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[IWC3714A]

Or is it just me?

I wanted to try platnium for the sake of it after reading all the hypes and watching youtube videos. After all gold was getting meh and i wanted some fresh air. So after keep getting kicked from Platnium Lobby from N1000+ and 3000+ Challenge Point players, I managed to get my N60 ass in a plat lobby, and basically we lined up like this.

1. (Best of us) Acolyte X. N7 Fury
2. Black Widow I. QFI
3. Black Widow II (myself). HFI.
4. M-11 I

We were carrying this kid with the M-11 (clearly he was very young from the tone of his voice, adequate ME3 experience) and i have to say having a Fury with biotic combo carrying the Acolyte X did take some of the pressure off. 

But i felt the game was very SLOW compared to gold? Dealing with more enimies with low HP is tougher than dealing with less enemies with boosted HP, which makes running around the map easier?

We played 3 maps: Benning/Ceb/Plat and Giant/Ceb/Plat (twice). I know both maps were easy. We averaged on Wave 9 until **** hit the fan. I was sync-killed all 3 times by Phantoms which was not convincing.

My point is, we had BW I and BW II, i mean, meh at best, we were carrying and we still managed around Wave 9, which led me to a conclusion that:
- Plat is meh of a challenge. I'm sure if we each have 5+ missiles we'd definitly clear it. I have 2 in my load out atm, lame.
- My 2nd conclusion i want to get your opinons on. I personally feel that the act of elites kicking people out from Plat lobbies is also lame. It only proves that they're insecure. If you're insecure, why get your N7 ranking up and tell the world about your skills through challenge points? While that may not be fake but clearly you're a poser. I'm talking like this because i was trolled in one of the lobby yesterday where these 3000+ challenge point users immediately switched to Bronze level after i joined the lobby. I trolled them back by getting my hand on the 1st delivery and never finished. I wouldn't call these people elites. Challenge points and N7 level doesn't mean jack to me. To me Elites are players who get **** done given any variables. Also, it's a team game. 

Charisma up, leaders.

Modifié par IWC3714A, 06 février 2013 - 04:58 .

[ISHYGDDT]

Platinum=Gold x 1.3 in terms of enemy tankiness, so yeah expect matches to be about 30% longer.

As to your other point (IMO) platinum is a failed difficulty level mainly useful for making bank. If everyone is investing full level 3-4 consumables, they want a definite return on their investment. Thus kicking anyone risky.

 Holding on to the Pizza and refusing to deliver it is also a super dbag move.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 06 février 2013 - 05:05 .

[cowwy]

I've never been a fan of Platinum. Too much stunlock for my tastes.

[IWC3714A]

ISHYGDDT wrote...
 Holding on to the Pizza and refusing to deliver it is also a super dbag move.

i fully agree. Would never do it in out of respect for other team players. We were all trolling each other. I don't think anyone was serious.

Modifié par IWC3714A, 06 février 2013 - 06:44 .

[poonts]

on the subject of kicking... do u wanna extract (and not pop a vein in your forehead in the process)? ...or do you want to have a fairly smooth match that lasts a reasonable amount of time?

a widow II would get a kick vote from me. it's just the law of averages. most without at least a maxed gold manifest will be a drain on the team, most of the time. there are exceptions of course, but that's the reality. plat, imo, just isn't worth pugging. even one weak member can easily ruin the rhythm and timing of the team.

sync-kills are inevitable in plat. you want to be confident that if you go down, everything won't just fall apart. it's not elitism is being practical. plat is for credits, gold is for fun. burning through all your consumables and not making at least wave 10 credits just makes me want to stop playing for the day.

as for plat itself, it's artificially inflated difficulty isn't a real test of play ability anyway. maybe if the AI was more 'intelligent' than it is on gold... but it's not. the credits are nice but not worth the rage inducing average pug match.

[orehlol]

 OP just wait until you have to carry randoms every mission on platinum.

[Computron2000]

IWC3714A wrote...

Or is it just me?

I wanted to try platnium for the sake of it after reading all the hypes and watching youtube videos. After all gold was getting meh and i wanted some fresh air. So after keep getting kicked from Platnium Lobby from N1000+ and 3000+ Challenge Point players, I managed to get my N60 ass in a plat lobby, and basically we lined up like this.

