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[IWC3714A]

neocodexx wrote...

I am smelling a nonmaster race here, not that it matters but just proves some other fact.

Seriously tough, OP:

goback2silver, learn2play.

Most of us didnt start playing gold until we had at least some of the rares near maxed back when the game started, also been playing silver for months before even tryed gold. And even than with best amps and ammos. Also, playing for months back than meant you probably also had more rares leveled up since there were a few less you could get (thus increasing your chance of progressing faster trough rng).

Going to platinum with 100 games played is a lol, and you should be kicked from every gold and specialy platinum randoms lobbies until you get at least like 300 games behind you for gold and maybe double that to be deemed ready for platinum. This is, of course, if you want to be viable, or even think about "carrying" someone.

It is completely different tough, if you find 3 elitist friends that will carry you on plat to earn you some fast creds, which is totally doable even with a n7 1 scrub if he's following the team and not screwing things up (we've done it before, it was never a problem).

Now stop acting smart, be patient and go back to silver, enjoy the game, or find some people that will help you level up if you're not patient, but I think that's not the right way to go, because believe me, you need experience not matter how much talent you think have. Every game counts, no matter what difficulty you played on. And challenge points and banners don't mean anything in terms of skills, just for future reference. It might show apart a new player from a seasoned one, but this is never a rule that they are really good. I've seen people suck who made the challenges and earned a hoarde of points way quicker than I did, but were nowhere near an elitist player in terms of skill. So forget about those jerks that are stating their N7 and score is too high to play with you - no, it's not that, but it's you, you're just imagining this the wrong way. You think that they think they are better, but it is you who is overreacing and overexpecting his abilities and believe me good sir, they are doing you a favor from kicking you in a plat lobby. I would kick a player like you everyday from randoms (not as if I play any), for the sake of everyone's good, because you are just not ready. Bottom line. Except in the case the friends are farming it for you, this is the only case you can stay in a platinum match.

So if you still really want to speed this up, behave nice on the bsn, join a group and try to find some cool to play with who will help you.

Sincerely,

- your elitist jerk

OMG Neo, i stopped reading at most of us started gold when you have at least a maxed out rare.
I topped a U/U/G with 120k with a N7 Fury Lvl 20, Acolyte III, N7 Lvl. 60, that's why i moved to plat.

Like i said, it takes longer for some

[k1ngl1ves]

N7 below 120? I'd kick you too. If you're below 120, my consumables are worth more than you. Sorry, but it's true. Weapons are one thing that's not so important. Lack of good Gear is what new players are missing. Build you manifest playing Silver/Gold... or go hide in the Box O' Shame and help those people fail.

[Titus Thongger]

sorry you just sound butthurt to me.

your rares need to be maxed and URs around level 3 and above before start giving you a slight benefit of the doubt on rares. Otherwise it's the boot for you.

fact of the game. plat lobbies dont kick you because they're elitist. they kick you because they dont feel like carrying you. I'm not going to equip all my level 3/4 equipment to have do jack-all, forcing me to work harder while you reap the same rewards I do.

It's the same thing in a team in real life. Every member of the TEAM helps one another out. You're not helping your team if you're the weak ****** in it

[megabeast37215]

IWC3714A wrote...

I tried plat after topping a U/U/G with 120k. Anymore and i think you're just spamming respawn points and taking extra from teammates.

I was doing Silver at N7 Lvl20. At N7 40 i went on Gold. I'm at 60. I have no intention of increasing my N7 level because i don't see it as an indication of skills. It's pretty moronic to do so. 

Why is your N7 rank so low? Do you only play certain kits? If I didn't see AT LEAST N7 120... it would be an auto-kick, no questions asked... unless I felt like doing charity work (which I do... carry noobs through Plat).

I also don't see N7 as a pure 100% accurate indicator of skill... but it's a sign. Seeing a Rail Amp I is also a sign, seeing non-maxed Rare weapons is also a sign. All these signs point to one thing... you're not ready, nor were the players you mentioned in the OP.

I want to ask you about this statement: I tried plat after topping a U/U/G with 120k. Anymore and i think you're just spamming respawn points and taking extra from teammates.

What the hell is spamming respawn points? You mean attacking enemy spawns? That's what your supposed to do... and on waves 5, 7, 8 and 9... you're supposed to attack them with ROCKETS! But you can't do that... because you don't have any. This is another reason why your games take longer.. you guys aren't spawn nuking.

Taking extra from teammates? WTF is that? Kill as fast and as hard as you can... anything else just makes the game take longer, which is a waste of time.

