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[RB26D3TT]

I wont argue with kids who can't distinguish game and real life. Kudos.

Modifié par RB26D3TT, 06 février 2013 - 12:13 .

[Saints]

RB26D3TT wrote...

I wont argue with kids who can't distinguish game and real life. Kudos.

WHAT? YOU CAN'T? *imput sarcastic.jpg*

[Signuversum]

Cheaters... as long as they ruin public games with rocket glitching or overclocking the lobby, they should be eaten. And reported. Yes. But checking for cheaters like in checking the leaderboards - lol, do you even have the time to play the game while watching the boards like a broker on crack?

[RB26D3TT]

Signuversum wrote...

Cheaters... as long as they ruin public games with rocket glitching or overclocking the lobby, they should be eaten. And reported. Yes. But checking for cheaters like in checking the leaderboards - lol, do you even have the time to play the game while watching the boards like a broker on crack?

What part of "I only checked the guy who was first in my country on both leaderbards" didn't you understand?

[Signuversum]

What part of "it's a computer game, not a presidential election" didn't you understand while asking to remove privacy?

[Chealec]

Signuversum wrote...

What part of "it's a computer game, not a presidential election" didn't you understand while asking to remove privacy?

Hey - computer games are way more serious than elections! At least your choices make an actual difference to the outcome in a computer game ... oh, wait ...

[Duke E]

RB26D3TT wrote...

Duke E wrote...

A: Oh dude, this house is huge! Hey, it's fenced, it should not be! I should be able to see through the window to check if there is anything valuable in there!
B: Huh... why would you wanna do that?
A: So I can report the owner if I see anything "too" valuable, to the police or to the anti-corruption agency!
B: Everyone is entitled to have their private and family life respected, except under the circumstances and conditions determined by the law. Who the heck do you think you are? Who gives you the right to breach others' privacy?
A: But this house seems too nice! I have to check!
B: Oh my...

I understand OP's view and why he proposed the no-hiding manifest, hell yeah I wanna report all those cheaters too. "If one's got nothing to hide, he shouldn't hide at all" is not a strong argument. Because one could argue that he's not hiding from authority but merely protecting his own privacy from the general public. One sure have the right to do just that.

What if I knock on someone's door and ask to see their stuff in their house? They probably would tell me to f*** off. If someone wants to see my manifest, I'll ask why? If you say you just want to see it, then I sure have to right to say, sorry you're not my friend, I don't want to show you. If you say that you suspect me of cheating, then I'll laugh and shrug: "who are you?"

Privacy? Intimate things like weapon upgrades and challenge completion? Don't be ridiculous.
Your dialog example is so off the topic, even by BSN standarts. Manifest doesn't contain ANY personal information.
@Mindfane May the Force be with you wise man.

Edit:  1 typo


Different people have different definition for a lot of things. Just because you don't consider something intimate or private doesn't necessitate others to think the same. If you cannot even accept this point of view, then I've no words. 

I don't consider the game progression infomation of this game valuable nor intimate. but the information of what I have in the game, how much time I've spent on this game IS private. A lot of information falls into this category, like how many pencils do you have in your bag, what breakfast did you have today? These information is probably worth nothing but still is private. If a friend of mine asks these questions I would probably tell them. But if some random guy asks you the same, would you answer? People have the right to say I just simply don't want you to know and you can do nothing about that, and any breach is ILLEGAL.

And I do think the game progression information can be sensitive to some people (not to me). Say someone has invested an enormous amount of time in MP. Others will judge him by this information alone. Maybe the OP doesn't care about what the others think, but you can't assume everyone else has the same mentality. People don't want to be judged, so this information could be sensitive. 

In my own case, I just think it's my stuff, it's mine to know. If you're my friend on origin, you can see everything. I just don't want some random rage kids to see what I have under the assumption that I might have been cheating. Report me if they want, I've got nothing to fear. But if someone thinks he's the BioWare representitive ME3 MP online cop, hell yeah I'm gonna tell them to F off and mind their own business. 

