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[Dark_Caduceus]

When people suggested EDI get uploaded to some combat robot for Mass Effect 3 in these forums; I laughed. I thought it was such a trite, unbelievably stupid idea. "Bioware would never do something that... dumb" I thought.

And then they went ahead and did it, and I laughed again, in a bad way. Like the game was becoming a parody of itself.

Did anyone else feel the same way?

[Khevan77]

About a great many things in ME3, unfortunately. Some great moments, some great characters, but most of the game just fell flat for trying too hard.

[DatStanks]

Nope. Sex appeal and fit the story for my needs.

[arial]

I much preferred EDI when she was a holographic bubble

[kelnagryphon]

It was very contrived, but I thought it was a very clever way to humanise the ship AI, by the end of the game I would have classed EDI as a sentient, individual being whereas at the end of ME2/start of ME3 she was basically a fancy GPS unit in my head.

So yeah, contrived plotline to get her in the body, but I thought that it allowed a lot of interesting questions to be asked and your perceptions to be challenged so I'm very glad they did it.

Modifié par kelnagryphon, 08 février 2013 - 09:26 .

[Seboist]

A "little" silly is putting it mildly. The design of it is idiotic from the metal boobs(why wouldn't the boobs be made of that synthetic material like the skin?) to that fake as hell looking plastic/metal hair.

The mere existence of the robo-infiltrator creates the same kind of problems as Lazarus in that such tech was never mentioned before and not much ado is made of it after the fact. Nobody is concerned that there might be more out there and Derperus never feels compelled to create and use more of them. It just exists as a plot contrivence(like Lazarus) to provide EDI with a sex robot chasis.

Modifié par Seboist, 08 février 2013 - 09:29 .

[Kabooooom]

arial wrote...

I much preferred EDI when she was a holographic bubble

Same. I think they did it for more than just "sex appeal" as was suggested above though. Part of her character progression involves "becoming more human". I imagine they chose a "face" for EDI so that this point would be driven home just that much more.

On subsequent playthroughs, I don't mind it as much as I did on the first one. Her reasoning for mindjacking EVA's body is a little ridiculous though - "oh like, I thought I could totally help you on missions and stuff." Thanks EDI, but I've got a whole squad for that already so....yeah...this is awkward.

As it were, I rarely used EDI as a squadmate. 

[Dark_Caduceus]

kelnagryphon wrote...

It was very contrived, but I thought it was a very clever way to humanise the ship AI, by the end of the game I would have classed EDI as a sentient, individual being whereas at the end of ME2/start of ME3 she was basically a fancy GPS unit in my head.

So yeah, contrived plotline to get her in the body, but I thought that it allowed a lot of interesting questions to be asked and your perceptions to be challenged so I'm very glad they did it.

One could argue that a good writer can humanise a character without essentially just making them human.
I'd be a great deal more impressed if Bioware could imbue EDI with enough personality that people considered her human without turning into a pornstar mech.

[themikefest]

the robot was better in ME2
Its a pile of crap having the robot on my squad. I like to have the option to tell it to leave the platform or risk the airlock.
And then having it ask my femshep about her sexual experience was a 'what the f**k' moment.

Modifié par themikefest, 08 février 2013 - 09:33 .

[Dark_Caduceus]

Seboist wrote...

A "little" silly is putting it mildly. The design of it is idiotic from the metal boobs(why wouldn't the boobs be made of that synthetic material like the skin?) to that fake as hell looking plastic/metal hair.

The mere existence of the robo-infiltrator creates the same kind of problems as Lazarus in that such tech was never mentioned before and not much ado is made of it after the fact. Nobody is concerned that there might be more out there and Derperus never feels compelled to create and use more of them. It just exists as a plot contrivence(like Lazarus) to provide EDI with a sex robot chasis.

Haha, yes, I chose my words very conservatively. I'd call it retarded but being polite [might] prolong the duration of the thread.

[kelnagryphon]

Seboist wrote...
......The design of it is idiotic from the metal boobs(why wouldn't the boobs be made of that synthetic material like the skin?) to that fake as hell looking plastic/metal hair......

At least the hair is explained

[Samtheman63]

i didn't mind her having a body

but what is silly is EDI and Joker having a relationship

[Animositisomina]

I didn't mind the concept in itself, I just wish they didn't give her a nasty cameltoe along with her new body.

[kelnagryphon]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

kelnagryphon wrote...

It was very contrived, but I thought it was a very clever way to humanise the ship AI, by the end of the game I would have classed EDI as a sentient, individual being whereas at the end of ME2/start of ME3 she was basically a fancy GPS unit in my head.

So yeah, contrived plotline to get her in the body, but I thought that it allowed a lot of interesting questions to be asked and your perceptions to be challenged so I'm very glad they did it.

One could argue that a good writer can humanise a character without essentially just making them human.
I'd be a great deal more impressed if Bioware could imbue EDI with enough personality that people considered her human without turning into a pornstar mech.

