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[Althix]

yeah well Windows live have its impact on pvp in DS :S "phantom sword" effect.

as for screenshots with evil ea spy drones, that was fun.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 05 février 2013 - 08:40 .

[AlexJK]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I can't recall the last time I didn't want to run a game patched anyway. When have you found this advantageous

DAO.  Patch 1.02 nerfed spellcasting.  Until I had a mod to fix that, I didn't want patch 1.02.  Also, patch 1.03 made Lieutenant rank enemies unshatterable, which I think fundamentally alters the game.  And as a core mechanic change, this doesn't appear to be moddable, so I continue to play a modded 1.02 rather than patching to 1.03.

Furthermore, since 1.03 is mandatory to play Leliana's Song, Witch Hunt, and Awakening, being unable to rollback patches would mean that even installing one of those campaigns would prevent me from ever playing my preferred version of DAO again.

Also, a NWN2 patch removed friendly fire from enemies, fundamentally breaking difficulty levels above Normal.

The same happened in NWN, when a patch removed friendly fire from enemies, fundamentally breaking difficulty levels above Normal.

I continue to run all three games are a partly-patched level in order to maintain the gameplay mechanics I prefer.

Could we agree that the problem here isn't that services such as Origin and Steam keep your game updated, but that those updates can include undesirable feature changes instead of just bug fixes?

[Addai]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Best case scenario, Origin continues to improve (like Steam did) and even find a way to contribute something extra to digital purchasing of PC games that competitors like Steam and GamersGate have to adopt.

Steam is promoting PC modding and independent games.  I've played games I probably wouldn't have known about otherwise, and wouldn't have bought but for their sales.  What do you see Origin doing for customers and for gaming in general, apart from the nebulous goal of providing competition?  I'm asking seriously.

[CrazyRah]

If Origin do some massive progress before DA:I is released it's possible i'll get it. Had quite a few issues with Origin when ME3 was released and i'd prefer if that's avoidable. Not hating Origin i just wish it was better.. and cheaper.

[Kelgair]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

If the game isn't on Steam I probably won't get it. I'm sure as hell not installing EA's spyware program to play DA3.

This is hilarious for any of us who were around  when Steam first came out.  Mostly cause the exact same ignorace was lobbied at Steam. And the initial Steam service was terrible. Want to play Counter-Strike on steam? Haha! Not anytime soon!

Modifié par Kelgair, 05 février 2013 - 11:23 .

[JWvonGoethe]

I'd maybe be more prepared to put up with Origin if it didn't break its own Terms of Use contract - when purchasing an Origin game on Xbox, it states that DLC downloaded over the Xbox marketplace will be available for all users on that console. Which is a complete lie. That means I'd have to download Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC multiple times if I wanted to play that content on different profiles on the same console, which goes against Microsoft policy as well as Origins' own Usage Restrictions.

I recently wasted 2000 Microsoft Points because I purchased it with the wrong user profile - not usually a problem on Xbox Live, but with Origins it is. Of course I've got no chance of getting a refund.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 05 février 2013 - 11:27 .

[Wolfspawn]

I haven't had any problem with Origin directly, though they really should stiffen up security. My account was hacked not too long ago. (It's fine now.)

[Gnoster]

I have had no problem with Origins at all. It is just another game launcher with possibility to buy games, as a personal preference the UI could be a lot better and more intuitive, but that's it for me.

Only one time did I have a problem with buying a game, where it registered the wrong version of a game. A quick e-mail to the customer service sorted that out immediately, so good service there as well.

With regards to the scan of my harddisk and reporting back to EA as someone mentioned. This I have a huge issue with, but I do not judge Origins specifically on that. Companies gathering of personal data and using it for their own benefit is a huge problem in this day; Google has reserved the right to copy-paste all content you upload on their cloud drive, and Facebook have you relinquish all rights to everything you upload. The problem is way bigger than Origins scanning my harddive, and I for one am quite happy that the European Union is currently considering imposing laws against companies to prohibit them to do this without your specific consent (and that consent not being possible in a license agreement), hopefully this is something they'll implement sooner rather than later.

Modifié par Gnoster, 05 février 2013 - 11:41 .

[Paul E Dangerously]

JWvonGoethe wrote...

