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#51
Chi_Mangetsu

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Have people never tried it with a combo caster like the Female Quarian Engineer? It's a freakin' boss and a half.

(Having said that, it's a tragedy we don't have a P90 expy in this game. Unless the Locust is supposed to be a Frankenstein's monster between that and I guess an MP5, then it's still a tragedy.)

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Put the scope on it and use it on a Turian Sentinel, land headshots. Carry a light pistol as well and boom, caster build. As good as most pistols, better than any assault rifle except the Harrier of course. Unless of course you're playing on a console; I have many times heard of console players' inability to compensate for recoil.
The Hurricane is superior for obvious reasons, but honestly, to claim the Shuriken and Locust can even pretend to be better than the Hornet? Really?
I have yet to try the Collector SMG. Hopefully it's good.

Modifié par Variasaber, 06 février 2013 - 02:21 .


#53
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Locust is actually provably better, at least for headshots (x3 vs. x2.5). Sorry, bub.

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Consider how much it can do with in the hands of cerberus troops the one we get is certainly under powered.

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Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Locust is actually provably better, at least for headshots (x3 vs. x2.5). Sorry, bub.

Ah, but you must consider base damage as well. If the two had the same base damage, you'd be right, but they don't.

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Cerberus gets the Hornet XXXIV that's why they're so badass.

#57
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There are only 2 SMG's i like in this game 1) CSMG and 2) Hurricane. Those are the only 2 i can take into a Gold or Platinum match. The rest barely scrape through silver.

Can't wait until they release BP Punisher. We'll finally have another useful SMG to play with!

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Variasaber wrote...

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Locust is actually provably better, at least for headshots (x3 vs. x2.5). Sorry, bub.

Ah, but you must consider base damage as well. If the two had the same base damage, you'd be right, but they don't.

Mitigated by muzzle-jump competence, of course.

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But I can kill things with it with headshots!!!!!! /sarcasm

Seriously, they need to release some kind of DLC very soon, because BSN is pretty much a broken record right now.

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Chi_Mangetsu

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lol k

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Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Variasaber wrote...

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Locust is actually provably better, at least for headshots (x3 vs. x2.5). Sorry, bub.

Ah, but you must consider base damage as well. If the two had the same base damage, you'd be right, but they don't.

Mitigated by muzzle-jump competence, of course.

The Hornet's muzzle climb is no issue at all if you use the recoil compensator mod or put it on a Turian. The Hornet shines when you can land consistent headshots.

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Look the Hornet is a terrible gun compared to the Javelin ok

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Michaelxdrift

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guns garbage. looks cool. Should have been uncommon

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Variasaber wrote...

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Variasaber wrote...

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Locust is actually provably better, at least for headshots (x3 vs. x2.5). Sorry, bub.

Ah, but you must consider base damage as well. If the two had the same base damage, you'd be right, but they don't.

Mitigated by muzzle-jump competence, of course.

The Hornet's muzzle climb is no issue at all if you use the recoil compensator mod or put it on a Turian. The Hornet shines when you can land consistent headshots.

Or if you know what the hell you're doing.

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Its a burst fire SMG. Also what i like to call a "speciality gun" and if you dont know what that is your probally just using it wrong. Its a weapon meant for casters so naturally its not gonna pack a
whole lotta punch to begin with but on top of that i can honestly say that its more of a side arm then
a main weapon, when it comes to a weapon build.

So if your using it on a destroyer (Gold/Plat.) as your main gun well you shouldnt and you should be ashamed of yourself and you probally shouldnt even be playing this game to begin with.
Not saying you cant make it work but if you come on here after and complain about it, then
its about time you stopped eating the noob-cake.

You use it on casters and you ***shoot troops in the face*** with it, anything outside of this and you may find yourself posting a needless complaint about the gun. What you said about the headshot damage on gold is way off your probally missing or using some crap build with the gun.
Fact is your doing it wrong because i know what that gun can do to a normal troops head on gold.

Seriously its getting old ppl need to stop complaining about a gun just because you dont know how to use it properly and dont tell me you do cause if you did you wouldnt be on here complaining about it and i wouldnt be here telling you other wise. But instead your gonna come in here and make yourself look like a noob who cant even make good use of a simple weapon like the hornet.

Every gun isnt meant to be perfect which im sure youll say something along the lines of i know that but yet here you are posting the complete opposite.

Lastly you didnt even really explain whats wrong with the gun except for the damage.
So for all i know your crying about the damage cause it cant drop an atlas like a hurricane.
Which its not meant to as im sure your aware.

So key word here is: "Burst-Fire SMG"
Learn it, Understand it, Respect it.

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^^ amen brotha. Just what I said. With less words too. :P If it ain't a Claymore, it's crap to half this place. Area reave, run in, face shot...next!   Of course a little trickier, but doable at higher difficulties.

Modifié par GallowsPole, 06 février 2013 - 04:44 .


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Dunvi wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

The Hornet floats like a butterfly and sting like a bee.


<3

In all seriousness, while I'll defend the Hornet as not as terrible as it seems, it could use a damage buff.


It is not as bad as people here make it out to be. As long as you can control recoil, it gets the job done on mooks.  Don't bother killing bosses with it. 

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It was the 2nd best SMG way back when... It was crap back then too.

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With an SMG rail III, stability mods/gear/abilities, and special ammo, it is quite viable and effective as a primary on a weapons class on gold.

As a shinies hoarder, I don't like it very much, but it can be useful if you're willing to spend consumables. However, the tempest, locust, and GSMG can also be made gold primary-viable (to varying degrees of effectiveness) with the same consumables, and don't wear down my controller as much in the process.

All in all, there are just too many other guns I would take over the hornet. I enjoy using pistols considerably more than SMGs in general, though.

Modifié par Yosuke, 06 février 2013 - 06:06 .


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I used to hate it but i dont mind it as long as its on a class i can spam powers on.

its not fun on a weapons based class at all IMO.

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It's a garbage gun. Not accurate enough and too much recoil for its damage. Burst-fire means it cannot benefit from RoF bonuses as well. I'll take tempest over it any day.

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Flambrose wrote...

It's a garbage gun. Not accurate enough and too much recoil for its damage. Burst-fire means it cannot benefit from RoF bonuses as well. I'll take tempest over it any day.

Learn to land headshots, and recoil compensate and/or use a Turian and/or use a recoil damper mod.

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It's like riding a horse 50 miles to work when you have a car in the garage.

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^^ You can say that all you want, but with the same amount of effort a Hurricane I or CSMG will always outclass it.

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xtorma wrote...

It's like riding a horse 50 miles to work when you have a car in the garage.

That sounds classy as hell.

Flambrose wrote...

^^ You can say that all you want, but with the same amount of effort a Hurricane I or CSMG will always outclass it.

As for the Hurricane, not in terms of weight.
I can't speak for the CSMG though, I haven't unlocked it yet.