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[Geek]

Air Quotes wrote...

Well it's definetely more interesting and more challenging to do it without rockets. And even more so without grenades. 

You are clearly not the target audience for a tutorial like this. Maybe you should put together a no rocket no grenade tutorial.

[Bechter]

Air Quotes wrote...

We did 9-10 minute Glacier speed-runs no problem. Did similar on Goddess and White. It's nothing too hard. Even without mics. 

Those are all great times but I assume you used rockets/grenades so they aren't legit . I bet those are even gold times.

No rockets/grenades on plat with pics/vid or no care

I also remember a certain someone who was doing 14min glacier speed runs when they were still learning. I guess you didn't know how to rocket correctly.

Modifié par Bechter, 07 février 2013 - 08:51 .

[Bechter]

Air Quotes wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

@Air Quotes: Opinion, not fact. I have done plenty of games pretty much any way you can imagine (melee only being a no grenade one), every single different way can be interesting. More challenging? Not really, just a bit more time consuming.

@Geekfest: I think I get a Supply Pylon kill in extraction during that video.

 

It's not an opinion. It's fact. Period. Killing enemies purely with weapons and powers is harder and a lot more things can go wrong than just whipping out a rocket launcher and nuking everything x8.

You've been linked to 4 seperate no rocket videos throughout this thread and non of them were anymore challenging that the one in the OP.

[Bechter]

Air Quotes wrote...

Of course we used grenades and missiles. And that's why we don't call them legit. Speedruns with rockets are like solos with Kroguard +Reegar vs Geth. It's just true. 

I think you need to look up the definition of legit because you are using it incorrectly.

Air Quotes wrote...

And they are much more interesting. 

That is subjective and I was never debating interesting. A speedrun is not measured on a scale of what is interesting to you. We were simplying going for the fastest to possible in the most effective way.

Modifié par Bechter, 07 février 2013 - 09:01 .

[SlimJim0725]

Air Quotes wrote...

Bechter wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

@Air Quotes: Opinion, not fact. I have done plenty of games pretty much any way you can imagine (melee only being a no grenade one), every single different way can be interesting. More challenging? Not really, just a bit more time consuming.

@Geekfest: I think I get a Supply Pylon kill in extraction during that video.

 

It's not an opinion. It's fact. Period. Killing enemies purely with weapons and powers is harder and a lot more things can go wrong than just whipping out a rocket launcher and nuking everything x8.

You've been linked to 4 seperate no rocket videos throughout this thread and non of them were anymore challenging that the one in the OP.

 

And they are much more interesting. 

More interesting for you? Yes. More interesting for everyone else? No. Every person has a different opinion as I said before, quit acting like your opinion is law.

Killing enemies in this game whether it is with guns or with powers is really no more difficult than it is with a rocket. Is it quicker for me to use the rocket? Yes. Is it any more difficult? No, because the AI in this game is really not difficult by any means. Then again I come from a PvP background where I played people that could think and change tactics on the fly rather than only facing bots.

[Bechter]

Air Quotes wrote...

Bechter wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Of course we used grenades and missiles. And that's why we don't call them legit. Speedruns with rockets are like solos with Kroguard +Reegar vs Geth. It's just true. 

I think you need to look up the definition of legit because you are using it incorrectly.

 

You know what I mean. 4 Volus with Eagles on Glacier/no rockets is a lot more interesting and fun than 4 pre-nerf GI's with pre-nerf Krysaes and rockets.  

it may be a shock to you but some people might have a different opinion than you. I had alot of fun with my Krysae GI before Bioware to the nerf bat to them after our videos. Oh how i miss the:(

You may enjoy watching the one legged 100 yard dash

I'll take Usain Bolt at the London Olypics.

Modifié par Bechter, 07 février 2013 - 09:08 .

[SlimJim0725]

Oh yeah Bechter, here is one more you forgot (one of your own):

Asari on Goddess, no missiles

[Bechter]

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Oh yeah Bechter, here is one more you forgot (one of your own):

Asari on Goddess, no missiles

I edited in my dagger post earlier but thanks for looking out. I need all the help I can get here we got a live one.

