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[o Ventus]

JaegerBane wrote...

DatFlyWire wrote...

-Space teletransportation via biotics: N7 classes. A ball of stupid.

Not so much. Most of the biotic powers that 'teleport' their users are just the same technique used to shift vessels across space at FTL speeds. The thing is, moving from A to B at FTL speeds will look more or less instant when A and B are a few metres apart.

Vanguard Charge. That's what it would look like. Except for the Slayer and Fury, it appears to be more akin to Nightcrawler's teleporting.

Also, mind you, the Vanguard Charge is not FTL. 

[MrStoob]

On the 'solution' that the Reapers use, within the parameters given to them by the Leviathan:

AIs are machines, they cannot feel, they have no emotions, and mean nothing beyond their built purpose. Any emotions shown are emulated. This is a common perception for organics to have of AIs. AIs know this is how at least the majority of organics think of them. As such they feel threatened by all organics and regardless, AIs just see organics as matter; Organism? Rock? Sun? Water? All products of chemistry and the environment, all initially equal in value in their usefulness to an AI. Any emotions are irrelevant and just chemical processes. Organics know this is how at least the majority of AIs think of them. As such, there is a breaking point where one side feels so threatened by the other that total extinction will be considered. If pushed and due to their systematic nature and superiority, the AI could go beyond wiping out organisms to the point of constantly surveying the galaxy to extinguish any conditions that may nurture life, thus totally ending organic life in the galaxy and ensuring intelligent organic life never returns to challenge them. Without a permanent solution to this problem, the cycles must continue for organic life to persist in the galaxy.

In 'proper' sci-fi, this is not a new concept.

Modifié par MrStoob, 09 février 2013 - 03:24 .

[nos_astra]

MrStoob wrote...
AIs are machines, they cannot feel, they have no emotions, and mean nothing beyond their built purpose. Any emotions shown are emulated. This is a common perception for organics to have of AIs. AIs know this is how at least the majority of organics think of them. As such they feel threatened by all organics and regardless,

They feel threatened? AIs have the potential to be infinitely superior. They're also not limited by a need for things like air, food, water. Time means little to them. They could easily avoid pesky organics (after crushing the most aggressive ones).

(I suppose, if they are like the geth they'd probably stay out of sentimentality instead of leaving.)

AIs just see organics as matter; Organism? Rock? Sun? Water? All products of chemistry and the environment, all initially equal in value in their usefulness to an AI.

And they feel threatened by matter?

If pushed and due to their systematic nature and superiority, the AI could go beyond wiping out organisms to the point of constantly surveying the galaxy to extinguish any conditions that may nurture life, thus totally ending organic life in the galaxy and ensuring intelligent organic life never returns to challenge them.

Pushed by what? And how? Why waste ressources like that? Just leave the galaxy.

What could possibly happen to compel AIs to dedicate their existence to ensuring organic life will never crop up anywhere in one galaxy, an incomprehensively huge, yet tiny part of the universe?

I could see AIs pose an immediate danger to me, my family, my people, my species and therefore be wary of them.
But to organic life itself? No.

Without a permanent solution to this problem, the cycles must continue for organic life to persist in the galaxy.

Organic life usually persists well if left to its own devices.

Modifié par klarabella, 09 février 2013 - 08:12 .

[Maxster_]

humes spork wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

No matter how much you repeat your false assertion, it is still false.

I'll make this simple for you:

Are you asserting the Mass Effect codex does not discuss the thermal effect(s) of Reaper and Thanix weapons?

My dear comrade, if temperature of the projectile is higher than it's surrounding, that doesn't always mean that it is a thermal weapon.
Like, for example, bullet shot from a rifled gun.
Thermal component of overall damage of thanix cannon is insignificant.
Therefore, calling it a thermal weapon, and saying that it's power drastically reduced, because of heat dissipation - is making a false conclusion.

Do you really think that i have no proof when i make such statements? I'm not you

It's nice that you found a link discussing the kiloton equivalent of Reaper capital ship weapons when we're discussing destroyers. Still, it's something I suppose.

There is no data in codex about destroyers main and secondary guns.
And there is also no data about cruiser and frigate main and secondary.
But that doesn't mean that their guns are survivable by infantry or tanks.
For example, if SA cruiser's length is 2 times shorter than a dreadnought, it means power of it's main gun(spinal mounted) could be 2-4(assuming the mass of the projectile is also lowered) times lower than of a SA dreadnoughts.

My dear comrade, you discussing exactly that...Have you any idea about kinetic energy, and inelastic collisions?

Yet again, I suggest you re-read my initial post with a higher level of detail and scrutiny. I'm not discussing thermal energy transfer away from the projectile as it is fired, nor thermal energy generated by the impact though you are correct, additional thermal energy would be created by the impact itself.

Hint: what happens to all that molten and superelastic (since fractions of a second at relativistic speeds with only radiation to cause heat loss would not be sufficient to allow a phase transition from liquid to solid, regardless what the codex would like to state) metal once it's shot into a target?

unrelated, of course.

Firing such a weapon in atmosphere is a whole different bag of cats,
since heat can be (very rapidly) conducted and convected away as well,
which means such a thermal weapon would be dramatically less effective
in an atmosphere than in vacuum since targets can sink heat much faster
in atmosphere than in vacuum, perhaps even weaker than a corresponding
mass driver the entirety of its destructive power lies in impact force.
And to think some of you may wonder why that Alliance cruiser in the
prologue had such a slugfest with a Reaper when in later scenes in space
they get instagibbed.

Your post, with false conclusion.
Namely, "Firing such a weapon in atmosphere is a whole different bag of cats,
since heat can be (very rapidly) conducted and convected away as well,
which means such a thermal weapon would be dramatically less effective
in an atmosphere than in vacuum since targets can sink heat much faster
in atmosphere than in vacuum"

No matter how many times you'll repeat your false conclusion, thanix is not a thermal weapon. Almost entirety of thanix shot's destructive power lies in impact force.
Thermal component is insignificant, therefore even significant heat dissipation will not significantly change destructive power of such shot.
Therefore, your entire post is void. False. Not an explanation.