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[jancz89]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

jancz89 wrote...

it's fine on bronze and silver

That's because you just melee everything on bronze and silver...

nope I shoot things with it

[MaxShine]

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

The burst mechanic should actually reduce the recoil.

Something tells me someone doesn't know how muzzle climb irl works. Or at least has never heard of a Mauser C96 which is pretty obviously what the Hornet was designed to function like. Similar to the Vindicator or *sigh* Halo's BR, aiming for center of mass can score reliable headshots. The Hornet's biggest problem is that it's suffering from power creep and has been untouched since release. I wonder though, do enemies get the same boosts to their weapons that we receive intermittently to our versions of the weapons? If so, that might explain part of the problem right there. I'm loathe to call any gun bad, since you can make any gun effective if you know what you're doing, and I think the power tiers people bicker about endlessly are just ridiculous. As good of weapons the Harrier and Indra are, I just don't find locking my hip to the nearest ammo cache to be an enjoyable method of play. I do, however, enjoy taking weapons people constantly p!as on and stomp the yard with them. You can say a weapon is terribad with casters because the gun isn't really the point, but when I can use my Hornet to shatter a group of Cannibals instead of using Incinerate, saving that for the Brute around the corner, I sure as hell will use my Mauser-expy to do clean-up. Sure you can say it's garbage for not being a straight up bullet hose, but it really just makes you a great big singing **** that would make Cronenberg and Burroughs both blush.

It is garbage

[TheThirdRace]

I'm an Adept player, I play Adepts 90% of the time and do so using powers as primary damage and slaping the Acolyte as my only gun. I never played any shooter before, my reflexes are bad, I'm over 30 so I don't adapt as easily as a young wolf and I suck big time with headshots. Just to illustrate how much I suck with guns, I brought up the HUD to align my shots 95% of the time in ME1, 75% in ME2 and about 50% in ME3 SP. All that on PC, with a mouse... That's bad, really bad...

With that said, I needed the Hornet for the Challenge, so I used it on the Geth Infiltrator against Geth on Gold... And I still got 60% of the total score, the 3 other guys were just decoys at that point. While no where near as efficient as the Hurricane, the CSMG or the Locust (sorry never used the basic smg), it still got the job done without too much hassle.

What I'm trying to say is that while the gun isn't very good, it isn't "terribad" either. I would love to see a damage boost for sure and a reduced recoil, but that gun can be used with decent results on Gold. And coming from me, I'd say it means that if you can't make it work on Gold, you are the one who's "terribad".

Modifié par TheThirdRace, 06 février 2013 - 03:15 .

[Scalabrine]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

The Hornet floats like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

A retarded bee that thinks it's a ladybug...

[xtorma]

GallowsPole wrote...

The only thing that makes it terrible today is the introduction of all this other crap. The gun itself hasnt changed at all. The factions (not including the Collectors), have changed very little to make this gun obsolete. If you were able to wield it 10 months ago and be successful, there is no reason you cant carry it today and be successful. Is it the best weapon? Nope. The most effective weapon? Nope When you compare it to the rest, sure, I guess one could say its terrible. At the time, compared to the weapons you did have, it didnt suck. Everything is relative.

How many peeps were rocking Drells? Yeah. Hardly any. Too squishy. Everyone complained. Now that you got gear up the ass and the ability to carry 100's of grenades, it just cant be beat.

Drell adept/asari adept were the go to classes for speed runs in the day. Lots of folks were rocking the drell.

[Chi_Mangetsu]

@Scalabrine:

Clearly you don't know enough about insects to realize that that's actually a compliment.

[Muhkida]

GallowsPole wrote...

Lol. I remember when everyone was unlocking this gun and it was must have. People rocking Gold with it. Etc etc. Now it's trash.

That's the problem with using high dps kits and weapons all the time. Damn, people used to be able to play this game back in the day.

I thought the Hornet was trash back then too....."when people used to be able to play this game back in the day."

[Barge6000]

70% (idk lol?) of weapons in this game are terrible and should not be used other than for goofing

[Hyperglide]

twiffer wrote...

don't really care about the gun, but can we please stop saying "terribad"? please? it's a ****ing stupid neologism.