Finally... 120k in one Gold match does not make you God's gift to ME3 MP. Like I said... CONSISTENTLY top the scoreboard in 80+% of your Gold PUGs, and score about 150k with your infiltrator... get your rockets/gels maxed, then by all means, have at it.

You're not ready now... and the reason for that isn't your skill level... it's because you're underequipped and undergunned.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

I looked at your manifest op, and you are seriously underequipped for plat. I hate to say it but I probably would have kicked you too if I was in the same lobby. It's just that about nine times out of ten, anyone who's n7 is below 120 will be a drag to the team in gold and plat. Max out your consumables capacity and get at least a couple maxed out rare weapons then go to plat.

[neocodex]

IWC3714A wrote...
OMG Neo, i stopped reading at most of us started gold when you have at least a maxed out rare.
I topped a U/U/G with 120k with a N7 Fury Lvl 20, Acolyte III, N7 Lvl. 60, that's why i moved to plat.

Like i said, it takes longer for some

Wow, I bet you tell that yourself at night everytime you go to sleep.

You are STILL not worthy of platinum, so don't you dare talking about moving there. Oh and you can easily do a 300k or more on fury, specialy if playing with randoms, just fyi. 120k is really low actually, if you wanna talk PRO, because that's obivously what you are, right?

Back in the days there was no acolyte and no N7 fury, and maxed out rare could mean GPR X,
altough you could do just fine with Claymore I if you had it. A mistake
by my part, I was not detailed enough about it. I invite you to read my
post again.

And excuse me for talking to you mister awesome, because you are too good to be compared to me, and will be able to faceroll solo platinum with a volus predator in a month. The bsn should totally kneel before you because you are so damn good. And I am expecting your solo vids in a months time, to proove your mighty words.

Modifié par neocodexx, 06 février 2013 - 08:14 .

[Titus Thongger]

^ back in the day most of the URs were quite garbage as well.

OP asked for opinions. He got it and didnt like it. Now he's calling people names.

[Computron2000]

120k on UUG is the measure to be absolutely fantabulous? Hell the other night i score 907,854 and came last on the scoreboard . Don't believe me? Well i have nuts for proof just like you. What i do have thoug is a screen shot of a PUG, yes a PUG, 5 hours ago on UUG, where the scores were 189141, 127272, 111392, 82115. According to you, the first 2 are fantabulous while the 3rd is almost fantabulous and the 4th needs work.

Kind of easy to be as fantabulous as you OP.

[LightRobot]

Not ready for plat, you can always try lobbies but expect to be kicked by most people.
You say plat isn't really much of a challenge yet you never extracted on one wtf ?Even if you had 5 rockets, 6 medigels, 6 survival ops, you still wouldn't be ready, why ? Because you have around 40hours of gameplay, and... you've never extracted on plat !
It's easy to blame you failures on such things, last plat I lost, I'm sure if I hadn't been sync-killed by a banshee, we would've made it , I had still plenty of gels, but guess what ? We didn't.

You may be very skilled regardless of the little time you've palyed the game but you're still a liability on plat.Here's something that has been said over and over again on this forums : we don't read minds, your n7, equipement, gear and weapons are the only indication of your value. In my experience there's no n7 60 that wouldn't be a liability on plat, will that liability result in the fail of the game ? Maybe maybe not, but why take the chance ?In my experience most of n7 60 are a liability even on gold, there may be exceptions but how the **** should I know ? 
What about you ? Let's see how many low n7 level you tolerate in you future platinum games.

[Meeeps]

Also don't take "Kick votes" too personally, with your points and equipments, someone could simply think, you entered the lobby by accident. Which likely can happen to "Newbies".

(I would have points and equipment for Platinum but lack skills, Gold pug is no issue, though.)

[HolyAvenger]

Me and some friends carried a low-level guy through Plat last night (N7 of 73 or so). He was a TGI with a Widow I and a sidearm of some kind, with level 3 equipment and Armoured Compartments II. We figured we'd give him a shot. To give him his due, he didn't die all that much, though he didn't kill all that much either. So I get that there are low-level players out there who can handle plat. What I think they're missing is the fact their equipment is seriously underleveled for plat, meaning their DPS is low...which will of course translate to slower clear times. I regularly play 18-20 minute UUP games with friends.

The worst are people who try to do Plat without equipment. Just GTFO of my lobbies.

[SoundWraith]

Experience and load-outs count because like it or not, people are going to judge and are entitled to not play with you if they deem fit. Some like the challenge of carrying but most are just looking for a comfortable game set-up. Naturally they would expect the same of other players in their game.

