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[Dragoonlordz]

DAO. I play on PC using K/M so the more isometric slower pace was better than the quite limited view restriction plus gamepad style over the top hyperactivity of the second game. They said the the combat in next game will be a blend of the two, this may be okay but time will tell.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 07 février 2013 - 02:10 .

[DragonMage95]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

DA:O.

EDIT: Well, actually, DA:O for Warriors and Rogues, and DA2 for Mages. Not an option, so...DA:O.

Yeah I liked the old DA:O combat for warriors and etc. but I really liked the DA2 combat for mages, mages in DA:O were to slow in combat for my taste. Maybe if the mixed the DA:O combat with DA2 combat could be cooler.

[Rawgrim]

Da:O by a mile. Allthough it wasn`t perfect in that game either.

[Giant ambush beetle]

DAO. DA2 combat felt like watching a video tape of a power rangers episode in fast forward mode.

[Renmiri1]

DA2

DAO was nearly unplayable to me. I hate strategy / pause in the middle / chess like "combat". Immersion breaking to me. I'm a WoW raider and love mashing my buttons

Modifié par Renmiri1, 07 février 2013 - 02:35 .

[Siegdrifa]

Depend about what...
For 2 handed warriors, DA2 was far more enjoyable than DAO (OMG, how long it took to make 1 animation and getting a "miss" 3 time out of 5... it was really pissing me off, especialy after i made my second character a rogue, a real killing machine).

For mage... mhe... i found the arcan mage of DAO so enjoyable that i couldn't had fun with any mage in DA2.

[JWvonGoethe]

Preferred DA:O, minus the shuffle (which mostly affected warriors.) The skill trees and specialisations were more engaging in DA:O too, though I'm not sure if that falls under the remit of 'combat.'

And I agree with Siegdrifa - arcane warrior, though seriously overpowered, was definitely the most entertaining class to play as in DA:O.

[Aurelet]

I wasn't playing a Ninja so I preferred Origins. Though it was a little slow.

[Starfang]

I liked both. I liked that DAO was more tactical and I liked that DA2's animations were faster, so there was no awkward shuffling, and I actually liked some of the crazy moves rogues bust out. They were fun.

So, something in between would be golden.

[Psile_01]

They had their strengths and weaknesses. Overall, DA2 was more fun but I thought that DA:O required more intellect which is something I crave in an RPG. I would like the see a more blended style between the two with more emphasis on team work. The spell combos in DA:O were powerful, I liked the idea of extending it to all the classes in DA2, but that ultimately failed to deliver as I just spammed Attack the whole time even as a mage. Perhaps if they could dial it back a bit and add a little more combos and such. I didn't really love either of them.

[Armorat]

Kiatta wrote...

I liked both. I liked that DAO was more tactical and I liked that DA2's animations were faster, so there was no awkward shuffling, and I actually liked some of the crazy moves rogues bust out. They were fun.

So, something in between would be golden.

Was gonna say exactly the same thing. Miss the tactics and strategy of the old, but the new had some hella fun stuff. Shooting across the entire battlefield with Assassinate and Vendetta was pretty damn awesome.

[Xerxes52]

I'd give DA:O the slight edge imo. The combat was a little too slow for my liking, but overall it was great. The whole shuffling thing was an annoyance, but not a game breaker.

One thing that worked in DA:O (that DA2 somehow lost) was if you tried using a melee attack or ability outside its normal range, the controlled party member would actually get into range and use the ability rather than comically shouting "What do you want me to do, shout at them?" or some other nonsense.

Also your controlled party member would automatically acquire another target after you killed the previous one without having to look directly at said target. In DA2, I have to swing the camera around to another target to get my character to start attacking, whereas in DA:O if someone was outside of my line of sight (say, behind me) my character would lock on and start attacking anyway. Basically I could look around the battlefield while fighting enemies at the same time.

[Reidbynature]

I preferred Origins. I had more options in battle and didn't feel like I was forced to spam X on the PS3 gamepad so I could wait for my powers to cool down.  I felt like in Origins I could actually plan my attacks and defenses in battle, whereas DA2 felt like I shouldn't be able to pause and think about it.

Also, I just can't stand the mage attack animation. They're mages, not Shaolin monks. I think if you want mages to fight in melee combat then give players the option to fight like Gandalf in LotR with both sword and staff in separate hands and not a bladed staff like they're trained in Kung Fu.

Although I do appreciate that companions were now smart enough to use AoE spells and powers in battle in DA2 and not require me to constantly target things for them and have those abilities unused at times.  Though I admit that I do like to manually control my companions in battle more in Origins.

