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[MaxShine]

Hornet has nothing that it can do better than another gun... That I would call useless And why does it fire in bursts and the zoom recoil is still ridiculous?? The burst mechanic should actually reduce the recoil. So if they removed the terrible zoom recoil the hornet would start making sense...

[GallowsPole]

Lol. I remember when everyone was unlocking this gun and it was must have. People rocking Gold with it. Etc etc. Now it's trash.

That's the problem with using high dps kits and weapons all the time. Damn, people used to be able to play this game back in the day.

[HolyAvenger]

GallowsPole wrote...

Lol. I remember when everyone was unlocking this gun and it was must have. People rocking Gold with it. Etc etc. Now it's trash.

That's the problem with using high dps kits and weapons all the time. Damn, people used to be able to play this game back in the day.

Well duh the metagame evolves. The Asari Adept with a Carnifex is no longer the most OP set up in the game


I hated this gun back when it first came out and I unlocked it, FWIW. It was terrible then and is terrible now.

[GallowsPole]

HolyAvenger wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Lol. I remember when everyone was unlocking this gun and it was must have. People rocking Gold with it. Etc etc. Now it's trash.

That's the problem with using high dps kits and weapons all the time. Damn, people used to be able to play this game back in the day.

Well duh the metagame evolves. The Asari Adept with a Carnifex is no longer the most OP set up in the game


I hated this gun back when it first came out and I unlocked it, FWIW. It was terrible then and is terrible now.

I find it funny, then, the GI still outclasses everything no matter what it carries.

[Tonymac]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

It really is garbage. But that won't stop fanboys defending it and accusing you of being bad for thinking an objectively bad weapon is bad.

^  This

[HolyAvenger]

GallowsPole wrote...

I find it funny, then, the GI still outclasses everything no matter what it carries.

An unfortunate side-effect of the powerset it was given.

[DAN1EL86]

The hornet is bad. I would rather use a shuriken.

[taplonaplo]

None of the guns are really terribad, players on the other hand...

[IxMerc04]

As bad as the hornet is, which is bad it is still better than the shuriken by a large margin. it does need more damage badly to be considered decent.

[GallowsPole]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

I find it funny, then, the GI still outclasses everything no matter what it carries.

 

Right, because a GI with a Shuriken definitely outclasses a Drellguard, Drell Adept, Batsol, Destroyer etc. 

Sorry. Forgot I had to spell things out for you. See, Mr. Avenger commented on how the metagame changed and I was simply saying that the GI hasnt changed like, at all. I apologize for "no matter what it carries" and you got confused.

[megabeast37215]

IxMerc04 wrote...

As bad as the hornet is, which is bad it is still better than the shuriken by a large margin. it does need more damage badly to be considered decent.

We would know

[SavagelyEpic]

jancz89 wrote...

it's fine on bronze and silver

That's because you just melee everything on bronze and silver...

[GallowsPole]

The only thing that makes it terrible today is the introduction of all this other crap. The gun itself hasnt changed at all. The factions (not including the Collectors), have changed very little to make this gun obsolete. If you were able to wield it 10 months ago and be successful, there is no reason you cant carry it today and be successful. Is it the best weapon? Nope. The most effective weapon? Nope When you compare it to the rest, sure, I guess one could say its terrible. At the time, compared to the weapons you did have, it didnt suck. Everything is relative.

How many peeps were rocking Drells? Yeah. Hardly any. Too squishy. Everyone complained. Now that you got gear up the ass and the ability to carry 100's of grenades, it just cant be beat.

Modifié par GallowsPole, 06 février 2013 - 12:25 .

[stysiaq]

I love it, did 200k challenge twice.

[HolyAvenger]

stysiaq wrote...

I love it, did 200k challenge twice.

You mad Polish volus you.

[Dracian]

Not my favorite SMG, but still a decent one.

[Chi_Mangetsu]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

The burst mechanic should actually reduce the recoil.

