you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
A simple post breath scene rescue cinematic would do the trick no gameplay required...........why is that so hard folks?
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:50
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:53
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Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:54
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crimzontearz wrote...
you misinterpreted the analogy, the players are not the mother they are just someone the devs (child) are apologizing to. If I passed an apology like that I know my mother would tell me "do it again and do it right"dreamgazer wrote...
crimzontearz wrote...
"we are sorry YOU did not feel the ending was up to par and it hurts us"
If you apologized like that for something you did wrong, as a child, what would your mother tell you?
Why are the players considered the parent(s) in this situation?
And should creators not stick to their guns?
Precisely, and you as a player are deeming the apology of the "child" (dev) inadequate, even though it's an adequate reflection of their position.
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:54
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davishepard wrote...
It was the same treatment that the other endings received, plus the additional breath scene already presented in the original high EMS Destroy, and I can assure you they not intended to make anyone feel insulted. You feeling insulted is only due to your own view of the matter.wright1978 wrote...
Nope High EMS destroy didn't receive an epilogue. it received an insult. Dropping the breath scene at the end like a piece of garbage whilst the lieks of control got shepalyst narration and memorial. Disgraceful.
Story-wise, it made perfect sense to have Hackett telling what happened after Shepard chose Destroy. As it did when Shepard IA himself/herself/itself did so in Control, and EDI in Synthesis.
No it wasn't the same treatment the other endings received. Other endings received exposition/closure high EMS received zilch. Other endings got memorial scene, high EMS got random squaddie pausing in middle of bizarre memorial scene which requires serious head canoning as to why on earth they'd be holding a memorial in the 1st place and if they were why random squaddie a was pausing in putting name up.
No it didn't make perfect sense. It would have made perfect sense for Shepherd to tell what happened post high-ems destroy, or have hackett refer to Shep surviving or show sheop being rescued. Something to provide the promised exposition and closure.
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the endings are not endings because the starman at the end tells you there is one more story (yes even after the EC and DLCs)Liamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:56
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This is like the 50 bajillionth topic you've made along these lines. Get this into your thick head; THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EXTRA CONTENT JUST FOR ONE ENDING. I hate using the phrase "Deal With It", but that's exactly what you need to do.
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Some people don't need to see things to understand they probably happened.
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then it is an unsincere apology, or not an apology at all.dreamgazer wrote...
crimzontearz wrote...
you misinterpreted the analogy, the players are not the mother they are just someone the devs (child) are apologizing to. If I passed an apology like that I know my mother would tell me "do it again and do it right"dreamgazer wrote...
crimzontearz wrote...
"we are sorry YOU did not feel the ending was up to par and it hurts us"
If you apologized like that for something you did wrong, as a child, what would your mother tell you?
Why are the players considered the parent(s) in this situation?
And should creators not stick to their guns?
Precisely, and you as a player are deeming the apology of the "child" (dev) inadequate, even though it's an adequate reflection of their position.
An apology should read "we are sorry we let you down"
otherwise just don't apologize at all and proceed to explain what apparently the players misunderstood (read retcon the ending as they did)
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 02:58
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Some people don't need to see things to understand they probably happened.
True, but some also need to have the balance of logic and interpretation leveled out to reach those assumptions.
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I am not, I am arguing about admitting faults not post ending contentLiamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
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I thaught that was for the DLCdorktainian wrote...
the endings are not endings because the starman at the end tells you there is one more story (yes even after the EC and DLCs)Liamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:00
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crimzontearz wrote...
I am not, I am arguing about admitting faults not post ending contentLiamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
Um i don't think i was talking about what you said
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whoops..my badLiamv2 wrote...
crimzontearz wrote...
I am not, I am arguing about admitting faults not post ending contentLiamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
Um i don't think i was talking about what you said
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:02
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Liamv2 wrote...
I thaught that was for the DLCdorktainian wrote...
the endings are not endings because the starman at the end tells you there is one more story (yes even after the EC and DLCs)Liamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
IT
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:02
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ME is a heroic fantasy. Unless the hero is clearly seen being killed, he or she is assumed to survive.dreamgazer wrote...
