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[mauro2222]

Robosexual wrote...

That's ok, because Synthesis doesn't make her anymore alive, she already was.

"I feel alive"
"Thanks to you, I'm alive"

Synthesis:

"I'm alive"

Warning, synthesis may cause memory loss, use with caution.

[Indy_S]

Robosexual wrote...
He says the peace wont last, not that peace is impossible.

I imagine that the peace will only last at most until the lifespan of the organic is exceeded. Which is a rather short-sighted view on the Catalyst's part.

"Because your tortoise will outlive you, you both must be exterminated!"
/facetious

[Eterna]

mauro2222 wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

That's ok, because Synthesis doesn't make her anymore alive, she already was.

"I feel alive"
"Thanks to you, I'm alive"

Synthesis:

"I'm alive"

Warning, synthesis may cause memory loss, use with caution.

She never says she's alive before Synthesis. She only says she feels alive due to Shepards influence. 

[Indy_S]

Philosophical difference detected: Does feeling alive make you alive? I think Eterna would answer no and Mauro would answer yes. I'm rather partial to yes myself.

[Femlob]

EDI's robot body... a little silly?

Yup. She was given the physique of a porn star so that desperate sixteen-year-olds would have something else to masturbate to. Nothing new under the sun; developers and publishers have been doing that since ****** were represented as triangles (see Lara Croft).

Modifié par Femlob, 09 février 2013 - 08:49 .

[Repzik]

They got tired of developing an interesting character, so they made Data female and slapped EDI's name on.

Modifié par Repzik, 09 février 2013 - 08:54 .

[Slashice]

It's silly and pointless and EDI is one of the most annoying squad mate. Loved her when she was still inside the Normandy... also the fact that Joker want to romance her is just sick. Never leave Joker alone with a computer in a dark room......

[JBPBRC]

I think a change in hologram form would've worked to get "NEED MOAR SEXY" across without the need for a full blown cyber-body.

Granted this would no doubt bring up accusations of ripping off from Halo's Cortana, but what's a little Cortana ripoff when the ending is ripped wholesale from Deus Ex?

Modifié par JBPBRC, 09 février 2013 - 09:14 .

[Indy_S]

Putting clothes on a Cortana ripoff might make the difference strong enough.

[matt-bassist]

people we all know it came down the chain from EA, they wanted more sexy. EA thinks sexy sells, unfortunately the general public who EA targets couldn't give two craps about EDI's sexified bod, and the fans who do actually give 2 ****s instead got pissed off.

so, yet again, clueless EA thought they knew better and failed epically. im sure there are about 12 other points like EDI's sexy body you can find in ME3

[Indy_S]

I don't know if it was EA but I know I am repelled by what the game has given me. All of that sex appeal is wasted because they couldn't limit themselves in where to apply it. There's no reason to make EDI's body sexy to go with every other female character's appearance.

[shodiswe]

I actualy think that EDI getting a "body" that could move around the ship and visit the citadel and evne go on missions was a good and interesting way to portraing AI's as being more than a server box.

People who dislike the idea of AI's and synthetic life will always dislike it.

As for the design, i'm fine with it. It might be a little bit over the top. But it's still not bad art, even as some people say oversexualized.

If EDI is fine with it then I'm fine with it.

[shodiswe]

mauro2222 wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

That's ok, because Synthesis doesn't make her anymore alive, she already was.

"I feel alive"
"Thanks to you, I'm alive"

Synthesis:

"I'm alive"

Warning, synthesis may cause memory loss, use with caution.

Being alive is also the difference between being killed by the reapers, as in the refuse ending where everyone dies. As compared to Control or Synthesis where most people "are alive" thanks to Shepard stoping the "harvest".
People are alive and not dead thanks to Shepard.
all three endings has people saying they are alive and they got a future. Why can't EDI say she's alive thanks to Shepard while it's ok for hacket to make the same claim? We survived!

Modifié par shodiswe, 09 février 2013 - 10:34 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

shodiswe wrote...

I actualy think that EDI getting a "body" that could move around the ship and visit the citadel and evne go on missions was a good and interesting way to portraing AI's as being more than a server box.

People who dislike the idea of AI's and synthetic life will always dislike it.

As for the design, i'm fine with it. It might be a little bit over the top. But it's still not bad art, even as some people say oversexualized.

If EDI is fine with it then I'm fine with it.

That one's directed at me, I take it.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I dunno if anyone has stated this but the ship's avatar thing has been done before.



Andromeda

[ioannisdenton]

shodiswe wrote...

I actualy think that EDI getting a "body" that could move around the ship and visit the citadel and evne go on missions was a good and interesting way to portraing AI's as being more than a server box.

People who dislike the idea of AI's and synthetic life will always dislike it.

As for the design, i'm fine with it. It might be a little bit over the top. But it's still not bad art, even as some people say oversexualized.

If EDI is fine with it then I'm fine with it.

this. i thought the whole EDI reveal thing was pretty cool in Me3. i did not expect it to happen to be honest as i hadn t spoiled myself. When EDI showed up i got into the scene.
Me3 has bigger problems.

[Display Name Owner]

Yeah, EDI was much more interesting as a disembodied AI for some reason. She was unique (in the MEverse I mean), different from any other lifeform, and there was some interesting character development to be had using that. But when she got that body, she just started being some robot fixated on being a 'real person' or not. It was the same with the Geth. They were interesting as they were, as soon as that talk of "true individuality" began, they lost all of their intrigue. Eh, it was just the simplest and, to be honest, dullest way EDI's character could have gone.

Furthermore, there are very few things I don't like design-wise in the MEverse. EDI's body is one of them. If they had to give her a robot body, did it have to be a sexy female robot body? It really is daft looking. Hell, it might have been funny if her robot body was 'male'.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Robosexual wrote...
Incorrect, he says the peace wont last, not that peace is impossible.

