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[avenging_teabag]

In one thread people whine that the operation is too difficult. Right there on the same page in another thread people whine that the operation is too easy. That's BSN for you.

[Colonel Sheppard]

Play the game on Bronze and arc grenade everything. You can do this challenge in less than 2 Bronze solos. Total time: 20mins.

[ScottyF986]

I finished it with much ease with 2 solo bronze as the QME. Though my question is this.... how do they count the points? I finished the first match with over 100k points but said I had only 24k towards the operation. Then in the second match I finished with over 104k and finished the operation. It doesn't matter to me as I finished it easily but I was just curious as to how the points were counted.

[Felhand]

IV GOT MY BOOM STICK! I need nothing else.

[MoeRayShep]

The big problem here isn't that geth are hard, it's that BioWare didn't think through wave budgeting when they set the operation goal.
Ultimately the problem isn't that you have to fight a certain enemy
with a certain kit, but that it's an enemy type which you have to grind
for under obnoxious circumstances.
This is the same reason you end up having to grind husks to get Reaper Mastery or guardians to get Cerberus Mastery, especially for Gold+ players-- there aren't that many of them, and they aren't worth a whole lot when you get them.

In order to get more troopers, you have to scale down to Bronze-- but that also reduces the point value. You can increase points by setting to Unknown, but you can only do that on map type since the operation requires a specific enemy.

If they had just required something like 150k points vs. any geth or 100k points vs. hunters, pyros, and rocket troops (since mid-level mooks spawn pretty generously on all difficulties) then you'd have a challenge which was more demanding but way less of a grind.

Modifié par MoeRayShep, 08 février 2013 - 09:44 .

[MoeRayShep]

ScottyF986 wrote...

I finished it with much ease with 2 solo bronze as the QME. Though my question is this.... how do they count the points? I finished the first match with over 100k points but said I had only 24k towards the operation. Then in the second match I finished with over 104k and finished the operation. It doesn't matter to me as I finished it easily but I was just curious as to how the points were counted.

It's not points vs. geth total, it's points specifically vs. geth troopers-- the lowest level enemies.

[metaempiricist]

LAZERAK47 wrote...

ScarletN7 wrote...

Ugh, i hate Geth! They make me go down faster than Kelly Chambers on shore leave!

Hey Chicka bum bum!

uhhh ba dum tssh?

[MoeRayShep]

metaempiricist wrote...

LAZERAK47 wrote...

ScarletN7 wrote...

Ugh, i hate Geth! They make me go down faster than Kelly Chambers on shore leave!

Hey Chicka bum bum!

uhhh ba dum tssh?

It's moot.

I'm pretty sure Shore Leave has no interest in Kelly.

[Felhand]

Do bronze, you get less points but there are ALWAYS lots of troopers available, soloing bronze gave me like 60%-ish of the total goal (while doing silver as a group netted me 37% )

[ScottyF986]

MoeRayShep wrote...

ScottyF986 wrote...

I finished it with much ease with 2 solo bronze as the QME. Though my question is this.... how do they count the points? I finished the first match with over 100k points but said I had only 24k towards the operation. Then in the second match I finished with over 104k and finished the operation. It doesn't matter to me as I finished it easily but I was just curious as to how the points were counted.

It's not points vs. geth total, it's points specifically vs. geth troopers-- the lowest level enemies.

Ahhh ok thanks for the clarification.  I obviously misread when it said geth troopers.  I must've for some reason just thought the whole geth faction.  Thanks for clearing that up

[chcknwng]

A very close game with 2 others (gold white) netted me 6k...... I'm not kidding. A silver solo put that number to 60% and finished with a bronze solo on we 3 or 4.

Good I haven't done the Lone Wolf banner.

[Lyria]

A bronze solo got me 48363 geth trooper points.
You say the points are scaled down, which is true, but they are more than adequate for the challenge's goal of 50000.
It took 8 mins to do the bronze game. What is the problem? lol. Easy challenge is Easy!


 
I have no idea why a certain section of my post is set up as a link. Weird.

Modifié par protognosis, 09 février 2013 - 01:18 .

[EchoBeam]

Wait, it literally is just Geth Troopers? It isn't just geth in general? Seriously?

I really did just get trolled.

[BouncyFrag]

Well, its less frustrating than the short story of the same name.

[l7986]

EchoBeam wrote...

Wait, it literally is just Geth Troopers? It isn't just geth in general? Seriously?

I really did just get trolled.

How? I mean the challenge says "Geth Troopers". Not like theres that many units out there that go by that name.

[Traxxious]

That's funny, I think Sabotage is the answer for me, considering that the only Quarian class I have is the Infiltrator Quarian Chick.

[Lyria]

Sabotage and Sticky Grenades. Doing the challenge with the FQI would've been interesting.

Maybe people read "Geth troopers" as "Geth enemies?" Dont know.

[RudolfH]

manbearpig654 wrote...

I better not get another Valkyrie this week

Guess what.... I just got another flipping Valkyrie!! I feel like throwing the damn Geth with it... Hey, it might actually be a better use for it that way!! haha

[RudolfH]

Traxxious wrote...

That's funny, I think Sabotage is the answer for me, considering that the only Quarian class I have is the Infiltrator Quarian Chick.

I just love that little Quarian chicky... She's got it where it matters and she can handle those pesky Geth quite well! For Rannoch!!

[Sovereign330]

I actually like the reaper controlled geth finally having a place in the multiplayer aspect of the reaper war...never were any emails from hackett about it up until this point. hell, even collectors got love before the geth

[Karma44]

manbearpig654 wrote...

I better not get another Valkyrie this week

why not?  with every valkyrie you get , you reduce the chance of getting it down the line. 

[Karma44]

P51Mus7ang wrote...

NPlewes wrote...

What? We can't have fun too?

And it was fun, played wth friends, done in no time....may night like the enemy in question but we got the job done..

Now BioWare.....what`s next.....

define "no time"

[Karma44]

MoeRayShep wrote...

The big problem here isn't that geth are hard, it's that BioWare didn't think through wave budgeting when they set the operation goal.
Ultimately the problem isn't that you have to fight a certain enemy
with a certain kit, but that it's an enemy type which you have to grind
for under obnoxious circumstances.
This is the same reason you end up having to grind husks to get Reaper Mastery or guardians to get Cerberus Mastery, especially for Gold+ players-- there aren't that many of them, and they aren't worth a whole lot when you get them.

In order to get more troopers, you have to scale down to Bronze-- but that also reduces the point value. You can increase points by setting to Unknown, but you can only do that on map type since the operation requires a specific enemy.

If they had just required something like 150k points vs. any geth or 100k points vs. hunters, pyros, and rocket troops (since mid-level mooks spawn pretty generously on all difficulties) then you'd have a challenge which was more demanding but way less of a grind.

agreed.  I've done 15 challenges and I think this one was either a troll or a mistake. 

[Karma44]

avenging_teabag wrote...

In one thread people whine that the operation is too difficult. Right there on the same page in another thread people whine that the operation is too easy. That's BSN for you.

personally i didn't think this one was too easy or too hard.  just fairly annoying. 

[Lyria]

I finished it in a bronze game. How annoying is it really? You can get ~20k Geth trooper points by end of wave 3.