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[thehomeworld]

David7204 wrote...

No. The guy is absolutely stupid. Do
you know where the word "Earth" comes from? A quick google etymology
search reveals it comes from the Old English word 'eorþe' meaning
""ground, soil, dry land." Yet the Earth is 80% covered by water. A word
meaning dry land used to describe a planet that's 75% water.

Is
that a retcon? Is that LOLZ BAD WRITING? Is that ROFLPLOT HOLE POLT
HOLE? Or is that simply the stupidly obvious way the languages and words
form and exist?

Sure you could say bad writing when you aren't looking at what Tali said back in ME what the admirals imply in ME2. That doesn't excuse the fact it was portrayed one way then made another. We knew back in ME Tuchanka was crap, the Asari homeworld was a great technological playground we got both of those in ME3 so why not Rannoch? Those worlds didn't deviate from what the characters told us of them only this world.

Also Eath TODAY is made more of water then land go back several thousand years we had way more viable land river shift, tides change, oceans rise and fall, land was uncovered and recovered we have cities in the ocean and they didnt' get there because of damns or earthquakes they got there becasue the sea level rose over them.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 06 février 2013 - 08:43 .

[fiendishchicken]

David7204 wrote...

No. The guy is absolutely stupid. Do you know where the word "Earth" comes from? A quick google etymology search reveals it comes from the Old English word 'eorþe' meaning ""ground, soil, dry land." Yet the Earth is 80% covered by water. A word meaning dry land used to describe a planet that's 75% water.

Is that a retcon? Is that LOLZ BAD WRITING? Is that ROFLPLOT HOLE POLT HOLE? Or is that simply the stupidly obvious way the languages and words form and exist?

I think the context of the word 'Earth' is completely separated from the games domain.

In the context of the game, Rannoch is the Quarian word for 'Walled Garden'

As I said, it's a nitpick, and not one that bothers me, but he's well within his right to point it out.

And on the side, truth be said, I, and many others, think you're completely full of it as well. And we're all right. You are.

[David7204]

thehomeworld wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Boy, are there some incredibly stupid complaints here.

Rannoch is now a 'retcon' because it's name means 'walled garden"? Are you kidding me?

Tali clearly explains to us in ME how it is. Her terms weren't past tense like what we knew of the world 300 years ago she talks in the present like it still is in that state and she expexts it to be like that at anypoint in ME she could've said but it could be different now. She does't the way she speaks about her world implies it will be.  She also didn't say the geth used biochemical warfare on them that was also a retcon and adding for BW to explain why we get a desert. Tali would've known this fact so would the admirals why would they be fighting in ME2 to get back a crappy world that will take forever to terraform? The admirals could've also ordered a drone to fly in there and scope out the world's state to see if it was worth it I would if I was going for a long distant world of mythology make sure our prize is worth all the losses we're about to encure over it.

How many people are fighting over the sahara right now? No one, why because its a peice of sandy crap you can't thrive out there w/o pumping in loads of water like California did and even then that takes time. Its realestate  noone wants and then BW wants us to belive that based off of  I heard this part of the world had great soil before you let lose your biochemical warfare we're going to go to war over a barren land. 

Sorry not feesible even if they were desperiate picking a desert to call your home isn't worth it. They'd have an easier time colonizing one of the other worlds they looked at now that the council is too busy running from the reapers to personally order a nuke strike on them. At least those other worlds had life and were viable for them to survive on with minimal effort.

Do you have even the slightest idea how planetary ecosystems actually work? Or 'biochemical warfare,' for that matter? 

This is just utter nonsense. When does Tali or anyone else say if biochemical warfare was or wasn't used on the quarians?

[David7204]

fiendishchicken wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No. The guy is absolutely stupid. Do you know where the word "Earth" comes from? A quick google etymology search reveals it comes from the Old English word 'eorþe' meaning ""ground, soil, dry land." Yet the Earth is 80% covered by water. A word meaning dry land used to describe a planet that's 75% water.

Is that a retcon? Is that LOLZ BAD WRITING? Is that ROFLPLOT HOLE POLT HOLE? Or is that simply the stupidly obvious way the languages and words form and exist?

I think the context of the word 'Earth' is completely separated from the games domain.