Which is an assertion based on the supposed incompatability of the the groups. Which we've shown to not always be the case with our interaction with EDI.

That's ok, because Synthesis doesn't make her anymore alive, she already was.

Exactly, why the action is redundant terms of character development and her characterizetion goes backwards.

EDI pre synthesis: I feel truly alive thanks to Shepard's influence and interaction with me.
EDI post synthesis: I feel truly alive thanks to synthesis.

Pinochio becomes a real boy twice, only according to the exposition dump of the Catalyst only the last one actually counts and anything Shepard did in his interaction was meaningless because as you youself have stated "the peace won't last" supposedly.

Eterna5 wrote...
She never says she's alive before Synthesis. She only says she feels alive due to Shepards influence. 

Not much difference, unless you're saying she doesn't consider herself to be alive before synthesis. If that's the case I doubt it.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 09 février 2013 - 01:54 .

[fainmaca]

Eterna5 wrote...
Your injury part is irrelevant. The only people who stay with paralyzed people or people with diseases that makes physical interaction impossible are people who have memories of what they were like before. For example, A woman marries a man and from some event he becomes paralyzed from the neck down. She stays with him because she loves him. 

Tell me, how many people are just dying to date paralyzed people on the basis of their personalities? You may not like it, but people first choose their mates based on their physical attributes. Such a thing as paralysis is a clear turn off. 

As much as you don't like it the Hardware does matter, not as much as the character, but it does. Someone can have the greatest personality on earth, but you'll never approach them or think of them as a romantic interest unless you feel some form of physical attraction to them. 

I that's how you feel, then I truly feel sorry for you.

Some people are born paralysed. They are still capable of finding someone to love. Memories aren't the only thing keeping them with loved ones. Otherwise, by your measure someone born incapable of physical interaction will be forever alone.

If you really believe a romantic, emotional relationship is impossible or invalid without physical attraction, then you have a really low opinion of Humanity.

To some (you, clearly) hardware does matter, but not to all. Physical qualities do not need to be factored into a relationship

Tell me, how many people are just dying to date paralyzed people on the basis of their personalities?

Nobody goes out looking for a paralysed person to love, don't be stupid. But there are plenty of people in the world who will look for somebody who has the mind and personality they can bond with, form a unique relationship with. If that person happens to be incapable of physical interaction, that's just the way the dice roll.

Biology may make physicality the first thing we instinctually look at, but a lack of such qualities does not preclude a valid and fulfilling relationship.

Modifié par fainmaca, 09 février 2013 - 03:08 .

[Wayning_Star]

It's just an example of how to see the 'self' in reflection of your beginnings as opposed to where you want to end up. Edi is a human contraption turned personality. Who cares if she adopts a body designed by a human female tech? Why would that bother anyone, it's really none of their business.

(but folks loves to make it their business..don't they..lol)

[dreman9999]

Femlob wrote...

EDI's robot body... a little silly?

Yup. She was given the physique of a porn star so that desperate sixteen-year-olds would have something else to masturbate to. Nothing new under the sun; developers and publishers have been doing that since ****** were represented as triangles (see Lara Croft).

If that was true, she would be romanceable. Their is astory related reason for her looks. Added, the playerrelationship with her is more parent/child- teacher/student.

It just sound that you can't get past her looks.

[jkflipflopDAO]

Kabooooom wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

i didn't mind her having a body

but what is silly is EDI and Joker having a relationship

The first time he asked about that I was super tempted to tell him "no", but I ended up saying "go for it, bro" because I feel bad for Joker. Let's be honest - all advanced life in the galaxy is on the verge of becoming extinct and the poor guy is probably not gonna get laid beforehand. Meanwhile, I'm banging like every chick on the Normandy. That totally blows for him. So, sexbot for you Joker, have at it.

Williams!

Yes, sir!

Get up in Joker's cockpit and burp his worm.

Sir?

On the double soldier!

Problem solved.

[dreman9999]

DinoSteve wrote...

I dunno if anyone has stated this but the ship's avatar thing has been done before.



Andromeda

Pick the ME character that has never been done before...You'll find that your point is mute.

[dreman9999]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

Kabooooom wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

i didn't mind her having a body

but what is silly is EDI and Joker having a relationship

The first time he asked about that I was super tempted to tell him "no", but I ended up saying "go for it, bro" because I feel bad for Joker. Let's be honest - all advanced life in the galaxy is on the verge of becoming extinct and the poor guy is probably not gonna get laid beforehand. Meanwhile, I'm banging like every chick on the Normandy. That totally blows for him. So, sexbot for you Joker, have at it.

Williams!

Yes, sir!

Get up in Joker's cockpit and burp his worm.

Sir?

On the double soldier!

Problem solved.

Right, because you squad andcrew are mindless slave to you. They do anythingyou tell them to no matter what.

[dreman9999]

isnudo wrote...

Yeah, EDI was much more interesting as a disembodied AI for some reason. She was unique (in the MEverse I mean), different from any other lifeform, and there was some interesting character development to be had using that. But when she got that body, she just started being some robot fixated on being a 'real person' or not. It was the same with the Geth. They were interesting as they were, as soon as that talk of "true individuality" began, they lost all of their intrigue. Eh, it was just the simplest and, to be honest, dullest way EDI's character could have gone.

Furthermore, there are very few things I don't like design-wise in the MEverse. EDI's body is one of them. If they had to give her a robot body, did it have to be a sexy female robot body? It really is daft looking. Hell, it might have been funny if her robot body was 'male'.

What other character is like her in MEU when she hasthe EVA body? Even with the eva bodyshe still is unique compared to the meu.