Modifié par Reidbynature, 07 février 2013 - 05:00 .

[Plaintiff]

AshenShug4r wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...
Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Anyone who likes redheads to brunettes is wrong.
Anyone who prefers tea to coffee is wrong.
Anyone who prefers football to baseball is wrong.

derp.

Yes, that is how opinions work. You get a gold star.

I'm not saying anything that other people aren't saying in respect to their own opinions. I notice you aren't calling any of them out about it.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 07 février 2013 - 05:13 .

[Plaintiff]

mickey111 wrote...
I bet that that the executions were your favourite part of DAO combat because it looked cool, nevermind the fact that the 10 seconds it took to do the move was incredibly detrimental to the odds of you winning the battle.

No, the excutions were slow and boring and they did not look cool.

And the dw rogues in DAO could attack something like 10 times in 6 or 7 seconds, how can anybody call that slow? The two handers were slow but putting your back into a big overhead swing should take a long time, the alternative is to swing around a jRPG style comically large sword as if it were made of paper.

Ain't nothin' wrong with JRPGs.

[Face of Evil]

motomotogirl wrote...

DA2 by a landslide! I played DA2 first, and when I went back and played DA:O it was like wading through molasses!

Yeah, I have to agree with this one.

I enjoyed DAO's combat back in its day, but I've gone back and I find the combat to be too slow. I ground my teeth every time I missed an enemy. I like that bombs are now accessible to everyone and that poisons actually last more than 30 seconds. DA2's combat needs some work, but I think we're headed in the right direction.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 07 février 2013 - 05:20 .

[Wompoo]

Neither, both had their issue, however the animations of DA2 were over the top and just plain silly at times. Would prefer a balance some where in the middle, less flash more substance to them.

[samgurl775]

Neither are very good, but I liked Origins more.

[tishyw]

I preferred the combat in Origins. I didn't like the ninja jumping/spinning/zooming and the excessive amount of sparkly explosions that were in DA2.
I also hated the fact that they removed the ability to properly place AOE spells for the PC version, they claimed it was a bug but it was never fixed.

Edited for clarity.

Modifié par tishyw, 07 février 2013 - 05:45 .

[Wolfva2]

ME3.

Wait, that's not an option. Crap. Ok then; I guess DA2. I liked the rogue animations, and that I could leap several feet to attack an opponent as opposed to strenuously plodding to him like an over loaded ox. The combat just seemed faster. Though I do think some amalgam of the 2 might be interesting.

[imbs]

Renmiri1 wrote...

DA2

DAO was nearly unplayable to me. I hate strategy / pause in the middle / chess like "combat". Immersion breaking to me. I'm a WoW raider and love mashing my buttons

I don't understand why you throw around the fact that you are a wow raider as if that means something in particular. Any player can become a wow raider at any time, and it isn't only button mashers that do it.

OT: DA:O combat is clearly superior to DA2 combat by any meaningful attributes at all, unless you enjoy the illusion of speed due to the absurd auto attack. Preferring DA2 combat is one thing, but actually believing DA2 combat is better would make you wrong shoutout to my fan plaintiff xxx

[The Night Haunter]

I'd like DA2 if it was less animeish and if it didnt have gravity defying stunts. Particularly giant two-handed swords that swing like daggers.

[Plaintiff]

imbs wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

DA2

DAO was nearly unplayable to me. I hate strategy / pause in the middle / chess like "combat". Immersion breaking to me. I'm a WoW raider and love mashing my buttons

I don't understand why you throw around the fact that you are a wow raider as if that means something in particular. Any player can become a wow raider at any time, and it isn't only button mashers that do it.

OT: DA:O combat is clearly superior to DA2 combat by any meaningful attributes at all, unless you enjoy the illusion of speed due to the absurd auto attack. Preferring DA2 combat is one thing, but actually believing DA2 combat is better would make you wrong shoutout to my fan plaintiff xxx

"Meaningful attributes" like what?

[Catfish Shotgun]

Strategy > Telling the party to just run up an do their thing against copy-paste enemies wave after wave.
DA:O easy.
Btw guys, animation =/= combat. Obviously DA3's going to have improved animations, so there's really no point using that as a tip in DA2's favour, JS.

[Catfish Shotgun]

Catfish Shotgun wrote...

Strategy > Telling the party to just run up an do their thing against copy-paste enemies wave after wave.
DA:O easy.
Btw guys, flashy animation =/= combat. Obviously DA3's going to have improved animations, so there's really no point using that as a tip in DA2's favour, JS.