I'd maybe be more prepared to put up with Origin if it didn't break its own Terms of Use contract - when purchasing an Origin game on Xbox, it states that DLC downloaded over the Xbox marketplace will be available for all users on that console. Which is a complete lie. That means I'd have to download Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC multiple times if I wanted to play that content on different profiles on the same console, which goes against Microsoft policy as well as Origins' own Usage Restrictions.

I recently wasted 2000 Microsoft Points because I purchased it with the wrong user profile - not usually a problem on Xbox Live, but with Origins it is. Of course I've got no chance of getting a refund.

IIRC, this isn't an EA thing but a Microsoft thing. If the profile is on the Xbox it was originally created on, it and all other profiles can play the DLC. If it's been transferred to another Xbox (say if the original RRODs) it's locked to that profile only from now on.

[Kelgair]

JWvonGoethe wrote...

I'd maybe be more prepared to put up with Origin if it didn't break its own Terms of Use contract - when purchasing an Origin game on Xbox, it states that DLC downloaded over the Xbox marketplace will be available for all users on that console. Which is a complete lie. That means I'd have to download Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC multiple times if I wanted to play that content on different profiles on the same console, which goes against Microsoft policy as well as Origins' own Usage Restrictions.

I recently wasted 2000 Microsoft Points because I purchased it with the wrong user profile - not usually a problem on Xbox Live, but with Origins it is. Of course I've got no chance of getting a refund.

Different profiles on the same console? seriously? Different people pay for different access? Do you even look at your own posts?

[igneous.sponge]

I'd much rather Origin not be mandatory, myself. Though I don't feel it's spyware, I still find it an intrusive, obnoxious, and utterly unnecessary program. It's merely an unappealing storefront eating up more of my hard disk space.

I am resigned to the fact that all future BioWare releases will likely have the Origin requirement tacked on, however.

For the record, I'm not a Steam user either. GOG's is the only method of digital distribution I enjoy.

[JWvonGoethe]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

JWvonGoethe wrote...
I'd maybe be more prepared to put up with Origin if it didn't break its own Terms of Use contract - when purchasing an Origin game on Xbox, it states that DLC downloaded over the Xbox marketplace will be available for all users on that console. Which is a complete lie. That means I'd have to download Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC multiple times if I wanted to play that content on different profiles on the same console, which goes against Microsoft policy as well as Origins' own Usage Restrictions.
I recently wasted 2000 Microsoft Points because I purchased it with the wrong user profile - not usually a problem on Xbox Live, but with Origins it is. Of course I've got no chance of getting a refund.

IIRC, this isn't an EA thing but a Microsoft thing. If the profile is on the Xbox it was originally created on, it and all other profiles can play the DLC. If it's been transferred to another Xbox (say if the original RRODs) it's locked to that profile only from now on.

Nope - Origins DLC is accessible by only one user profile even on the first Xbox the DLC was downloaded to.

There is one very unusual exception - all users can access the DLC if and only if they all happen to have the exact same Origins account associated with each Xbox profile, which is pretty unlikely. So (and there is nothing to indicate this when purchasing DLC over the client) the "all users" part of the contract doesn't actually apply to all users - unless, that is, those users just so happen to have the same Origins accounts. Naturally, changing the Origins account of an Xbox user profile is virtually impossible (there is no offical way to do it - you have to exploit a bug and this can result in all your Origins data and content being deleted.)

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 05 février 2013 - 12:26 .

[JWvonGoethe]

Kelgair wrote...

JWvonGoethe wrote...
I'd maybe be more prepared to put up with Origin if it didn't break its own Terms of Use contract - when purchasing an Origin game on Xbox, it states that DLC downloaded over the Xbox marketplace will be available for all users on that console. Which is a complete lie. That means I'd have to download Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC multiple times if I wanted to play that content on different profiles on the same console, which goes against Microsoft policy as well as Origins' own Usage Restrictions.

I recently wasted 2000 Microsoft Points because I purchased it with the wrong user profile - not usually a problem on Xbox Live, but with Origins it is. Of course I've got no chance of getting a refund.

Different profiles on the same console? seriously? Different people pay for different access? Do you even look at your own posts?

No idea what you're getting at I'm afraid. If I download ME1 DLC, which doesn't use Origin, I can play it on all user profiles. If I download ME2 DLC, which does use Origin, I can't do this. This despite both games displaying the same Limits on Use description when purchasing which states that access to DLC "will be granted to all users on this first console."