Okay they'll just go with the OG saying Horri-awful.

[Supremocognito]

The hornet is not bad it just takes alot off practice to get the hang of it. Always hip fire with it and use the damage barrel or both capacity mods. Stability mod is pointless since it's more accurate to hip fire, then aim down the sights. The hornet rewards people with a fast trigger finger. I use it on gold all the time.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

it's so bad i use it on gold and win... definitely garbage and needs a buff, much like most peoples hand-eye coordination

[Scalabrine]

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

@Scalabrine:

Clearly you don't know enough about insects to realize that that's actually a compliment.

I aint no entomologist...aint nobody got time fo that!

[mybudgee]

I agree; Hornet sucks

[Dasher1010]

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

it's so bad i use it on gold and win... definitely garbage and needs a buff, much like most peoples hand-eye coordination

I do too. The only gun I can't seem to use on Gold is the Krysae.

[SavagelyEpic]

jancz89 wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

jancz89 wrote...

it's fine on bronze and silver

That's because you just melee everything on bronze and silver...

nope I shoot things with it

My point went so far over your head it may have achieved orbit.

The point is everything is fine and bronze and silver. A Predator I is monstrous on bronze and silver. That doesn't make it an acceptable weapon.

[Eelectrica]

Dragoons have no trouble getting kills with the hornet. Ask them how it's done.

[tungstenKestrel]

Only positive things about the Hornet is quick reload. >_>

[Variasaber]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

"Caster" guns...you people realise there are plenty of other lightweight options that are available to casters that don't have the terrible handling characteristics of this gun, right?

"caster gun"
noun:
A gun which, when masked by the usage of 2 or even 3 powers, seems decent because you werent actually using it.

 

Well phrased.

The Talon is a good caster gun.
It's also a good gun for a class that's more weapon-oriented.

[HolyAvenger]

Variasaber wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

"Caster" guns...you people realise there are plenty of other lightweight options that are available to casters that don't have the terrible handling characteristics of this gun, right?

"caster gun"
noun:
A gun which, when masked by the usage of 2 or even 3 powers, seems decent because you werent actually using it.

 

Well phrased.

The Talon is a good caster gun.
It's also a good gun for a class that's more weapon-oriented.

Yes, the Talon is a very good gun, regardless of the kit is on. The Hornet is a bad gun, regardless of the kit it is on.

[solidprice]

hornet suck brb gonna grind it out on the Turian solider.

he can make most guns zero to hero.

[GroverA125]

All rare SMGs are a little below standards. Mainly because their con heavily outweighs the advantages.

Look at the GPSMG. If it were a rifle, it'd be fine, but it's not. It's a lightweight rapid-fire SMG that requires exposure to work. Any character who uses SMGs can't deal with exposure, only the heavy classes can, and they are better off with heavier weapons.

Hornet is like a hurricane, burns through ammo, highly inaccurate, bad spread when you need it. All of these the hornet has... Except it doesnt have the huge damage output. The reward is not worth it, so the hurricane literally renders it obsolete.

Even the CSMG is bad for an ultra rare weapon. 99 problems, and only 2 mod slots to fix them with. If it more base ammo and a faster replenish rate, it'd be fine, or at least at higher levels.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Eelectrica wrote...

Dragoons have no trouble getting kills with the hornet. Ask them how it's done.

I want THAT Hornet.
And Murderer´s Phaeston.

[HolyAvenger]

zorinho20 wrote...

Eelectrica wrote...

Dragoons have no trouble getting kills with the hornet. Ask them how it's done.

I want THAT Hornet.
And Murderer´s Phaeston.

If I had the Collector Captains' CAR, I would never use another gun

[Zorinho20_CRO]

HolyAvenger wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

Eelectrica wrote...

Dragoons have no trouble getting kills with the hornet. Ask them how it's done.

I want THAT Hornet.
And Murderer´s Phaeston.

If I had the Collector Captains' CAR, I would never use another gun

[NiccaLamphien]

Its a pretty solid gun for running up bosses on gold and platinum, has massive amounts of ammo if nodded right and can tear through shields. I like it.