Modifié par Duke E, 06 février 2013 - 12:39 .

[RB26D3TT]

Duke E wrote...

RB26D3TT wrote...

Duke E wrote...

A: Oh dude, this house is huge! Hey, it's fenced, it should not be! I should be able to see through the window to check if there is anything valuable in there!
B: Huh... why would you wanna do that?
A: So I can report the owner if I see anything "too" valuable, to the police or to the anti-corruption agency!
B: Everyone is entitled to have their private and family life respected, except under the circumstances and conditions determined by the law. Who the heck do you think you are? Who gives you the right to breach others' privacy?
A: But this house seems too nice! I have to check!
B: Oh my...

I understand OP's view and why he proposed the no-hiding manifest, hell yeah I wanna report all those cheaters too. "If one's got nothing to hide, he shouldn't hide at all" is not a strong argument. Because one could argue that he's not hiding from authority but merely protecting his own privacy from the general public. One sure have the right to do just that.

What if I knock on someone's door and ask to see their stuff in their house? They probably would tell me to f*** off. If someone wants to see my manifest, I'll ask why? If you say you just want to see it, then I sure have to right to say, sorry you're not my friend, I don't want to show you. If you say that you suspect me of cheating, then I'll laugh and shrug: "who are you?"

Privacy? Intimate things like weapon upgrades and challenge completion? Don't be ridiculous.
Your dialog example is so off the topic, even by BSN standarts. Manifest doesn't contain ANY personal information.
@Mindfane May the Force be with you wise man.

Edit:  1 typo


Different people have different definition for a lot of things. Just because you don't consider something intimate or private doesn't necessitate others to think the same. If you cannot even accept this point of view, then I've no words. 

I don't consider the game progression infomation of this game valuable nor intimate. but the information of what I have in the game, how much time I've spent on this game IS private. A lot of information falls into this category, like how many pencils do you have in your bag, what breakfast did you have today? These information is probably worth nothing but still is private. If a friend of mine asks these questions I would probably tell them. But if some random guy asks you the same, would you answer? People have the right to say I just simply don't want you to know and you can do nothing about that, and any breach is ILLEGAL.

And I do think the game progression information can be sensitive to some people (not to me). Say someone has invested an enormous amount of time in MP. Others will judge him by this information alone. Maybe the OP doesn't care about what the others think, but you can't assume everyone else has the same mentality. People don't want to be judged, so this information could be sensitive. 

In my own case, I just think it's my stuff, it's mine to know. If you're my friend on origin, you can see everything. I just don't want some random rage kids to see what I have under the assumption that I might have been cheating. Report me if they want, I've got nothing to fear. But if someone thinks he's the BioWare representitive ME3 MP online cop, hell yeah I'm gonna tell them to F off and mind their own business. 

And I thought you have no words.

[Signuversum]

Chealec wrote...

Hey - computer games are way more serious than elections! At least your choices make an actual difference to the outcome in a computer game ... oh, wait ...

Like in real world, it's all in artistic integrity. Like in real world.

[xtorma]

You can't hide it from bioware, only from people who can't do a damn thing about it anyway.

[xandax86]

I personally dont care, but I can understand why some people would like it to be private.

[Fortack]

I would delete my manifest if possible, just so I don't have to see how much time of my life I've wasted playing this damn game.

[Duke E]

RB26D3TT wrote...

Duke E wrote...

RB26D3TT wrote...

Duke E wrote...

A: Oh dude, this house is huge! Hey, it's fenced, it should not be! I should be able to see through the window to check if there is anything valuable in there!
B: Huh... why would you wanna do that?
A: So I can report the owner if I see anything "too" valuable, to the police or to the anti-corruption agency!
B: Everyone is entitled to have their private and family life respected, except under the circumstances and conditions determined by the law. Who the heck do you think you are? Who gives you the right to breach others' privacy?
A: But this house seems too nice! I have to check!
B: Oh my...