In the context of the game, Rannoch is the Quarian word for 'Walled Garden'

As I said, it's a nitpick, and not one that bothers me, but he's well within his right to point it out.

And on the side, truth be said, I, and many others, think you're completely full of it as well. And we're all right. You are.

You can point it out all you like. But only as a slightly ironic word (something the English language is filled to the brim with.) It's absolutely not a 'retcon.' Or 'bad writing.' Or a 'plot hole.' Believe it or not, those words actually have defined meanings and aren't just for you to use as 'sentence enhancers' so you can pretend to yourself and others that you understand how stories work. 

[DeinonSlayer]

David7204 wrote...

Do you have even the slightest idea how planetary ecosystems actually work? Or 'biochemical warfare,' for that matter? 

This is just utter nonsense. When does Tali or anyone else say if biochemical warfare was or wasn't used on the quarians?

It's inferred. ME2 Legion says the Geth have spent three hundred years clearing "rubble and toxins from the Morning War," and when brought to Tuchanka, Legion observes that the Krogan bombed their own world into that condition, and that the Quarians were not so aggressive in the Morning War. Rannoch's codex entry says the Geth are repairing "ecological damage" from the war - which, again, ended centuries ago, lasted a single year (per the timestamps in the Consensus footage) and claimed over 99% of the Quarian population (per Revelation).

Where TheHomeworld is mistaken is that Rannoch was always arid. It's closer to its sun than Earth is, with less water. Pockets of vegitation and large expanses of desert. Hence the name. There was no retcon.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 06 février 2013 - 08:53 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

fiendishchicken wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No. The guy is absolutely stupid. Do you know where the word "Earth" comes from? A quick google etymology search reveals it comes from the Old English word 'eorþe' meaning ""ground, soil, dry land." Yet the Earth is 80% covered by water. A word meaning dry land used to describe a planet that's 75% water.

Is that a retcon? Is that LOLZ BAD WRITING? Is that ROFLPLOT HOLE POLT HOLE? Or is that simply the stupidly obvious way the languages and words form and exist?

I think the context of the word 'Earth' is completely separated from the games domain.

In the context of the game, Rannoch is the Quarian word for 'Walled Garden'

As I said, it's a nitpick, and not one that bothers me, but he's well within his right to point it out.

And on the side, truth be said, I, and many others, think you're completely full of it as well. And we're all right. You are.

well even this tiny tiny nitpick can only made some sense if you had seen all of Rannoch - planets do after all have varied climates, Just because the base is in a rocky desert region doesn't mean all the planet is like that - just see how varied climates we have here on Earth.

[fiendishchicken]

David7204 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No. The guy is absolutely stupid. Do you know where the word "Earth" comes from? A quick google etymology search reveals it comes from the Old English word 'eorþe' meaning ""ground, soil, dry land." Yet the Earth is 80% covered by water. A word meaning dry land used to describe a planet that's 75% water.

Is that a retcon? Is that LOLZ BAD WRITING? Is that ROFLPLOT HOLE POLT HOLE? Or is that simply the stupidly obvious way the languages and words form and exist?

I think the context of the word 'Earth' is completely separated from the games domain.

In the context of the game, Rannoch is the Quarian word for 'Walled Garden'

As I said, it's a nitpick, and not one that bothers me, but he's well within his right to point it out.

And on the side, truth be said, I, and many others, think you're completely full of it as well. And we're all right. You are.

You can point it out all you like. But only as a slightly ironic word (something the English language is filled to the brim with.) It's absolutely not a 'retcon.' Or 'bad writing.' Or a 'plot hole.' Believe it or not, those words actually have defined meanings and aren't just for you to use as 'sentence enhancers' so you can pretend to yourself and others that you understand how stories work. 

Attacking me for a perceived miss of information just makes you an ass dude.

[Stalker]

Cutscene-magic and stupidity. I hate it.

- Soldiers, no matter if Alliance or Cerberus die from a single shot out of nowhere. It's weird how you need a whole clip to take down shields and life in the gameplay, but every protection magically disappears as soon as the cutscene starts. Most stupid example is a certain cutscene in the Omega DLC where Nyreen takes down Cerberus troopers with a single, non-biotic punch in the stomach. It's not like they are genetically engineered shock-troopers with top-equipment or anything...

