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An apology, to Mr. Bryan Johnson


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#201
BjornDaDwarf

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palker wrote...

did not read the thread but this is probably relevant
http://www.pentadact...in-an-argument/


Well that's just fantastic and getting bookmarked.  

Somewhat off-topic, maybe, but I think I've been more of an a**hat on the BSN lately than I was a few months ago.  And some of it is exactly what Francis is describing there, combined with reading/reacting to a lot of the more volatile members here.  Less interest in being helpful or learning new/interesting things, and more interest in amusing myself with funny/mean remarks.  

Maybe another break for the BSN isn't a terrible idea, at least until the new DLC actually is released.

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WARMACHINE9 wrote...

I'm so happy this thread is still alive. Thanks to every one who has posted. To anwser a few questions A) this is not about me, I read the thread in question last night and started this thread because after what happened I know I would've needed some lovin' and I thought our most active dev deserved a little. B) as to what happened I haven't posted a link because a) I don't know how and B) I didn't want to sully this thread with that one(if you just gotta know there are a couple of links in the thread others have put in). C) Keep the love coming!!! Let Bryan and the other devs know how we feel, though sometimes we don't act like it.


the person that started it wasn't being mean either, others tainted his thread with their currupted minds and said things from a ignorant point of view and being bigots took the info they were given and twisted it

:crying:...I deal with this as a Autistic daily, I deal with this as a game designer and balancer, I deal with it as a tester, I hate it when sombody thnks it's as simple as a 2 piece puzzle, when it's really a massive puzzle that spans far and wide

Ignorant people and stupid people will believe the world revovles around them or that things are done in a snap and due to them buying a copy of the game they have demand of access...when it's like paying for a subscription

Illogical humans....<_<

Logic, Patience, Open Mindness all lost arts replaced by

Ignorance, Impatience, Bigotry

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 07 février 2013 - 08:11 .


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BjornDaDwarf wrote...

palker wrote...

did not read the thread but this is probably relevant
http://www.pentadact...in-an-argument/


Well that's just fantastic and getting bookmarked.  

Somewhat off-topic, maybe, but I think I've been more of an a**hat on the BSN lately than I was a few months ago.  And some of it is exactly what Francis is describing there, combined with reading/reacting to a lot of the more volatile members here.  Less interest in being helpful or learning new/interesting things, and more interest in amusing myself with funny/mean remarks.  

Maybe another break for the BSN isn't a terrible idea, at least until the new DLC actually is released.


Took the time to read through that. Glad I dit, it's going directly in my signature.

I'm guilty as charged of what is described, although I'd like to think that I do not do that often, and I actually strive not to do it.

And yes, I'm definitely doing it more than how much I was doing it when I joined the BSN.

A break would definitely help there and also give me more time for my real life... But I've never liked easy,drastic solutions. They're usually not optimal. I also like challenges.

I'll try to do that less, maybe not at all, and to spend less time over here at the same time.

#204
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I appreciate all of the devs that contribute to the forums and what they do. Maybe I'm off base, but I didn't really see what the big deal was of the horrible thread in question. It was a guy who was off base and using personal taunts trying to get a reaction...Child's play. Don't respond and let him fizzle out on his own.

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DragonRacer wrote...

Admiral Dreck wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...


And if another attack DOES happen, there's still a standing offer for me to go beat them up. No charge. LOL


You sound like you just really want to hit someone..Image IPB


Yeah, once you get the Mama Bear juices flowing, it's hard to un-rile yourself.


On that note, I'll try to not get on your bad side!Image IPB

P.S.  How did Cory's competition go?

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bumpity, bump,bump

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Admiral Dreck wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

Admiral Dreck wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...


And if another attack DOES happen, there's still a standing offer for me to go beat them up. No charge. LOL


You sound like you just really want to hit someone..Image IPB


Yeah, once you get the Mama Bear juices flowing, it's hard to un-rile yourself.


On that note, I'll try to not get on your bad side!Image IPB

P.S.  How did Cory's competition go?


Sadly, it seems like it's fizzled out. Half the remaining teams haven't bothered to submit Round 3 scores and Cory's not said a peep since supposedly taking it back over, so... *shrugs* Image IPB

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Blind2Society wrote...

What did I miss?


DLC was delayed....

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Brian is an awesome person. Even though I've not had the pleasure of playing with him he has proven that he is an active part of our community and listens to us. Some people should get their heads from their youknowwhere and apologize.

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WARMACHINE9 wrote...

bumpity, bump,bump


Oh, yes, you wanted more love.

All right.

*takes a deep breath*

I love BroJo, Derek, Nathan M., Eric, Chris P., Chris S., Jos, Ernest, Nathan P., and all the rest of you lurking in the shadows and not engaging in this madness known as BSN.

I love humanity.

I also love Asari, Quarian, Turian, Salarian, Hanar...

Image IPB

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Could someone please give me a summary of what this is about? Either post or PM is good, thanks. I'm just curious.