Absolutely not arguing against that, just saying it helped me to humanise her and stop seeing her as just some disembodied voice, a physical platform changed my relationship with her.

[kelnagryphon]

Animositisomina wrote...

I didn't mind the concept in itself, I just wish they didn't give her a nasty cameltoe along with her new body.

Hey at least that's one area where Joker isn't going to risk breaking any.....bones.

[Obadiah]

It's not "a little" silly...

[Kabooooom]

Samtheman63 wrote...

i didn't mind her having a body

but what is silly is EDI and Joker having a relationship

The first time he asked about that I was super tempted to tell him "no", but I ended up saying "go for it, bro" because I feel bad for Joker. Let's be honest - all advanced life in the galaxy is on the verge of becoming extinct and the poor guy is probably not gonna get laid beforehand. Meanwhile, I'm banging like every chick on the Normandy. That totally blows for him. So, sexbot for you Joker, have at it.

Modifié par Kabooooom, 08 février 2013 - 09:38 .

[Maximanimo]

arial wrote...

I much preferred EDI when she was a holographic bubble

I agree with this. It is one of the reason mass effect 2 is so perfect. 

[Synergizer]

Let's ignore the robot body design for a moment, I want to focus on the OP's statement that it is "dumb" to give EDI the ability to remotely control a robot body, or mech of some kind.

Why is this idea dumb? EDI is capable of hacking enemy ships' computers, it would actually be quite useful if EDI could have hacked control of some Geth or enemy mechs and aided my squad.

Modifié par Synergizer, 08 février 2013 - 09:48 .

[Kabooooom]

I agree with this. It is one of the reason mass effect 2 is so perfect.

I'm currently replaying the trilogy one final time before I put ME behind me (in anticipation of this new dlc, which is probably the final one). I'm about done with ME2. For some reason, I had looked back on ME2 as a near perfect game. It isn't. It has a TON of flaws, and ME3 did a number of things way better than 2 did.

But, it is definitely still my favorite one out of the series. I'm not sure why. There's just something about it that is pure awesome. I think it is the characters - especially Mordin.

Why is this idea dumb? EDI is capable of hacking enemy ships'
computers, it would actually be quite useful if EDI could have hacked
control of some Geth or enemy mechs and aided my squad.

Eh, that's what Tali is for . One of my favorite things to do is hack a Geth prime or a mech, and watch it go to town on its comrades. 

**Edited hilarious typo. Considered leaving it just for the lulz though.

Modifié par Kabooooom, 08 février 2013 - 09:51 .

[Ieldra]

EDI was way more interesting when she was the ship. Giving her a body to control is an interesting idea, but as soon as sex came into it things went off into nonsense territory. No surprise here.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Synergizer wrote...

Let's ignore the robot body design for a moment, I want to focus on the OP's statement that it is "dumb" to give EDI the ability to remotely control a robot body, or mech of some kind.

Why is this idea dumb? EDI is capable of hacking enemy ships' computers, it would actually be quite useful if EDI could have hacked control of some Geth or enemy mechs and added my squad.

Cause it was so predictable that many people on these forums (not quite Shakespeares) suggested it long before it was done, and it was implemented in such a contrived manner that it was literally laughable.

If she can upload herself into this highly advanced prototype mech, why didn't they just adapt the technology for a YMIR?

[matt-bassist]

I groaned and rolled my eyes when I read in the "Art of Mass Effect" book how EDI "needed serious sex appeal. she needed to be sexy" or something like that. ugh. But I don't hold it against Bioware, this was OBVIOUSLY an EA-inclusion. Just like Chobot.

[Synergizer]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Synergizer wrote...

Let's ignore the robot body design for a moment, I want to focus on the OP's statement that it is "dumb" to give EDI the ability to remotely control a robot body, or mech of some kind.

Why is this idea dumb? EDI is capable of hacking enemy ships' computers, it would actually be quite useful if EDI could have hacked control of some Geth or enemy mechs and added my squad.

Cause it was so predictable that many people on these forums (not quite Shakespeares) suggested it long before it was done, and it was implemented in such a contrived manner that it was literally laughable.

If she can upload herself into this highly advanced prototype mech, why didn't they just adapt the technology for a YMIR?

So it's dumb because other people suggested it, making it somewhat predictable - hmm ok.
As for how EDI got control of a robot body in the first place, well at least it was introduced as part of a story, rather than Shepard walking into a robot dealership on the Citadel and buying a robot body for EDI. Merry Xmas EDI! I got you a body!

[Synergizer]

matt-bassist wrote...

I groaned and rolled my eyes when I read in the "Art of Mass Effect" book how EDI "needed serious sex appeal. she needed to be sexy" or something like that. ugh. But I don't hold it against Bioware, this was OBVIOUSLY an EA-inclusion. Just like Chobot.

"EDI's body needed to be sexy, chrome, and robotic, the Mass Effect version of Maria from Metropolis."