- At the end of "Jacob's mission" there is a ridiculous amount of soldiers (I estimate ~50) shooting at Shepard on the open field and none of them hits even once... on a distance of roughly 20m. Are they blind, retarded or anything? I could hit him for god's sake.

- Leng's fight scene both with Thane and on the shuttle. Needless to say everyone kinda acts retarded there.

I don't like it if gameplay and cutscenes are seperated like that and was put off so many times by the stupidity of it.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 06 février 2013 - 09:38 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Cutscene-magic and stupidity. I hate it.

- At the end of "Jacob's mission" there is a ridiculous amount of soldiers (I estimate ~50) shooting at Shepard on the open field and none of them hits even once... on a distance of roughly 20m. Are they blind, retarded or anything? I could hit him for god's sake.

Faceless grunts, white armour, always conveniently missing any plot important characters. 

Sounds familiar. 

[DirtySHISN0]

Eezo, that is all.

[Wayning_Star]

ME "Fan" posts, take this OP for examples..lol

[Der Zeitgeist]

Bad King wrote...

Cerberus's attack on the Citadel. How the hell did they bypass the Citadel fleet with all those mechs and gunships?!

This one is actually explained in the cutscene leading to Priority: The Citadel II.
Cerberus took over the Citadel's traffic control. Then I imagine they just gave landing clearance to the waiting civilian freighters they loaded up with gunships, Kodiaks and everything else.

[MegaSovereign]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Cutscene-magic and stupidity. I hate it.

- At the end of "Jacob's mission" there is a ridiculous amount of soldiers (I estimate ~50) shooting at Shepard on the open field and none of them hits even once... on a distance of roughly 20m. Are they blind, retarded or anything? I could hit him for god's sake.

Faceless grunts, white armour, always conveniently missing any plot important characters. 

Sounds familiar. 

Gosh, it's slipping my mind....Was it called...Space Wars? Or something? Nonono. Star Warfare?

[Applepie_Svk]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Cutscene-magic and stupidity. I hate it.

- At the end of "Jacob's mission" there is a ridiculous amount of soldiers (I estimate ~50) shooting at Shepard on the open field and none of them hits even once... on a distance of roughly 20m. Are they blind, retarded or anything? I could hit him for god's sake.

Faceless grunts, white armour, always conveniently missing any plot important characters. 

Sounds familiar. 

And then you are hearing TIM saying that this is the way that humanity must evolve ! Well so since a synthesis ending I guess every optician get really big paycheque to fix what Shepard screw by choosing that crap,,, 

[The Night Mammoth]

MegaSovereign wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Cutscene-magic and stupidity. I hate it.

- At the end of "Jacob's mission" there is a ridiculous amount of soldiers (I estimate ~50) shooting at Shepard on the open field and none of them hits even once... on a distance of roughly 20m. Are they blind, retarded or anything? I could hit him for god's sake.

Faceless grunts, white armour, always conveniently missing any plot important characters. 
Sounds familiar. 

Gosh, it's slipping my mind....Was it called...Space Wars? Or something? Nonono. Star Warfare?

Space Jam, is what you're thinking of.

[TurianRebel212]

The entire decision chamber is the epiphany of an enigma. I'm not saying the ending choices- those are just dumb. What I'm saying is the catalyst taking the avatar of the kid, shep breathing in space, shep surviving the explosion, The catalyst's logic- especially if you save the geth AND quarian. To take the end of the game as 'real' or at face value requires a tremendous amount of suspension of disbelief.

[BirdsallSa]

You know, it's a funny thing... Logic in stories not only makes them more realistic, but generally, better accepted by the fans. For instance, many people are citing problems with the Citadel coup (How did Cerberus get that ridiculous amount of soldiers in etc...). Non-coincidentally, the Citadel coup is one of the least liked parts of the game for many people.

I actually liked it during my first playthrough, which I did not analyze heavily. However, when given any though whatsoever, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense why it should happen, doesn't make sense how it happened and nothing tried to make it sensical after it had happened.

[battfinkz]

never mind the plotholes, how come shepard was alive at all in ME3, how didnt he burn up into a patato chip upon entering the atmosphere of that planet he died on in the start of ME2? lol

[adayaday]

hallidio wrote...