1. (Best of us) Acolyte X. N7 Fury
2. Black Widow I. QFI
3. Black Widow II (myself). HFI.
4. M-11 I

We were carrying this kid with the M-11 (clearly he was very young from the tone of his voice, adequate ME3 experience) and i have to say having a Fury with biotic combo carrying the Acolyte X did take some of the pressure off. 

But i felt the game was very SLOW compared to gold? Dealing with more enimies with low HP is tougher than dealing with less enemies with boosted HP, which makes running around the map easier?

We played 3 maps: Benning/Ceb/Plat and Giant/Ceb/Plat (twice). I know both maps were easy. We averaged on Wave 9 until **** hit the fan. I was sync-killed all 3 times by Phantoms which was not convincing.

My point is, we had BW I and BW II, i mean, meh at best, we were carrying and we still managed around Wave 9, which led me to a conclusion that:
- Plat is meh of a challenge. I'm sure if we each have 5+ missiles we'd definitly clear it. I have 2 in my load out atm, lame.
- My 2nd conclusion i want to get your opinons on. I personally feel that the act of elites kicking people out from Plat lobbies is also lame. It only proves that they're insecure. If you're insecure, why get your N7 ranking up and tell the world about your skills through challenge points? While that may not be fake but clearly you're a poser. I'm talking like this because i was trolled in one of the lobby yesterday where these 3000+ challenge point users immediately switched to Bronze level after i joined the lobby. I trolled them back by getting my hand on the 1st delivery and never finished. I wouldn't call these people elites. Challenge points and N7 level doesn't mean jack to me. To me Elites are players who get **** done given any variables. Also, it's a team game. 

Charisma up, leaders.

This you OP? social.bioware.com/n7hq/home/inventory/

106 games and platinum is super simple eh? Average of collapsing on wave 9 because you got sync killed? Giant 11 waves and Hazard 6 waves. So 3 games, 17 waves = average of dying on wave 9? Fascinating maths there hero

I'm sure whoever the poor shumuck fury had to carry you was very happy with your contributions especially with what 2 (the 4th is a mystery) infilitrators.

Oh yeah the kickers was lame as hell for not carrying you.


Btw, you might want to get together with this guy http://social.biowar...ndex/15780251/1 since both of you are feeling platinum is nothing difficult 

Modifié par Computron2000, 06 février 2013 - 06:02 .

[poonts]

OP, glad to see u speak from experience.

-elitist

[darkpassenger2342]

dude you only have 2 medi gel and youre talking about carrying people on plat.
and 0 rail amp 3's.

maybe you are confused?

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 06 février 2013 - 06:03 .

[Computron2000]

Modifié par Computron2000, 06 février 2013 - 06:43 .

[poonts]

 bump :innocent:

[ISHYGDDT]

Eh guys don't be so hard on the kid, he's just another Christmas newbie, talking big because he wants to fit in on the forums.

[Distilled Poison]

Nice, a guy with 40 hours played, 2 medigels, no consumables, and not even so much as maxed uncommon weapon is complaining about being kicked on the hardest difficulty. This is hilarious.

[drmoose00]

i find plat a slog.

it is a nice change of pace on occasion, but I prefer gold, and even Silver sometimes when I dont' feel like paying attention or trying a new class/weapon

[megabeast37215]

You gotta pay your dues in Gold before you're ready for Plat...

When you play U/U/G... if you consistently score 150,000 or more... then you might wanna think about Platinum. If you don't top score in Gold PUGs 80+% of the time, just don't try it.

Also... you NEED all 5 rockets, all 6 gels and all 6 OPS packs before you goto Plat. You will use them... especially the rockets.

[121210Olivia]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Eh guys don't be so hard on the kid, he's just another Christmas newbie, talking big because he wants to fit in on the forums.

[xtorma]

Computron2000 wrote...

IWC3714A wrote...

Or is it just me?

I wanted to try platnium for the sake of it after reading all the hypes and watching youtube videos. After all gold was getting meh and i wanted some fresh air. So after keep getting kicked from Platnium Lobby from N1000+ and 3000+ Challenge Point players, I managed to get my N60 ass in a plat lobby, and basically we lined up like this.

1. (Best of us) Acolyte X. N7 Fury
2. Black Widow I. QFI
3. Black Widow II (myself). HFI.
4. M-11 I

We were carrying this kid with the M-11 (clearly he was very young from the tone of his voice, adequate ME3 experience) and i have to say having a Fury with biotic combo carrying the Acolyte X did take some of the pressure off. 

