Memorial MP Service for Robin Sachs (Voice of Zaeed Massani)
#176
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:06
#177
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:08
#178
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:12
cowwy wrote...
First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time
He opened himself to criticism when he decided to be a critic. Even worse, being a critic in a memorial thread. This thread was for Robin Sachs. Zaeed is just how most people will relate to Sachs. Kira brought this on himself, and he and his crappy teen angst prose deserved everything he got here. You're not allowed to criticise, yet be above criticism yourself. That would be bad enough in a character discussion thread, let alone a damn memorial thread.
Modifié par Distilled Poison, 05 février 2013 - 09:15 .
#179
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:14
Pretty much this.Distilled Poison wrote...
cowwy wrote...
First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time
He opened himself to criticism when he decided to be a critic. Even worse, being a critic in a memorial thread. This thread was for Robin Sachs. Zaeed is just how most people will relate to Sachs. Kira brought this on himself, and deserved everything he got here. You're not allowed to criticise, yet be above criticism yourself. That would be bad enough in a character discussion thread, let alone a damn memorial thread.
#180
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:15
Mr Cloud wrote...
But calling him heartless, cold-hearted is really out of place. Children, men, women die by thousands in Africa due to famine. Do you grieve them? Do you find time during a day to reflect upon this? No. So don't you dare calling him that way. It's inappropriate.
Not only do I grieve them, I donate to them.
Do you?
#181
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:15
#182
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:19
cowwy wrote...
I'm not going to defend Kira, but I have two issues with this thread. First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time and are "honoring Robin's memory" by essentially stalking Kira to find something to make fun of him for, when he at least is putting his work out there. And second, people need to work on reading comprehension and learning what certain words mean, because frankly put, they're doing it wrong.
And again, I don't agree with Kira, if you feel connected to Robin in some way you should absolutely celebrate his memory, but I'm a little annoyed with the arrogance of some people in this thread.
The poetry deal was actually mildly relevant. Kira, after saying what he did, said that he could write better characters than BioWare wrote Zaeed (IIRC he even said he has). So they pulled up his poetry to see if Kira really was capable of writing better.
Just to make sure you know, I'm not attacking you or anything. It just seems like you might have skipped a few pages, which I do all the time.
#183
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:20
Gedgehog wrote...
Back to topic guys.
You're right. I'm gonna apologize on everyone's behalf that we let things get this far out of hand.
Robin Sachs will be missed. He did a goddamned fine job of voicing that filthy bastard.
#184
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:21
I think we all can agree on a mutual no, but yes, back on topic. I will miss his work. He was damn good as Zaeed.DullahansXMark wrote...
cowwy wrote...
I'm not going to defend Kira, but I have two issues with this thread. First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time and are "honoring Robin's memory" by essentially stalking Kira to find something to make fun of him for, when he at least is putting his work out there. And second, people need to work on reading comprehension and learning what certain words mean, because frankly put, they're doing it wrong.
And again, I don't agree with Kira, if you feel connected to Robin in some way you should absolutely celebrate his memory, but I'm a little annoyed with the arrogance of some people in this thread.
The poetry deal was actually mildly relevant. Kira, after saying what he did, said that he could write better characters than BioWare wrote Zaeed (IIRC he even said he has). So they pulled up his poetry to see if Kira really was capable of writing better.
Just to make sure you know, I'm not attacking you or anything. It just seems like you might have skipped a few pages, which I do all the time.
Modifié par TheCandlejack, 05 février 2013 - 09:22 .
#185
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:24
#186
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:25
Distilled Poison wrote...
cowwy wrote...
First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time
He opened himself to criticism when he decided to be a critic. Even worse, being a critic in a memorial thread. This thread was for Robin Sachs. Zaeed is just how most people will relate to Sachs. Kira brought this on himself, and deserved everything he got here. You're not allowed to criticise, yet be above criticism yourself. That would be bad enough in a character discussion thread, let alone a damn memorial thread.
His posts were inflammatory, but at some point you have to stop and think about what you're doing.
What people did when they went looking for his poetry was just looking for ammunition to pile on to him. At some point even if he was being a troll you have to look at yourself as the problem. But this is completely justified, right?