I understand OP's view and why he proposed the no-hiding manifest, hell yeah I wanna report all those cheaters too. "If one's got nothing to hide, he shouldn't hide at all" is not a strong argument. Because one could argue that he's not hiding from authority but merely protecting his own privacy from the general public. One sure have the right to do just that.

What if I knock on someone's door and ask to see their stuff in their house? They probably would tell me to f*** off. If someone wants to see my manifest, I'll ask why? If you say you just want to see it, then I sure have to right to say, sorry you're not my friend, I don't want to show you. If you say that you suspect me of cheating, then I'll laugh and shrug: "who are you?"

Privacy? Intimate things like weapon upgrades and challenge completion? Don't be ridiculous.
Your dialog example is so off the topic, even by BSN standarts. Manifest doesn't contain ANY personal information.
@Mindfane May the Force be with you wise man.

Edit:  1 typo


Different people have different definition for a lot of things. Just because you don't consider something intimate or private doesn't necessitate others to think the same. If you cannot even accept this point of view, then I've no words. 

I don't consider the game progression infomation of this game valuable nor intimate. but the information of what I have in the game, how much time I've spent on this game IS private. A lot of information falls into this category, like how many pencils do you have in your bag, what breakfast did you have today? These information is probably worth nothing but still is private. If a friend of mine asks these questions I would probably tell them. But if some random guy asks you the same, would you answer? People have the right to say I just simply don't want you to know and you can do nothing about that, and any breach is ILLEGAL.

And I do think the game progression information can be sensitive to some people (not to me). Say someone has invested an enormous amount of time in MP. Others will judge him by this information alone. Maybe the OP doesn't care about what the others think, but you can't assume everyone else has the same mentality. People don't want to be judged, so this information could be sensitive. 

In my own case, I just think it's my stuff, it's mine to know. If you're my friend on origin, you can see everything. I just don't want some random rage kids to see what I have under the assumption that I might have been cheating. Report me if they want, I've got nothing to fear. But if someone thinks he's the BioWare representitive ME3 MP online cop, hell yeah I'm gonna tell them to F off and mind their own business. 

And I thought you have no words.

Oh my days. So you're saying I should have no words because of my statement "Just because you don't consider something intimate or private doesn't necessitate others to think the same. If you cannot even accept this point of view, then I've no words. "?

Imagine our lives under the reign of Your Majesty. Happy days.

You've already said you don't care what someone else has or what his builds are, so that means you just want to check their manifest to see if they have been cheating. How cynical, but that's your choice. 

Instead of this unthoughtful demand, a more realistic proposal would be that BioWare should periodically check the top 100 players of the leaderboard.  

[Cassandra Saturn]

guys, BioWare will not respond to threads that talks about BioWare with title "Biower"
*facepalms*

[ryanshowseason3]

Quite honestly I can't see why anyone would care strongly on either side of this argument. It's digital weapons, a timer and space money.

[Perlicka]

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Quite honestly I can't see why anyone would care strongly on either side of this argument. It's digital weapons, a timer and space money.

same

I value my privacy and trying to stay anonymous all the time , but manifest  ? feel free to watch , anyone , there's not too much to be seen anyway no personal info etc (played time is little personal, but still) 

[Alijah Green]

it's the police

[RB26D3TT]

Duke E wrote...

Instead of this unthoughtful demand, a more realistic proposal would be that BioWare should periodically check the top 100 players of the leaderboard. 

You got it all wrong. They have a handfull dealing with reports and yet you propose checking every country's top 100. Realistic my ass.

[KyreneZA]

[DukeEB]

I don't see why any manifest should be private. there is no PII there (personally identifiable information). I am for removing the option.

[Red Panda]

I dislike stalkers.

[Creator Limbs]

This thread implies that I am cheating and this is unacceptable. Processes terminated.

[Cirvante]

I like to stalk people on N7HQ ... while I chat with them.

[MisterEFQ]

The people throwing around the word "stalker" have never had to deal with a stalker. Stop using that word.

Other than that, if you want your manifest private, that is fine with me.

[Shephard-Commander909]

Yaknow what? This thread has inspired me to make my manifest private, maybe ill finally get some hate mail.