Anyway, there's not much point ranting about it.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 05 février 2013 - 12:18 .

[mr_luga]

I just hate what EA is doing to gaming in general, and supporting a platform they use to just hinder modding and promote BS DLC is just sick.

Put it on origin if you must, but like you said, more options out now in the digital market, so why not put it on steam as well? Let gamers pick, EA is blackmailing PC gamers here

[Herr Uhl]

mr_luga wrote...

Put it on origin if you must, but like you said, more options out now in the digital market, so why not put it on steam as well? Let gamers pick, EA is blackmailing PC gamers here

Would the same be said about steam and every single valve game since HL2?

[Wulfram]

I don't find Origin useful or problematic. It's just there. Aside from that time it decided that updating itself was worth booting me out of ME3 multiplayer, which was just stupid.

It certainly hasn't got me to buy anything via the Origin store. Need to offer me better deals for that.

edit:  Also, I'm compelled to note that the cloud storage feature it offers might actually be useful if my save games didn't include 8mb screenshots for no good reason

Modifié par Wulfram, 05 février 2013 - 12:52 .

[Abraham_uk]

JasonPogo wrote...

 I'm just saying I don't want to have Origins on my computer.  Just make the game stand alone like the first two.  If Origins is required to play this game I will most likely pass it up.

What are you on about?

Origins was an amazing game.
I loved all 6 of the Origin stories.

The Dwalven ones were pretty spectular.
I also liked the City Elf (if you play as a woman).


I would love to have Origins in DA3.




Just kidding!
I know what you mean. You're talking about that program you have to download to play Bioware games.

Why don't you like the Origin?
I honestly don't get it.
I hardly notice Origin to be perfectly honest.

[mr_luga]

Herr Uhl wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Put it on origin if you must, but like you said, more options out now in the digital market, so why not put it on steam as well? Let gamers pick, EA is blackmailing PC gamers here

Would the same be said about steam and every single valve game since HL2?

If EA made like 1 game every 7 years I'd see your point. But EA is huge, they've devoured a bunch of developers, and they're forced to put their game on origin.

Valve isnt forcing other devs to put their game on steam

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I was anti-origin enough to pass on ME3 (and fel a bit smug when faced with all the ME3 ending posts).

Recently I ordered a new computer that I ended up returning. Before returning it I did install Origin just to see what all the fuss was.

To be honest, I didn't get it. I installed DA:O and DA2, and expected it to patch them. It didn't. I had no DLC downloaded for DA:O at all, and just the ones that DA2 does for you. What's the use? What advantages does this actually have? It's not even close to Steam in this regard.

[Abraham_uk]

Why do people dislike Origin?
Why do people love Steam?

Aren't they the same?

[mr_luga]

Abraham_uk wrote...

Why do people dislike Origin?
Why do people love Steam?

Aren't they the same?

The company behind them are not.

I just dont like where EA is bringing gaming, and I really dont like being forced using Origin

[Abraham_uk]

mr_luga wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Why do people dislike Origin?
Why do people love Steam?

Aren't they the same?

The company behind them are not.

I just dont like where EA is bringing gaming, and I really dont like being forced using Origin

Is that it?

I thought the reason would be a bit more elaborate considering how many pages of posts are devoted to this topic.

[mr_luga]

Abraham_uk wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Why do people dislike Origin?
Why do people love Steam?

Aren't they the same?

The company behind them are not.

I just dont like where EA is bringing gaming, and I really dont like being forced using Origin

Is that it?

I thought the reason would be a bit more elaborate considering how many pages of posts are devoted to this topic.

I'm not speaking for all gamers in the world man Just myself. Many people just blindly hate it which I think is silly

[SweQue]

ofc bioware has to pretend origin is anything but crap, but STEAM is superior in every way.

[Morlanwen]

I don't love steam. I like retailers who sold me a box, with my game in it, and a manual. I Like putting those boxes full of games on shelves, just in front of my eyes.
I don't love origin. I like to play the games I bought whenever I want to, even if I have no internet connection (I dislike steam for the same reasons mind you ).
You know, it's like when you buy a DVD .. and you see that disclaimer (blahblah copying this dvd is baaad blahblah). You put money in those DVD's or games and all you've got is annoyance.

-please, forgive my bad english-