Something tells me someone doesn't know how muzzle climb irl works. Or at least has never heard of a Mauser C96 which is pretty obviously what the Hornet was designed to function like. Similar to the Vindicator or *sigh* Halo's BR, aiming for center of mass can score reliable headshots. The Hornet's biggest problem is that it's suffering from power creep and has been untouched since release. I wonder though, do enemies get the same boosts to their weapons that we receive intermittently to our versions of the weapons? If so, that might explain part of the problem right there. I'm loathe to call any gun bad, since you can make any gun effective if you know what you're doing, and I think the power tiers people bicker about endlessly are just ridiculous. As good of weapons the Harrier and Indra are, I just don't find locking my hip to the nearest ammo cache to be an enjoyable method of play. I do, however, enjoy taking weapons people constantly p!as on and stomp the yard with them. You can say a weapon is terribad with casters because the gun isn't really the point, but when I can use my Hornet to shatter a group of Cannibals instead of using Incinerate, saving that for the Brute around the corner, I sure as hell will use my Mauser-expy to do clean-up. Sure you can say it's garbage for not being a straight up bullet hose, but it really just makes you a great big singing **** that would make Cronenberg and Burroughs both blush.

[Someone With Mass]

GAMEofDEATH-PS3 wrote...

Its a burst fire SMG. Also what i like to call a "speciality gun" and if you dont know what that is your probally just using it wrong. Its a weapon meant for casters so naturally its not gonna pack a
whole lotta punch to begin with but on top of that i can honestly say that its more of a side arm then
a main weapon, when it comes to a weapon build.

So if your using it on a destroyer (Gold/Plat.) as your main gun well you shouldnt and you should be ashamed of yourself and you probally shouldnt even be playing this game to begin with.
Not saying you cant make it work but if you come on here after and complain about it, then
its about time you stopped eating the noob-cake.

You use it on casters and you ***shoot troops in the face*** with it, anything outside of this and you may find yourself posting a needless complaint about the gun. What you said about the headshot damage on gold is way off your probally missing or using some crap build with the gun.
Fact is your doing it wrong because i know what that gun can do to a normal troops head on gold.

Seriously its getting old ppl need to stop complaining about a gun just because you dont know how to use it properly and dont tell me you do cause if you did you wouldnt be on here complaining about it and i wouldnt be here telling you other wise. But instead your gonna come in here and make yourself look like a noob who cant even make good use of a simple weapon like the hornet.

Every gun isnt meant to be perfect which im sure youll say something along the lines of i know that but yet here you are posting the complete opposite.

Lastly you didnt even really explain whats wrong with the gun except for the damage.
So for all i know your crying about the damage cause it cant drop an atlas like a hurricane.
Which its not meant to as im sure your aware.

So key word here is: "Burst-Fire SMG"
Learn it, Understand it, Respect it.

Okay, but then the gun is even more worthless as a Gold weapon, because I can get the whole "not-meant-for-killing-stuff caster weapon" style with a Predator, a Shuriken or any weapon that is compatible with the ultra-light mod.

Same goes with the headshot damage. Anything can be made good for headshots.

The amount of bullets it takes to kill anything above Silver with it is so high that it could might as well been a full-auto weapon. Even the rate of fire required to kill anything efficiently is high enough that it wouldn't have been that much of a difference.

Not to mention that Cerberus is using it as a main weapon and it works just fine for them, yet when I use it, it feels as if I could get more damage done if I threw the damn thing at the enemy instead.

I learned it, I understand it, but I sure as hell won't respect it.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 06 février 2013 - 02:19 .

[Spartanburger]

I'd just like to pop in here and say that I agree with the OP in many points.

In fact, the only SMG's that I consider worse than the Hornet (and I have them all at X aside from CSMG which is at I) is the CSMG and the shuriken (and the shuriken is not that bad in comparison. Feels better to use than the Hornet at least).

I do far better with the locust than the Hornet.

[twiffer]

don't really care about the gun, but can we please stop saying "terribad"? please? it's a ****ing stupid neologism.

[Chi_Mangetsu]

It's not so much a neologism as it is a portmanteau.

[AustereLemur799]

I never used it before trying to complete the new challenge system thing. It's really not so bad - it's better than the Eagle, right? It can actually kill more than swarmers. But yeah, I'd advise putting a recoil mod or a stabilisation bonus on it in addition to SMG amps. It's fine on Gold but I wouldn't take it on Platinum.