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Been playing this game since day one, and while the MP does have some frustrating aspects there is nothing in it that breaks the experience for me (and I do play entirely on Gold).

I read the thread in question and it took an unfortunate turn.

The BioWare folk that interact with us on this forum are all good people and their presence is appreciated.

Going to drop a $20 on some RPs tonight to show my continued support of the game, and to let the DEVs know they're appreciated.

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Rolenka wrote...

Could someone please give me a summary of what this is about? Either post or PM is good, thanks. I'm just curious.


Someone was throwing personal attacks at BioWare and, in particular, Bryan. And Jaimas more or less mocked him into just leaving.

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MattFini wrote...

Been playing this game since day one, and while the MP does have some frustrating aspects there is nothing in it that breaks the experience for me (and I do play entirely on Gold).

I read the thread in question and it took an unfortunate turn.

The BioWare folk that interact with us on this forum are all good people and their presence is appreciated.

Going to drop a $20 on some RPs tonight to show my continued support of the game, and to let the DEVs know they're appreciated.


I might do something similar, but I'm gonna wait until Reckoning is released (I do like to earn things for my troubles B))

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DragonRacer wrote...

Sadly, it seems like it's fizzled out. Half the remaining teams haven't bothered to submit Round 3 scores and Cory's not said a peep since supposedly taking it back over, so... *shrugs* Image IPB


Ohh sad.

Well I guess it wasn't all bad to get eliminated in the first round!Image IPB

Even if we (I and Tony) had gotten a higher score than SoV.. we would have had to face Cain and INVADERONE in round 2.. Not fun..Image IPB

To stay on topic..
I love BroJo yes I do!
I love Brojo how 'bout you?! Image IPB

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Rolenka wrote...

Could someone please give me a summary of what this is about? Either post or PM is good, thanks. I'm just curious.


TL:DR 
Somebody said for 17 pages the BW staff didn't do their jobs at all and insulted them which resulted BroJo to take some time off from BSN.

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First off, ANY dev who is willing to be a member of their community (for better, or worse) earns my accolades. Now ... onto the more important stuff.

So, how many games do you know of that have a strong following a year later? Out of those, extrapolate the number of gaming forums who STILL have the devs on the forum after that period of time. My experience tells me that the number is EXTREMELY low. So, why is ME3 such an exception?

To understand the rarity we must accept a few facts that we probably haven't previously considered.

First fact: Multiplayer is an ADD-ON to ME3. When the game first came out, people purchased it to play the single-player experience, not the multiplayer one. With that being the case, the game was NEVER meant to revolve around the MP experience. So, what happened?

Some might say Bioware screwed up, but in this case they did it in a GOOD way. As the SP experience was the heart of the game, I'm sure it received the lion's roar of the dev's attention. So where did the screw up occur? Well, with SP on the front burner they probably felt they had great breadth to experiment with the MP - after all, if it turned out bad, it would just be seen as an addition that went south and would soon be forgotten. However, that never happened. In fact, the MP turned out to be far better than most MP games out there. Like I said - a GOOD screw up!

Now, back to point ... all of the people who are complaining about this game are doing so because they LOVE it and because they want to see it continue to mature. They just aren't willing to see it go, and that is owed solidly to the efforts of the dev team that created it and have continued to maintain it. That's why the devs continue to come to the forums: because they realize they have made a runaway hit and they want to continue to mine data from the players to make it even better.

So, why then isn't everything being fixed? An excellent question.

First off ... many things players consider to be broke are preferences ... not actual bugs. For example, some players like a charged Acolyte versus those who like a chargeless Acolyte. Who is right? Neither party, as it's a preference, and it's impossible to please both camps.

As for certain factions being tough ... I see many players out there demanding a diamond mode to make the game even TOUGHER! The fact is, we don't all play at the same level, which is why we have bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. Truth be told, I think some of the complaining revolves around a few players who want more credits for less effort. I only just started to play gold, and I have yet to play platinum, but I would like to think that those players who regularly play both modes are some of the best out there and that they earn those credits.

Rocket glitching and other no-nos ... I have never met a rocket glitcher, and I don't want to ... but I won't stoop to blaming the devs because some players out there like to cheat. True, we should be able to ask the devs to edit this unwanted cheat out, but at the same time we need to fully understand that we are REALLY asking them to do this WITHOUT breaking any of the game's current mechanics .. and that's just not that simple with such a complex game. There is no 'deny rocket glitching' code, and for every fix they find to the problem, there are hundreds of players out there looking for a new exploit.

It's really easy to say, 'just place an option in the code to count the players missiles at the beginning of the match and to not let them fire any more than they started with: on top of that, allow a missile only every so many seconds. Sounds easy, right? Well, it isn't. It takes a lot of code to affect such a change, and that's a lot of code that could cause serious troubles elsewhere.

The fact is, the devs know they have a hit and they want to keep us goats folling the goat path until the next iteration of ME3. To do so, they are faced with the impossible task of keeping as many of us happy as they can until the next release (which I heard was somewhere in 2014).