But i felt the game was very SLOW compared to gold? Dealing with more enimies with low HP is tougher than dealing with less enemies with boosted HP, which makes running around the map easier?

We played 3 maps: Benning/Ceb/Plat and Giant/Ceb/Plat (twice). I know both maps were easy. We averaged on Wave 9 until **** hit the fan. I was sync-killed all 3 times by Phantoms which was not convincing.

My point is, we had BW I and BW II, i mean, meh at best, we were carrying and we still managed around Wave 9, which led me to a conclusion that:
- Plat is meh of a challenge. I'm sure if we each have 5+ missiles we'd definitly clear it. I have 2 in my load out atm, lame.
- My 2nd conclusion i want to get your opinons on. I personally feel that the act of elites kicking people out from Plat lobbies is also lame. It only proves that they're insecure. If you're insecure, why get your N7 ranking up and tell the world about your skills through challenge points? While that may not be fake but clearly you're a poser. I'm talking like this because i was trolled in one of the lobby yesterday where these 3000+ challenge point users immediately switched to Bronze level after i joined the lobby. I trolled them back by getting my hand on the 1st delivery and never finished. I wouldn't call these people elites. Challenge points and N7 level doesn't mean jack to me. To me Elites are players who get **** done given any variables. Also, it's a team game. 

Charisma up, leaders.

This you OP? social.bioware.com/n7hq/home/inventory/

106 games and platinum is super simple eh? Average of collapsing on wave 9 because you got sync killed? Giant 11 waves and Hazard 6 waves. So 3 games, 17 waves = average of dying on wave 9? Fascinating maths there hero

I'm sure whoever the poor shumuck fury had to carry you was very happy with your contributions especially with what 2 (the 4th is a mystery) infilitrators.

Oh yeah the kickers was lame as hell for not carrying you.


Btw, you might want to get together with this guy http://social.biowar...ndex/15780251/1 since both of you are feeling platinum is nothing difficult 

I thinks you've been busted op. You may think gold in game is meh, but you are still a bronze level forum poster.

[rnc007]

OP - until you can safely say that half the time the team won because you were there, it doesn't make sense to call a difficulty level easy. Getting to wave 9 is a fail, and the truth is that likely replacing you with an average platinum pug would have helped your team. And if you were to join my lobby and not use your consumables appropriately, I'd certainly kick you after the match was done.

[121210Olivia]

megabeast37215 wrote...

You gotta pay your dues in Gold before you're ready for Plat...

When you play U/U/G... if you consistently score 150,000 or more... then you might wanna think about Platinum. If you don't top score in Gold PUGs 80+% of the time, just don't try it.

Also... you NEED all 5 rockets, all 6 gels and all 6 OPS packs before you goto Plat. You will use them... especially the rockets.

Well put, Megabeast. Especially, the reference to consumables.

[Koenig888]

megabeast37215 wrote...

You gotta pay your dues in Gold before you're ready for Plat...

When you play U/U/G... if you consistently score 150,000 or more... then you might wanna think about Platinum. If you don't top score in Gold PUGs 80+% of the time, just don't try it.

Also... you NEED all 5 rockets, all 6 gels and all 6 OPS packs before you goto Plat. You will use them... especially the rockets.

More like a case of first paying his dues in Bronze or Silver. 

[neocodex]

I am smelling a nonmaster race here, not that it matters but just proves some other fact.

Seriously tough, OP:

goback2silver, learn2play.

Most of us didnt start playing gold until we had at least some of the rares near maxed back when the game started, also been playing silver for months before even tryed gold. And even than with best amps and ammos. Also, playing for months back than meant you probably also had more rares leveled up since there were a few less you could get (thus increasing your chance of progressing faster trough rng).

Going to platinum with 100 games played is a lol, and you should be kicked from every gold and specialy platinum randoms lobbies until you get at least like 300 games behind you for gold and maybe double that to be deemed ready for platinum. This is, of course, if you want to be viable, or even think about "carrying" someone.

It is completely different tough, if you find 3 elitist friends that will carry you on plat to earn you some fast creds, which is totally doable even with a n7 1 scrub if he's following the team and not screwing things up (we've done it before, it was never a problem).