The mob mentality of the internet is always amazing to me. So easy to hide bullying under the guise of "retribution".
#187
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:26
#188
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:27
#189
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:30
Also did a lot of VO work for Dragon Age.
#190
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:32
KiraTsukasa wrote...
Meh. Zaeed was a boring character. If I wanted some guy being a jerk just for revenge, I'd go watch Naruto.
#191
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:32
MisterEFQ wrote...
Mr Cloud wrote...
But calling him heartless, cold-hearted is really out of place. Children, men, women die by thousands in Africa due to famine. Do you grieve them? Do you find time during a day to reflect upon this? No. So don't you dare calling him that way. It's inappropriate.
Not only do I grieve them, I donate to them.
Do you?
Nope. And I don't grieve them most of the time. And I'm fine by that. Will you insult me now as you did Kira?
#192
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:34
He surely will be missed.
#193
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:35
#194
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:35
cowwy wrote...
Distilled Poison wrote...
cowwy wrote...
First of all attacking him for his poetry is just pathetic, it just shows to me that those offenders have nothing better to do with their time
He opened himself to criticism when he decided to be a critic. Even worse, being a critic in a memorial thread. This thread was for Robin Sachs. Zaeed is just how most people will relate to Sachs. Kira brought this on himself, and deserved everything he got here. You're not allowed to criticise, yet be above criticism yourself. That would be bad enough in a character discussion thread, let alone a damn memorial thread.
His posts were inflammatory, but at some point you have to stop and think about what you're doing.
What people did when they went looking for his poetry was just looking for ammunition to pile on to him. At some point even if he was being a troll you have to look at yourself as the problem. But this is completely justified, right?
The mob mentality of the internet is always amazing to me. So easy to hide bullying under the guise of "retribution".
If you want to sit there and knock somebodies writing, you are open game to have yours knocked.
He claimed to be able to write a better character, I just provided a bit of context.
Then again you are just trying to start another mob.
And please don't use the word "stalking" willy nilly. It is an insult to people who have been really stalked. I did a single google search to a site that he said he goes to. That is nowhere near "essentially stalking".
#195
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:36
Mr Cloud wrote...
MisterEFQ wrote...
Mr Cloud wrote...
But calling him heartless, cold-hearted is really out of place. Children, men, women die by thousands in Africa due to famine. Do you grieve them? Do you find time during a day to reflect upon this? No. So don't you dare calling him that way. It's inappropriate.
Not only do I grieve them, I donate to them.
Do you?
Nope. And I don't grieve them most of the time. And I'm fine by that. Will you insult me now as you did Kira?
You have already insulted me once and I didn't. So nope.
#196
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:37
Zaeed is still kicking ass in his own memorial thread.Mendelevosa wrote...
KiraTsukasa wrote...
Meh. Zaeed was a boring character. If I wanted some guy being a jerk just for revenge, I'd go watch Naruto.
#197
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:38
Depressing indeed, especially if certain details about how his remains were found hold true. Rest in peace, Mr Sachs.
Will see how well Massani's colour-scheme can be implemented in MP later on...
#198
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:41
#199
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:47
Mendelevosa wrote...
Man I wish he had put on some 22nd century shades.
#200
Posté 05 février 2013 - 09:47
MisterEFQ wrote...
Mr Cloud wrote...
MisterEFQ wrote...
Mr Cloud wrote...
But calling him heartless, cold-hearted is really out of place. Children, men, women die by thousands in Africa due to famine. Do you grieve them? Do you find time during a day to reflect upon this? No. So don't you dare calling him that way. It's inappropriate.
Not only do I grieve them, I donate to them.
Do you?
Nope. And I don't grieve them most of the time. And I'm fine by that. Will you insult me now as you did Kira?
You have already insulted me once and I didn't. So nope.
I haven't. In fact I even doubt that you really grieve them every day. I doubt you grieve everyone's deaths you heard of. But it's not for me to judge. You may say you donate them, but does it mean that you actually do? No. Everything is easy to say through internet.
And it's actually funny that you go from fierce insulting Kira to sensitive, insulted self.





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