Anyways as you said it yourself plat is rife with bullet sponges. Having better equipment makes for faster pickings and less room for mistakes. One slight mis-turn is all it takes to flush a 20min+ game down the drain. Which most plat players are doing for the credits. More time = more credits hence the reluctance for any risk.

[IWC3714A]

Titus Thongger wrote...

^ back in the day most of the URs were quite garbage as well.

OP asked for opinions. He got it and didnt like it. Now he's calling people names.

This is what i'd like to point out to everyone who has responded to my thread:
1. Read my post, did i call people names or did you guys get bitter all at once and start throwing names my way? I'm far from taking things personally.
2. Kicking people because their N7 Level needs to be atleast 120 is wrong. It's your game if you're hosting and it's your right to doubt other people according to their manifest. What you're failing to see is, there are different solutions to a puzzle. And ME3 is a puzzle and you have a variety of weapons, classes, consumables, etc to solve it. Having a maxed out manifest is the ultimate solution to the game in general, but don't bash other players if they find a workaround with low level weapons. Is it not a strategy game when you're learning maps to your advantage and your characters' strength and weaknesses?
3. Also, do you find the act of promoting and jacking your N7 Level worth doing? If so keep doing it. As for me, I play on the PS3 so moving around is difficult compared to PC players, i need about the best cover i can get especially on higher difficulity and that's easier with the infiltrator. The problem to dps is solved with the Fury. I'm learning these 2 classes, and promoting and setting back the class to Level 1 will just hurt the learning curve as for now so i refuse to do it. I'm pretty sure by the day ME4 came out (if ever), i'd be a N7 Lvl 120 at most with 0 promotions doing plat. Hell I like the No. 100 so i might just leave it at that, meaning I'll leave a class unplayed.    
3. Score means jack****, agreed. Thats why when i topped a U/U/G with 120k, it was time for me to move on. It's far from the highest scores you guys would stick around on Gold to achieve, but that was enough for me. It's like playing RE1 knife only, and SH1,2. Don't bash me because what i find enjoyable is what you don't. Some of the comments are like 'gods' gift to me3', 'do i tell myself that everynight?', or "i'll be soloing plat with a volus in a month'. Come on, is it me or are you guys taking things too personally? Take it easy, man. I'm not trying to fit in with you guys, I came here because the game is fun and i enjoy reading discussion topics on MP.

Modifié par IWC3714A, 06 février 2013 - 09:32 .

[megabeast37215]

IWC3714A wrote...

This is what i'd like to point out to everyone who has responded to my thread:
1. Read my post, did i call people names or did you guys get bitter all at once and start throwing names my way? I'm far from taking things personally.
2. Kicking people because their N7 Level needs to be atleast 120 is wrong. It's your game if you're hosting and it's your right to doubt other people according to their manifest. What you're failing to see is, there are different solutions to a puzzle. And ME3 is a puzzle and you have a variety of weapons, classes, consumables, etc to solve it. Having a maxed out manifest is the ultimate solution to the game in general, but don't bash other players if they find a workaround with low level weapons. Is it not a strategy game when you're learning maps to your advantage and your characters' strength and weaknesses?
3. Also, do you find the act of promoting and jacking your N7 Level worth doing? If so keep doing it. As for me, I play on the PS3 so moving around is difficult compared to PC players, i need about the best cover i can get especially on higher difficulity and that's easier with the infiltrator. The problem to dps is solved with the Fury. I'm learning these 2 classes, and promoting and setting back the class to Level 1 will just hurt the learning curve as for now so i refuse to do it. I'm pretty sure by the day ME4 came out (if ever), i'd be a N7 Lvl 120 at most with 0 promotions doing plat. Hell I like the No. 100 so i might just leave it at that, meaning I'll leave a class unplayed.    
3. Score means jack****, agreed. Thats why when i topped a U/U/G with 120k, it was time for me to move on. It's far from the highest scores you guys would stick around on Gold to achieve, but that was enough for me. It's like playing RE1 knife only, and SH1,2. Don't bash me because what i find enjoyable is what you don't. Some of the comments are like 'gods' gift to me3', 'do i tell myself that everynight?', or "i'll be soloing plat with a volus in a month'. Come on, is it me or are you guys taking things too personally? Take it easy, man.

Wow. Just... wow.

You truely have no idea what you're talking about.

The DPS problem is solved by the Fury... L... O... L...!!!!!

