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[Clayless]

Nope.

Lot of people used to just complain about her ****** and concentrate on literally nothing else about her, then after a few months, and the last big EDI thread, I think (or hope mainly) that most people have started looking at her character now once they realised what they were doing.

[dreman9999]

fr33stylez wrote...

The whole 'humanizing' EDI arc was pointless, as the endings tell us
1) You'll never get along anyways because reasons
2) EDI was BS'ing the whole time until Synthesis when she's REALLY alive

Nope, you just looking at things too narrowly.

[dreman9999]

Robosexual wrote...

Nope.

Lot of people used to just complain about her ****** and concentrate on literally nothing else about her, then after a few months, and the last big EDI thread, I think (or hope mainly) that most people have started looking at her character now once they realised what they were doing.

This. 1000000 tims this.

[GreyLycanTrope]

dreman9999 wrote...

fr33stylez wrote...

The whole 'humanizing' EDI arc was pointless, as the endings tell us
1) You'll never get along anyways because reasons
2) EDI was BS'ing the whole time until Synthesis when she's REALLY alive

Nope, you just looking at things too narrowly.

Feel free to elaborate Zaeed #9999

[spirosz]

Robosexual wrote...

Nope.

Lot of people used to just complain about her ****** and concentrate on literally nothing else about her, then after a few months, and the last big EDI thread, I think (or hope mainly) that most people have started looking at her character now once they realised what they were doing.

I can still look at her character and appreciate what is there, but still complain about her body.  

[dreamgazer]

Robosexual wrote...

Nope.

Lot of people used to just complain about her ****** and concentrate on literally nothing else about her, then after a few months, and the last big EDI thread, I think (or hope mainly) that most people have started looking at her character now once they realised what they were doing.

You might want to flip through the thread you're posting in.

[GreyLycanTrope]

spirosz wrote...
I can still look at her character and appreciate what is there, but still complain about her body.  

What?! People being capabale of more than one thought process? Surely you jest.

[AresKeith]

Robosexual wrote...

Nope.

Lot of people used to just complain about her ****** and concentrate on literally nothing else about her, then after a few months, and the last big EDI thread, I think (or hope mainly) that most people have started looking at her character now once they realised what they were doing.

lol at this statement

[fainmaca]

dreman9999 wrote...
But she never does use her sex appeal as her advantage. She a woman who carried her own problem on her own back and solve thing on her own.

She is just a very beautiful independent woman.

Morrigan form DA:O is a better example of a femme fatale.

I can't comment on Morrigan, not familiar with the character.

However, Miranda does use her sexuality to her advantage. during one of the conversations with Shepard in ME2, she lists it off as a tool in her arsenal. I believe thequote goes something like 'My reflexes, my strength, even my looks, all designed to give me an edge.' I even recall some kind of dev statement (possibly one of the artbooks) saying that she was specifically designed as a femme.

I don't think you realise that a femme fatale is possibly one of the best examples of a strong and independant woman. A femme doesn't rely on men, she controls them.

[Clayless]

@grey I can elaborate:

EDI says "I am alive". The opposite of being alive is being dead. So she's saying she's not dead. Unlike in Destroy, for example.

Anti-Synthesisers (I'm assuming) jumped to a random conclusion that she was dead(?) before Synthesis, or something, because waatheendingistheworstthingeverwaa.

spirosz wrote...

I can still look at her character and appreciate what is there, but still complain about her body.  

Which would mean you weren't one of the "she's just a sexbot lolol" people I was talking about.

Modifié par Robosexual, 09 février 2013 - 02:47 .

[fainmaca]

dreman9999 wrote...
2. That was may point ageist your point that EDI got the body for fan service. I'm saying if it was the case, she would be romancible.

Not correct. Speaking from my experience writing my own prediction of what ME3 was going to be, many, many, MANY fans were looking for her to be given a body, even though they never expected her to be romanceable by Shepard.

You don't even want to know how many times I was asked to give EDI a, and I quote, 'sexy robot body' to further her romance with Joker.

Fan service is not always about giving the fans a harem.

[dreman9999]

Greylycantrope wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

fr33stylez wrote...

The whole 'humanizing' EDI arc was pointless, as the endings tell us
1) You'll never get along anyways because reasons
2) EDI was BS'ing the whole time until Synthesis when she's REALLY alive

Nope, you just looking at things too narrowly.

Feel free to elaborate Zaeed #9999

1. Destory does not mean we can't get along. It just mean at that time we had no choice to sacrifice synthetics to stopthe reapers.
What we can't get along it the action we do with the event of the exteme are not forcing our hand.
Saying destroy means we can't get along with sysnthetic is like saying choosing to save a love one over a person from another race mean you can't get along with the race the person you did not save if from.

2.There is not differance between organic and synthetic in synthesis. There is not point in say what is alive because of that.

[fainmaca]

Robosexual wrote...
EDI says "I am alive". The opposite of being alive is being dead. So she's saying she's not dead. Unlike in Destroy, for example.

Anti-Synthesisers (I'm assuming) jumped to a random conclusion that she was dead(?) before Synthesis, or something, because waatheendingistheworstthingeverwaa.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but this seems like a huge stretch to make the phrase fit a theory.

