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[Yate]

Turian Havoc

I just don't get it. Havoc strike is just a biotic charge that doesn't fill your shields, cryo blast is like the worst power in the world, especially considering that the class can't do tech bursts, stimulus pack is nice but the class just isn't tanky enough.

[IIFlash]

Stathis1992 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

1. Turian Saboteur, definitely.

2. Any and all volus kits (bar the VolEng maybe). The perspective, the weirdness of Shield Boost, general "support" play etc. Volus are awful and should be thrown out of the airlock.

Volus. Aren't. SUPPORT CHARACTERS. 

If you play any of the Volus like a walking Shield Pylon, you're doing it wrong. 

I don't plan to play them at all. Them and their awful powers can just stay in the never-deployed category.

How you know something is bad when you haven't even played it? Amazing logic.......

The same could be said of you and your Krogan Shaman thread, when according to your manifest you haven't played even 1 wave with him 

[ladyvader]

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

Demolisher!

Just because I hate camping!

Then don't camp with that kit.  Place the supply plyon in an area where you have easy assess to it and run/gun with it spamming homing/arc grenades and run from ammo dumps around the map.  With level V grenade gear mod you can carry 11 or it it 12?  No camping required.

I want to share the pylon not horde for myself. 

[ToLazy4Name]

ThelLastTruePatriot wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

ThelLastTruePatriot wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

1. Turian Saboteur, definitely.

2. Any and all volus kits (bar the VolEng maybe). The perspective, the weirdness of Shield Boost, general "support" play etc. Volus are awful and should be thrown out of the airlock.

Volus. Aren't. SUPPORT CHARACTERS. 

If you play any of the Volus like a walking Shield Pylon, you're doing it wrong. 

 I dunno, the volus adept doesn't seem to be good for anything except his shield...biotic orbs that can barely kill an unshielded mook?... stasis? Yeah if he isn't support I dunno what is. Sure you can run and gun with him with a good weapon in his hands, but that can be said of anybody. Issue though is the kit he has.

Volus Adept is a minitature Krogan with the ability to kill Phantoms with ease and make objectives easier. Slap a CQB weapon on him, run around and shoot stuff in the face while spamming Shield Boost. The invincibility frames from Shield Boost and his Heavy Melee make him nearly invulnerable unless stunlocked.

 Yeah so you're just spamming shield boost, which is my point, his kit is worthless without it. You may as well kill stuff faster by spamming shield boost near your team mates who will no doubt have better weapon passives and other skills to kill faster than the volus anyway.

You're missing my point. A Volus can literally walk up to whatever the hell it wants without worry of dying. They're friggin' invincible. Slap on a Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, or any other good CQB Weapon and they can easily keep up with the other classes in terms of damage, outside of obvious god classes like the GI and Ghost. 

You'd rather me sit around and spam Shield Boost near a Destroyer, or run around slaughtering stuff with a Reegar? 'Cause I guarrantee you one Destroyer can't put out the same damage as a Destroyer AND a Volus can. If you're sitting around spamming Shield Boost, you're not dishing out any damage. 

[Ryanatix]

Asari Justicar

[IIFlash]

kequilla wrote...

Striker93175 wrote...

Drellgaurd. Luv my Drelldept, love my Infidrell, I play drellgaurd and I on my arse 1/2 the match. I know some people can rock this kit, this kit rocks me

I have to admit. I came to this post looking for someone to say this.
Try w/o charge, using heavy loadout with pull maxed for recharge at end. Recharge at -106% is under 2 seconds letting me pack just about anything on that ninja while stealing mooks gravity.

Drellguard without charge:sick:

[brad2240]

Weakest of the kits I've played is the Volus Sentinel.

Good class that I can't play worth a crap? The GI. Infiltrators aren't my thing anyway and I'm not very good at handling squishy characters.

[RedLens37]

Geth Infiltrator. Because Hunter Mode.

I can only play the GI if I'm ok with being sick for a day.
Hunter Mode has to be the worst HUD design ever. I can play him just fine specced out of HM, but then what's the point?

[HolyAvenger]

IIFlash wrote...

kequilla wrote...

Striker93175 wrote...

Drellgaurd. Luv my Drelldept, love my Infidrell, I play drellgaurd and I on my arse 1/2 the match. I know some people can rock this kit, this kit rocks me

I have to admit. I came to this post looking for someone to say this.
Try w/o charge, using heavy loadout with pull maxed for recharge at end. Recharge at -106% is under 2 seconds letting me pack just about anything on that ninja while stealing mooks gravity.

Drellguard without charge:sick:

This is the post I was going to make.

Drellguard without charge? This hurts me

[ndw542]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I don't plan to play them at all. Them and their awful powers can just stay in the never-deployed category.

I'm not about to tell you you're wrong, because you're speaking to personal preference, but I will say that you might be surprised if you give it a try.  I'd never used the volus Vanguard even once until last night, and I found that I really enjoyed it.  

A friend begged us into playing Condor (my whole group of friends hate that map, although none as much as I) to finish off Nomad; I relented eventually, but told him I was going to take a level 8 Volguard just to spite him (mostly joking).  Took a scoped Talon and Incendiary Ammo I for FEs, and came within a couple K of topping the board.  The most hilarious thing about it was that right before the match, his wife was joking about how I'd probably end up loving it since I only used it out of spite.  She was right. 

[Alijah Green]

Certified G I can play any kit. Volus is a beast

[IIFlash]

Nissun wrote...
The Volus mercenary has three powers:

-Combat drone
-Decoy
-Shield boost

Which means that he doesn't have any reliable damage-dealing powers. The drone ranks only a "decent" in damage output, while the Decoy is nearly useless against anything that isn't the geth.