If you want to have a serious conversation... I'll have one... but this is all predicated on the concept of you not thinking you already know everything. I'll go point by point with you if you're actually willing to listen... but if you think you've got all the answers already... you're dead wrong.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 06 février 2013 - 09:33 .

[IWC3714A]

Please do explain

[HolyAvenger]

The problem with not playing other kits and classes is that you have no idea what your teammates will be doing or how to have synergy with them.

With the variety of kits and classes ME3MP offers, you really should be looking at trying to learn if not master a fair few of them so you get how things work ie using sabotage in tech-heavy teams, or the utility of Reave characters in biotics teams or how to tank for your teammates using a novaguard or kroguard etc.

[Titus Thongger]

the OP was was insulting the intelligence of other players by stating that it took them 600 or so hours to hit platinum. dont try to disguise it.

no, the only time I promote is when I dont have a respec card and I want to change the builds of several characters in a class.but in an imperfect world, N7 and challenge points act as a signalling device of your skill. Just as the same way your equipment and gear and consumable usage is a signalling device of your commitment to the match.

an n7 below 120 also implies, as you stated, a class is unplayed or underplayed. This is also another indicator of your lack of time invested and skill in the game.

and no one was bashing you because of your playing style. everyone plays differently. people stated from you manifest you did not look ready for platinum with your equipment and time spent in the game. You counterargued saying 'I learn things faster than you do' and that 'if you need X amount of time spent to reach plat then you're slow etc'.

just stating facts. I really dont care one way or another how you play

[Moby]

IWC3714A wrote...

The problem to dps is solved with the Fury.

Oh man, this made me laugh hard. 

[jrm_ayun]

You don't need 5 missles to successfully game at plat. They're mostly a panic button or for things to go faster. For pace of the game, if you mean killing things then of course it's slower with all the bosses. What did you expect?

Kicking in lobby, at least with people here, comes from bad experience with those kinds of setup which is alot mind you if you haven't read all the bad pug stories on this forum. You had three games which seemingly ended bad. You got sync-killed three times in a game. You clearly still have things to work on. If you've read enough of this forum, even those who can solo plat or gold can have a hard time with a bad team and/or bad setup.

SMH, way to waste your time with that unfinished delivery just to troll people. You could've just went to another lobby. Was just gonna give advice but seeing the whole OP and the way you responded seems like you're just butthurt. Sigh

[stormrider1012]

I'm confused.. You say platinum isn't much of a challenge yet you don't even have a single platinum extraction? You keep repeating this "I topped a gold random game with 120K using a fury, I'm too awesome for gold now" mantra when all we have is your word for it. All the while your manifest shows you only have 4/4/2/2 capacity for consumables, no level 3 ammo/amps and not even a single maxed gear. Maybe you really are as awesome as you say but most guys on a platinum lobby would rather not risk it and you can't blame them. Thing is, you are badly underequipped for the DPS-fest that is platinum which means you are "likely" a liability. Hell, some people would kick you in gold if they are not keen on carrying.

[IWC3714A]

Titus, i was insulted first by Computron who bashed me about 106 games not ready for plat. Tell me my weapons & load out suck i would have accepted that.

I'm confused.. You say platinum isn't much of a challenge yet you don't even have a single platinum extraction?

I never said plat wasn't a challenge. I had my first runs at it yesterday, raped 3 times by phantoms but the level disappointed me. i was expecting something more. My first impression was that it was not impossible, and there are work arounds. If i feel that way and I'm no more than 40 hours sinked into the mp, it must be alot easier for those with maxed out rares which led me to asking why people with likely maxed out rares kick others with low level weapons out of their games which turns into a bashout, happening as we speak.

Modifié par IWC3714A, 06 février 2013 - 10:00 .

[Kalas Magnus]

121210Olivia wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Eh guys don't be so hard on the kid, he's just another Christmas newbie, talking big because he wants to fit in on the forums.

[Computron2000]

The best answer is that everyone else is a scrub compared to the OP. Oh great godlike player of ME3MP please share your secrets with all the scrubs here.

Surely with your infinite intellect and learning speed, you will be able to solo platinum tomorrow and tell us worthless players how to do it.

And tell us oh great divine one, it is not just because you lack 3 rockets that you got cleaned, not with your fantastic strategy and solution to platinum! Surely that could not have happened!

Hell, i'll even settle for a gold solo to show how good you are.

[Titus Thongger]

IWC3714A wrote...

Titus, i was insulted first by Computron who bashed me about 106 games not ready for plat. Tell me my weapons & load out suck i would have accepted that.

look, I really don't want to sound dickish but the vast majority of people will not be ready for plat after 106 games.