Mouton_Alpha wrote...
Some people don't need to see things to understand they probably happened.
True, but some also need to have the balance of logic and interpretation leveled out to reach those assumptions.
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:03
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time to go i think...knock yourselves out.
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pirate1802 wrote...
Liamv2 wrote...
I thaught that was for the DLCdorktainian wrote...
the endings are not endings because the starman at the end tells you there is one more story (yes even after the EC and DLCs)Liamv2 wrote...
Please don't try to make this thread into an ending argument all the endings are a validdorktainian wrote...
you see this is where people fall down by assuming that all the endings are different. there can only be one outcome / end to the game, despite all the choices you've made there must only be one ending. the end of the reaper threat. how you get there is not the end.Liamv2 wrote...
They won't make a DLC for just one ending
IT
Oh right IT
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dorktainian wrote...
the endings are not endings because the starman at the end tells you there is one more story (yes even after the EC and DLCs)
Yes and it could be story about brave Shepard defending Mindoir. Or Shepard desperately fighting with Tresher Maw on Yakuze. Or any of Shepards missions before Eden Prime.
He didn't say another story AFTER Shepard defeated Reapers.
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:06
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Mouton_Alpha wrote...
ME is a heroic fantasy. Unless the hero is clearly seen being killed, he or she is assumed to survive.dreamgazer wrote...
Mouton_Alpha wrote...
Some people don't need to see things to understand they probably happened.
True, but some also need to have the balance of logic and interpretation leveled out to reach those assumptions.
Ah, I see.
You can see where some people might have a problem with that.
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:11
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BD Manchild wrote...
This is like the 50 bajillionth topic you've made along these lines. Get this into your thick head; THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EXTRA CONTENT JUST FOR ONE ENDING. I hate using the phrase "Deal With It", but that's exactly what you need to do.
What does it matter to you what others deal with or not? Everyone has a right to express their opinions about the game. With these many topics on the topic clearly it's one of the most popular topics out there.....having been on BioWare forums since 2007(old forums) I have learned that what they say they will/not do becomes completely irrelevant if something is popular enough. Why don't you take your own advice and "Deal With It"?
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:15
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I finished the game twice recently and I am telling you now he does not get engulfed by the flames, juat pushed backdreamgazer wrote...
Mouton_Alpha wrote...
ME is a heroic fantasy. Unless the hero is clearly seen being killed, he or she is assumed to survive.dreamgazer wrote...
Mouton_Alpha wrote...
Some people don't need to see things to understand they probably happened.
True, but some also need to have the balance of logic and interpretation leveled out to reach those assumptions.
Ah, I see.
You can see where some people might have a problem with that.
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There are ways to realize an uplifting, Shepard focused epilogue for all endings.
I'd do it in one scene.
At the risk of sounding like a whiner, which is a label I do not mind in this instant, adding such scenes would only be a decent thing to do.
I'd do it in one scene.
At the risk of sounding like a whiner, which is a label I do not mind in this instant, adding such scenes would only be a decent thing to do.
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Posté 04 février 2013 - 03:17
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same here, been here since 08Darth_Trethon wrote...
BD Manchild wrote...
This is like the 50 bajillionth topic you've made along these lines. Get this into your thick head; THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EXTRA CONTENT JUST FOR ONE ENDING. I hate using the phrase "Deal With It", but that's exactly what you need to do.
What does it matter to you what others deal with or not? Everyone has a right to express their opinions about the game. With these many topics on the topic clearly it's one of the most popular topics out there.....having been on BioWare forums since 2007(old forums) I have learned that what they say they will/not do becomes completely irrelevant if something is popular enough. Why don't you take your own advice and "Deal With It"?
shall we talk about Garrus, Tali, NG+, geth weaponry, semi auto single shot assault rifles...just to name a few
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Is this stage 3 or 4?
Why does discussing the nature of the endings have to annotate any "stage" of anything?