If a synthetic character says that they are 'alive', then that is a reference to the philosophical debate of whether a machine can be alive, not the fact that the being in question hasn't been deactivated.

[AresKeith]

I fully expected EDI to have a body in ME3, just not the way that one Alt costume was

Modifié par AresKeith, 09 février 2013 - 02:55 .

[dreman9999]

fainmaca wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
2. That was may point ageist your point that EDI got the body for fan service. I'm saying if it was the case, she would be romancible.

Not correct. Speaking from my experience writing my own prediction of what ME3 was going to be, many, many, MANY fans were looking for her to be given a body, even though they never expected her to be romanceable by Shepard.

You don't even want to know how many times I was asked to give EDI a, and I quote, 'sexy robot body' to further her romance with Joker.

Fan service is not always about giving the fans a harem.

That does not matter. 
Even with the body her character has depth.
The relation ship with Shepard and her is more parent/child-teacher/student then anything else.

That does not scream fan service.

[dreman9999]

fainmaca wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
But she never does use her sex appeal as her advantage. She a woman who carried her own problem on her own back and solve thing on her own.

She is just a very beautiful independent woman.

Morrigan form DA:O is a better example of a femme fatale.

I can't comment on Morrigan, not familiar with the character.

However, Miranda does use her sexuality to her advantage. during one of the conversations with Shepard in ME2, she lists it off as a tool in her arsenal. I believe thequote goes something like 'My reflexes, my strength, even my looks, all designed to give me an edge.' I even recall some kind of dev statement (possibly one of the artbooks) saying that she was specifically designed as a femme.

I don't think you realise that a femme fatale is possibly one of the best examples of a strong and independant woman. A femme doesn't rely on men, she controls them.

Her say she is arractive is not the same as her using her feature to get her way or to her advantage.

Added, there never really a time she controls Shepard.

[fainmaca]

dreman9999 wrote...

That does not matter. 
Even with the body her character has depth.
The relation ship with Shepard and her is more parent/child-teacher/student then anything else.

That does not scream fan service.

No, but the headlights she was given do.

Modifié par fainmaca, 09 février 2013 - 02:58 .

[AresKeith]

Dreman I'm pretty sure fainmaca was talking about EDI getting a body as fan service

If not, then ok

[spirosz]

Big ****** and booty oh so fine, don't scream fan service? Bish pls.

[fainmaca]

dreman9999 wrote...
Her say she is arractive is not the same as her using her feature to get her way or to her advantage.

Added, there never really a time she controls Shepard.

She states that she views her looks as a tool she can use, just like her other abilities, and she doesn't have to use them on Shepard to fall into the femme category.

I really don't get what you're trying to prove here. The femme fatale comment was meant to be a compliment to the character. There is reasoning behind her sexualised appearance. There isn't behind EDI's, other than because some of the fanbase wanted a robot with a rack.

[dreamgazer]

fainmaca wrote...

There isn't behind EDI's, other than because some of the fanbase wanted a robot with a rack.

Who wanted this, exactly?

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

Dreman I'm pretty sure fainmaca was talking about EDI getting a body as fan service

If not, then ok

I got that. I'm say the body brought more to her then he is implying.

She as a character is not a fan service character. Which is the entire arguement any would who isok with her character in ME3 is expressing.

We are just saying, look past her body.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Robosexual wrote...

@grey I can elaborate:

EDI says "I am alive". The opposite of being alive is being dead. So she's saying she's not dead. Unlike in Destroy, for example.

Anti-Synthesisers (I'm assuming) jumped to a random conclusion that she was dead(?) before Synthesis, or something, because waatheendingistheworstthingeverwaa.

Marvelous, just marvelous...

[fainmaca]

dreamgazer wrote...

fainmaca wrote...

There isn't behind EDI's, other than because some of the fanbase wanted a robot with a rack.

Who wanted this, exactly?

I'll point you to my previous post:

fainmaca wrote...
Not correct. Speaking from my experience writing my own prediction of what ME3 was going to be, many, many, MANY fans were looking for her to be given a body, even though they never expected her to be romanceable by Shepard.

You don't even want to know how many times I was asked to give EDI a, and I quote, 'sexy robot body' to further her romance with Joker.

Fan service is not always about giving the fans a harem.

I'm not into naming and shaming, but trust me, there were a few badgering me to put a sexy body into my story for EDI. If they expeted it off a fan-created imagining of what ME3 was going to turn into, you can only imagine how much more so they expected it from the canon product.

[dreman9999]

fainmaca wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Her say she is arractive is not the same as her using her feature to get her way or to her advantage.

Added, there never really a time she controls Shepard.

She states that she views her looks as a tool she can use, just like her other abilities, and she doesn't have to use them on Shepard to fall into the femme category.

I really don't get what you're trying to prove here. The femme fatale comment was meant to be a compliment to the character. There is reasoning behind her sexualised appearance. There isn't behind EDI's, other than because some of the fanbase wanted a robot with a rack.

Nope, She has to use them.

Added, Miranda's looks are based around her issues of lack of control. She was not prettty to be just pretty.
She may bebeutiful,but she is like that because her fathe rmade her that way. She has issues with it.

Why Morrigan is an example of a femme fatale is because she literaly trys to maipulate the (male)warden to do her bidding twice over.