To be able to keep us around for a year is commendable ... but for them to still be a part of the community a year later ... as angry a bunch as we can be ... is beyond committed. In fact, I gladly offer up my platinum fleeced straightjacket to all of the devs for putting up with us for so long.

Last, but not least ... Bryan is a human being, and an active member of this community (he plays the game, too). As a fellow player, we owe it to him to share a good game, rather than our animosity and anger.

I'd be honored to play in a match beside Bryan, but I don't expect him to honor me with his presence in a bronze or silver match, as that's below his current playing level. Still, I would love to watch him single-handedly rock a brute while simultaneously completing an objective and reviving a team member (I would probably be the one being revived).

If we want ME3 to mature, then we all need to mature as well. Don't offer up anger, as many do. Instead, offer up suggestions and allow the devs to decide what is and isn't plausible. After all, they code the game, so I am certain they know its limits. Then, when the day is done, go out and kick the asterisk out of a few Banshees.

I apologize for the length of this, but I don't post often, and when I do I like to say exactly what is on my mind (which takes some time).

To Bryan, and all the rest of the devs, thank you for making a game that I think truly rocks!

#218
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DragonRacer wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

bumpity, bump,bump

Oh, yes, you wanted more love.

All right.

*takes a deep breath*

I love BroJo, Derek, Nathan M., Eric, Chris P., Chris S., Jos, Ernest, Nathan P., and all the rest of you lurking in the shadows and not engaging in this madness known as BSN.

I love humanity.

I also love Asari, Quarian, Turian, Salarian, Hanar...
Image IPB

Whew!  She's not mad any more.  Don't like it when she's mad.

*slowly backs away from thread, not taking eyes off of DragonRacer, quietly closes door to internet ... then runs like hell*

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DullahansXMark wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Been playing this game since day one, and while the MP does have some frustrating aspects there is nothing in it that breaks the experience for me (and I do play entirely on Gold).

I read the thread in question and it took an unfortunate turn.

The BioWare folk that interact with us on this forum are all good people and their presence is appreciated.

Going to drop a $20 on some RPs tonight to show my continued support of the game, and to let the DEVs know they're appreciated.


I might do something similar, but I'm gonna wait until Reckoning is released (I do like to earn things for my troubles B))


I've got enough credits banked for the incoming DLC.

Tonight, I'll just be gambling with $20. Image IPB

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Hey Bryan, how about we round up a few of these pyjaks and head to a little place I know on Illium? I tell you, the ladies may be blue, but they'll keep your spirits up. 

:wizard::wizard::wizard:

Modifié par tMc Tallgeese, 07 février 2013 - 08:49 .


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MattFini wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Been playing this game since day one, and while the MP does have some frustrating aspects there is nothing in it that breaks the experience for me (and I do play entirely on Gold).

I read the thread in question and it took an unfortunate turn.

The BioWare folk that interact with us on this forum are all good people and their presence is appreciated.

Going to drop a $20 on some RPs tonight to show my continued support of the game, and to let the DEVs know they're appreciated.


I might do something similar, but I'm gonna wait until Reckoning is released (I do like to earn things for my troubles B))


I've got enough credits banked for the incoming DLC.

Tonight, I'll just be gambling with $20. Image IPB


As we speak I have enough for 40 PSPs, myself. An extra slew of packs to support BioWare never hurt anyone, though (and I like to think of it as "paying for the DLC", so I tend to not spend real money until those come out).

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DragonRacer wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

bumpity, bump,bump


Oh, yes, you wanted more love.

All right.

*takes a deep breath*

I love BroJo, Derek, Nathan M., Eric, Chris P., Chris S., Jos, Ernest, Nathan P., and all the rest of you lurking in the shadows and not engaging in this madness known as BSN.

I love humanity.

I also love Asari, Quarian, Turian, Salarian, Hanar...

Image IPB

LOL and touche Image IPB

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big respect to the devs that post here, appreciate any and all input, good news or closure.

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tMc Tallgeese wrote...

Hey Bryan, how about we round up a few of these pyjaks and head to a little place I know on Illium? I tell you, the ladies may be blue, but they'll keep your spirits up. 

:wizard::wizard::wizard:


That sounds a bit too much like a strange tale in an old inn with a couple of nugs.....

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 I post pretty rarely. I think I only have like 3, but I logged in for this. 

Gotta say, sometimes I'm not happy with some of the decisions Bioware makes. The ending, some of the nerfs, the Geth in genreal... But, I like being civilized, and that was really uncalled for and horrible.

And besides, I love Bioware, and I've loved them since Knights of the Old Republic. The good so drastically far outweighs the bad it's barely even comparable. And they take such an active part in their community, much much more than most other developers, and that's freaking awesome. Everytime I saw that blue Bioware tag on threads, it made me happy, even when I didn't actually read it, cause it lets me know that they're looking and listening. 
Love you, Bryan! No ******! ...:wub:

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