This of course means that you depend on the weapon you carry to deal damage. The problem is that, if you carry a weapon that is a little too heavy, you cripple shield boost's recharge, and that reduces your survival odds.


So yeah, the Volus Mercenary wins the "poorest kit" contest, on the basis that he is the only character that lacks any direct offensive power at all.

^This^ IMO also the Volus Mercenary is the weakest kit.
Honorable mention goes to Salarian Engineer, let's face it he doesn't have much going for him anymore.

[Silvershroud]

Well, I know they are good, but I just can't get the hang of playing the Demolisher or Geth Infiltrator effectively. Other than that, just the Shadow, but that is mostly because I find it too boring to bother playing with enough to get good with it.

[FlowCytometry]

IIFlash wrote...

Nissun wrote...
The Volus mercenary has three powers:

-Combat drone
-Decoy
-Shield boost

Which means that he doesn't have any reliable damage-dealing powers. The drone ranks only a "decent" in damage output, while the Decoy is nearly useless against anything that isn't the geth.

This of course means that you depend on the weapon you carry to deal damage. The problem is that, if you carry a weapon that is a little too heavy, you cripple shield boost's recharge, and that reduces your survival odds.


So yeah, the Volus Mercenary wins the "poorest kit" contest, on the basis that he is the only character that lacks any direct offensive power at all.

^This^ IMO also the Volus Mercenary is the weakest kit.
Honorable mention goes to Salarian Engineer, let's face it he doesn't have much going for him anymore.

Eh, I'll take the SE over the VHE or Sabo, tbh- ED is still great and Incin allows for combos on targets ya can drain. VHE and Batsent wouldn't be so bad if Subnet had a base radius or it wasn't as easily dodged- at least w/ the Batsent I can make a tankier weapons user, ignore subnet, and detonate ammo powers_stagger w/ SW, and he can at least reduce his armor's 60% cd penalty otherwise.. unlike the VHE.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 05 février 2013 - 03:03 .

[ndw542]

IIFlash wrote...

Honorable mention goes to Salarian Engineer, let's face it he doesn't have much going for him anymore.

It continues to mystify me that so many people hold this view.  The Paladin is considered among the better classes in the game, and he's just the SE with a gimmick shield and Snap Freeze in place of Decoy.  Everyone hates the Decoy nerf and it's generally agreed to have been too severe, but it didn't render the SE into trash-tier.  He's easily still among the best against geth, and better than serviceable generally. 

[Nissun]

ndw542 wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

Honorable mention goes to Salarian Engineer, let's face it he doesn't have much going for him anymore.

It continues to mystify me that so many people hold this view.  The Paladin is considered among the better classes in the game, and he's just the SE with a gimmick shield and Snap Freeze in place of Decoy.  Everyone hates the Decoy nerf and it's generally agreed to have been too severe, but it didn't render the SE into trash-tier.  He's easily still among the best against geth, and better than serviceable generally. 

This.

[lazysundae]

HolyAvenger wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

kequilla wrote...

Striker93175 wrote...

Drellgaurd. Luv my Drelldept, love my Infidrell, I play drellgaurd and I on my arse 1/2 the match. I know some people can rock this kit, this kit rocks me

I have to admit. I came to this post looking for someone to say this.
Try w/o charge, using heavy loadout with pull maxed for recharge at end. Recharge at -106% is under 2 seconds letting me pack just about anything on that ninja while stealing mooks gravity.

Drellguard without charge:sick:

This is the post I was going to make.

Drellguard without charge? This hurts me

Last night I saw a Cluster Grenade-less Drellguard, that only charged when the planets were aligned in very specific ways.

I cried.

[HolyAvenger]

ndw542 wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

Honorable mention goes to Salarian Engineer, let's face it he doesn't have much going for him anymore.

It continues to mystify me that so many people hold this view.  The Paladin is considered among the better classes in the game, and he's just the SE with a gimmick shield and Snap Freeze in place of Decoy.  Everyone hates the Decoy nerf and it's generally agreed to have been too severe, but it didn't render the SE into trash-tier.  He's easily still among the best against geth, and better than serviceable generally. 

Snap Freeze is an insanely good, god-tier power.

SE is underrated though, I'll agree. He's not much of a power spammer, so I'd play him with a heavier harder-hitting weapon. Claymore or the like.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Shadow, because the only way to play her safe and be efficient is like almost all shotgun Infiltrators.

[lazysundae]

To answer the question;

1: Worst kit: Turian Saboteur. This kit makes me feel utterly useless. Not even slow - USELESS.

2: Kits I just suck with: Paladin and Kroguard. Yes, I KNOW. I never figured out how to use the Paladin (even though everyone else I know wrecks face with him) and I feel slow and like I'm not getting a lot done w/ Kroguard. The people that say "it's impossible to die as Kroguard" - yeah I have something to show you.

[Dasher1010]

Vorcha Engineer. I can't play him for the life of me.

[Hausner85]

1.Qurian Female Engineer
2.Volus Mercenary
3.Turian Saboteur

No synergy in them

[brazen_nl]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

 Two questions: 

1. Which character do you believe is the weakest in the game? 

2. Which character can you just not seem to get the hang of, even though you KNOW it can wreck stuff when played by a skilled individual?

I believe the Vorcha Hunter or the Turian Saboteur are the weakest kits in the game. 

I pride myself on being able to (And frequently) playing all of the characters in the game, but if I had to say there's one i'm weaker with than the rest, it'd be the FQE. 

1. Volus Adept

2. Anything that snipes. 

[JacensGame]

Weakest kit. Volus merc.

The one I'm terrible with is any infiltrator. I just cant get a good rhythm with them.