Now stop acting smart, be patient and go back to silver, enjoy the game, or find some people that will help you level up if you're not patient, but I think that's not the right way to go, because believe me, you need experience not matter how much talent you think have. Every game counts, no matter what difficulty you played on. And challenge points and banners don't mean anything in terms of skills, just for future reference. It might show apart a new player from a seasoned one, but this is never a rule that they are really good. I've seen people suck who made the challenges and earned a hoarde of points way quicker than I did, but were nowhere near an elitist player in terms of skill. So forget about those jerks that are stating their N7 and score is too high to play with you - no, it's not that, but it's you, you're just imagining this the wrong way. You think that they think they are better, but it is you who is overreacing and overexpecting his abilities and believe me good sir, they are doing you a favor from kicking you in a plat lobby. I would kick a player like you everyday from randoms (not as if I play any), for the sake of everyone's good, because you are just not ready. Bottom line. Except in the case the friends are farming it for you, this is the only case you can stay in a platinum match.

So if you still really want to speed this up, behave nice on the bsn, join a group and try to find some cool to play with who will help you.

Sincerely,

- your elitist jerk

Modifié par neocodexx, 06 février 2013 - 07:22 .

[drmoose00]

after checking out your manifest, I would prob have kicked you too...

seriously, people going into platinum invest a lot of time and consumables to slog it through. No one likes to carry on Plat.

[IWC3714A]

Computron2000 wrote...

This you OP? social.bioware.com/n7hq/home/inventory/

106 games and platinum is super simple eh? Average of collapsing on wave 9 because you got sync killed? Giant 11 waves and Hazard 6 waves. So 3 games, 17 waves = average of dying on wave 9? Fascinating maths there hero

I'm sure whoever the poor shumuck fury had to carry you was very happy with your contributions especially with what 2 (the 4th is a mystery) infilitrators.

Oh yeah the kickers was lame as hell for not carrying you.


Btw, you might want to get together with this guy http://social.biowar...ndex/15780251/1 since both of you are feeling platinum is nothing difficult 

Thanks computron,

i've come across a few of yours posts before and i do recognize that you practice a habit of looking up other people's online profiles. Sneaky, well, mine is intentionally left public and i do mean intentionally, for people who think 106 games aren't plat viable.

If you do think that way because most likely it applies to yourself, I have a sharper learning curve than you. I won't bother looking you up because if you need 600 hours plus and a maxed manifest for plat, you suck at gaming, warrior.

I already said in my OP i had a missle cap at 2. I'm sure if it was 5, i would have extracted atleast 1 plat game from the 17 waves you said i went through. Oh, and that missing average that you're flaming me about, after keep getting kicked from lobby, the server brought me to a wave 3 on Benning Hazard plat run. That was my first time at plat, we got until wave 9. 2nd plat run was on Giant, also died off on wave 9. 3rd plat run on Giant, rage quit early.  

Thanks Poonts for first taking the time to be resonable about it. I'm not saying plat is easy. I'm sure it's a challenge if i takes effort and might pop a nerve or too. At my manifest, it's some sort of a challenge. a BW II + sinper amp 1 + phasic III can pop a full armor dragon or full barrier phantom with 2 shots, given the 2nd is a headshot (1 headshot only for dragon). I'm not sure why you'd need more. That's about the most challenging enemies because they're super fast in close range sniper rifling. But at BW II and that's viable. Smooth sailing with a maxed out manifest is not a challenge, it's just boring. 

dude you only have 2 medi gel and youre talking about carrying people on plat.
and 0 rail amp 3's.

maybe you are confused?

I have a medigel cap at 4. When i first started (40 hours) ago according to some people, i had about 60+ missiles, medigels, oppack, etc... after spamming the VP. Used them up along the way as i keep buying the PSP which doesn't really give out these items in bulk. 

I had a bunch of Rail Amp III, IV, used them all up in Gold games before out of respect for other people as they would rate my N7 ranking (at 60).

You gotta pay your dues in Gold before you're ready for Plat...

When
you play U/U/G... if you consistently score 150,000 or more... then you
might wanna think about Platinum. If you don't top score in Gold PUGs
80+% of the time, just don't try it.

Also... you NEED all 5
rockets, all 6 gels and all 6 OPS packs before you goto Plat. You will
use them... especially the rockets.

I tried plat after topping a U/U/G with 120k. Anymore and i think you're just spamming respawn points and taking extra from teammates.

I was doing Silver at N7 Lvl20. At N7 40 i went on Gold. I'm at 60. I have no intention of increasing my N7 level because i don't see it as an indication of skills. It's pretty moronic to do so.