[SlimJim0725]

Bechter wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Oh yeah Bechter, here is one more you forgot (one of your own):

Asari on Goddess, no missiles

I edited in my dagger post earlier but thanks for looking out. I need all the help I can get here we got a live one.

Ahh, didn't go back any pages to notice that honestly. Anyways, trolls will be trolls! I think I am calling it a night, I have to wake up in like 6 or so hours to start my day. Have fun with this one and whenever I make a return I will be sure to hit you up if I see you online.

[HolyAvenger]

I think the most boring thing about speed runs is the practising. Same map and enemy, time and time again? Uggh.

Good vid though.

[Bechter]

Air Quotes wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

air quotes, let me get this straight. you say that using missiles and grenades is not "legit", then say you have used them in speedruns in support of your argument (contradictory/hypocritical). you then state your opinion of non missile speedruns, as more interesting. fine, but that's your opinion, it's not fact. it's true to YOU, as it is YOUR opinion. now, please, please go to school. you are not going to win this argument as you are far too stupid. THAT is a fact

 

We did a long time ago and stopped quickly because it was stupid. 

And you guys have a bad case of peasantitis - still doing rocket runs 6 months after. 

Enjoy your records - no one cares. 

Stay classy

This was a tutorial and is not a record. We didn't realize any noob could do this and this wasn't approved by the decider of ME3 Air Qoutes. We will be sure to get all future speed runs Air Qoutes approved. No need to pay attention to the many players we are helping with these video tutorials.

[INVADERONE]

Air Quotes wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

air quotes, let me get this straight. you say that using missiles and grenades is not "legit", then say you have used them in speedruns in support of your argument (contradictory/hypocritical). you then state your opinion of non missile speedruns, as more interesting. fine, but that's your opinion, it's not fact. it's true to YOU, as it is YOUR opinion. now, please, please go to school. you are not going to win this argument as you are far too stupid. THAT is a fact

 

We did a long time ago and stopped quickly because it was stupid. 

And you guys have a bad case of peasantitis - still doing rocket runs 6 months after. 

Enjoy your records - no one cares. 

Just out of curiosity. Why did you go this route on your responses? I thought it was clear that this was a tutorial guide and that there were many others coming, some of which may contain no spawn nuking. Did this seem like an epeen thread or one claiming best time? I just can't tell where even that may have been implied.

[Bechter]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I think the most boring thing about speed runs is the practising. Same map and enemy, time and time again? Uggh.

Good vid though.

Most of these runs have been accomplished in 5 runs or less. This is from the forming of the strategy to our current best time. We don't want to grind on a single map. Some maps infact we have only done one run on plat to get a sub 12 min time.

[SlimJim0725]

Air Quotes wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

air quotes, let me get this straight. you say that using missiles and grenades is not "legit", then say you have used them in speedruns in support of your argument (contradictory/hypocritical). you then state your opinion of non missile speedruns, as more interesting. fine, but that's your opinion, it's not fact. it's true to YOU, as it is YOUR opinion. now, please, please go to school. you are not going to win this argument as you are far too stupid. THAT is a fact

 

We did a long time ago and stopped quickly because it was stupid. 

And you guys have a bad case of peasantitis - still doing rocket runs 6 months after. 

Enjoy your records - no one cares. 

Caught me before I sign off. Nobody cares what you think, you are trying to force your idea of "interesting" on other people. We linked multiple no missile runs that weren't any more "interesting" or "difficult" in our OPINION than our missile runs, they simply took more time.

You know something else that is a fact? You can decide not to post in threads that don't interest you rather than make yourself look like a jackass. BTW, peasantitis? I REALLY hope you are not serious. People will do what they enjoy and you can continue to go solo and QQ about Dragoons more. Bye now!

[HolyAvenger]

Bechter wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I think the most boring thing about speed runs is the practising. Same map and enemy, time and time again? Uggh.

Good vid though.

Most of these runs have been accomplished in 5 runs or less. This is from the forming of the strategy to our current best time. We don't want to grind on a single map. Some maps infact we have only done one run on plat to get a sub 12 min time.

See even that is too much for me. I did an armoured compartments "speedrun" on Glacier Plat (wasn't really a speedrun, we didn't have too much strategy or whatever). We did twice in a row, and I got bored.

If you can do it in 1, great.