Wrong, if I enjoy a movie I don't go over it with a fine tooth comb. If i don't like it, I dont watch it again and don't post on forums about it. Shimplez

IT is a piece of fiction, even the best such as Tolkien had lore breakers and plot holes.....so what

Yes every form of fiction has its on plot holes and such,its just that ME3 has so many inconsisties,contrived,lore breaking and plot holes that you can go over a scene with a single toothed comb and still get a handfull of those.

[KevShep]

battfinkz wrote...

never mind the plotholes, how come shepard was alive at all in ME3, how didnt he burn up into a patato chip upon entering the atmosphere of that planet he died on in the start of ME2? lol

His death at the begining of ME2 was because it was going to be apart of the dark energy plot by Drew.

Drew's plot direction for two ENITRE games was caned after Drew was sent to SWTOR and Casey H made a WHOLE NEW plot that does not make any sense at all when compared to the other two games.

Modifié par KevShep, 07 février 2013 - 01:08 .

[battfinkz]

KevShep wrote...

battfinkz wrote...

never mind the plotholes, how come shepard was alive at all in ME3, how didnt he burn up into a patato chip upon entering the atmosphere of that planet he died on in the start of ME2? lol

His death at the begining of ME2 was because it was going to be apart of the dark energy plot by Drew.

Drew's plot direction for two ENITRE games was caned after Drew was sent to SWTOR and Casey H made a WHOLE NEW plot that does not make any sense at all when compared to the other two games.

ooooh, didnt know. 

[BleedingUranium]

NinjaTurtle12 wrote...

2.Bullets in ME universe
This is bugging me since ME1,you can see bullet being fired from gun,impact crater and empy shells droping fom Typhoon but you never see soldier putting one single bullet in the gun,really wierd

What? Guns have always fired bullets in ME. Go read the Codex again.

As for the Typhoon, those are not shell casings, they're either mini heatsinks or some form of specialized ammunition, similar to the Falcon.

3.The Catalyst and The Kid,true form of Catalyst and the Pawns
How did Reapers knowed about Kid and why is he used for hologram of Catalyst.Is Citadel herself Catalyst?Catalyst must have some kind of hardware,and hardware who stores memories of galaxy must be huge.Why Catalyst do not use Pawns for reinforcements of true Reapers?
4.Breathing on citadel
Turians,humans,krogans and salarians do not use same mix of gas for breathing,but on citadel they all walk without masks and inhale same mix,but they can breathe normall

Those are very good questions. Everyone would do well to think about them more.

[KevShep]

BleedingUranium wrote...

NinjaTurtle12 wrote...

2.Bullets in ME universe
This is bugging me since ME1,you can see bullet being fired from gun,impact crater and empy shells droping fom Typhoon but you never see soldier putting one single bullet in the gun,really wierd

What? Guns have always fired bullets in ME. Go read the Codex again.

As for the Typhoon, those are not shell casings, they're either mini heatsinks or some form of specialized ammunition, similar to the Falcon.

3.The Catalyst and The Kid,true form of Catalyst and the Pawns
How did Reapers knowed about Kid and why is he used for hologram of Catalyst.Is Citadel herself Catalyst?Catalyst must have some kind of hardware,and hardware who stores memories of galaxy must be huge.Why Catalyst do not use Pawns for reinforcements of true Reapers?
4.Breathing on citadel
Turians,humans,krogans and salarians do not use same mix of gas for breathing,but on citadel they all walk without masks and inhale same mix,but they can breathe normall

Those are very good questions. Everyone would do well to think about them more.

No, in ME1 the codex says that the guns fire from a small metal block that the gun takes shards of that metal and mass accelerates it. This is how each gun fires 1000 rounds without having to reload.

Modifié par KevShep, 07 février 2013 - 01:25 .

[o Ventus]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Space Jam, is what you're thinking of.

The one starring Michael Jackson, right? With the Disney characters?

[BleedingUranium]

KevShep wrote...

No, in ME1 the codex says that the guns fire from a small metal block that the gun takes shards of that metal and mass accelerates it. This is how each gun fires 1000 rounds without having to reload.

Yes, bullets. Bullets, not cartridges. Haven't you ever heard a railgun/coilgun before? Often called a MAC? That's what ME guns are. They fire really small bullets, but much, much faster than modern guns, so they hit with the same, or more, force.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 février 2013 - 01:33 .