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[The Night Mammoth]

Eterna5 wrote...

I disagree completely and you really have no proof of that. I could make the same argument for any female Character in this game. 

So what is the reason for her having such a massively proportioned body if not sex appeal? 

[Eterna]

Kabooooom wrote...

I disagree completely and you really have no proof of that. I could make the same argument for any female Character in this game.

You're joking, right? Are you seriously saying that EDI's body was not designed the way it was for sex appeal? If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.

I'm not saying her body doesn;t have sex appeal, I'm saying the main idea of giving her a body was not for sex appeal. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 08 février 2013 - 11:45 .

[Ticonderoga117]

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

[xAmilli0n]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I disagree completely and you really have no proof of that. I could make the same argument for any female Character in this game. 

So what is the reason for her having such a massively proportioned body if not sex appeal? 

Infiltration!

[Eterna]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

[Iakus]

Eterna5 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

EDI was great in ME3. Haters going to hate.

I liked EDI as a character.  I didn't even mind the idea of EDI and Joker building a relationship.  But I think the appearance of her robotic body was shallow and juvenile.

So was Miranda. Odd how nobody cares about that. 

I care.  I bought ME2's AAP2 specifically for the new Miranda outfit that actually looked like armor rather than (or at least, less like)  a catsuit.

And for the record, Samara was horribly oversexualized as well
Jacob was pretty bad too
And I'm certainly no fan of Ashley's new look either.

[spirosz]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I disagree completely and you really have no proof of that. I could make the same argument for any female Character in this game. 

So what is the reason for her having such a massively proportioned body if not sex appeal? 

There simply is nothing more to it.  Every character has a form of sex appeal, others more so than others and some redesigned to gain more "sex appeal".

[Dark_Caduceus]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

*sigh* this again.

EDI's body is silly and overly sexualised, but Miranda's* isn't.

Sure.


*and any other character in ME for that matter.

I find Miranda's body disturbing because her father designed it to be like that. That and the stupid butt wedgie.

Bioware was actually being very artistically sophisticated here. Miranda's hypersexualized appearance being designed by her father is a very clever usage of Freudian psychoanalytics.

It is a direct inversion of the typical Oedipus complex. This theme is quite consistent throughout the Mass Effect series and indicates a level of subtle psychological encoding not present elsewhere. Also this is complete bull****.

[spirosz]

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Certainly for Joker's pleasure. 

[xAmilli0n]

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Really?  I don't see it.

[Kabooooom]

I'm not saying her body doesn;t have sex appeal, I'm saying the main idea of giving her a body was not for sex appeal.

Oh, I see. My mistake. So your argument is basically:

EDI was given a body for character development. Subsequently, she became a walking fleshlight sexbot.

My argument is:

EDI was given a body to be a walking sexbot. Secondarily, it served the purpose of character development.

Tomatoes, tomahtoes dude.

It is a direct inversion of the typical Oedipus complex. This theme is
quite consistent throughout the Mass Effect series and indicates a level
of subtle psychological encoding not present elsewhere. Also this is
complete bull****.

I just lol'd so hard at this that I scared my dog. Bravo. Bravo.

Modifié par Kabooooom, 08 février 2013 - 11:50 .

[spirosz]

Easily, EDI could have a different design that wouldn't shout "sex appeal", but what's easier to sell to gamers? Imagine every chick similar to ME2, in terms of body proportion in her chest and butt.

Miranda is fine, especially because of her past, but the obvious "ass shots" are annoying as hell.

[Eterna]

spirosz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Certainly for Joker's pleasure. 

There is absolutely no evidence they ever engaged in any form of sexual activity. 

[Eterna]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Really?  I don't see it.

"Only now do I truly feel alive" 

[Dark_Caduceus]

Eterna5 wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Certainly for Joker's pleasure. 

There is absolutely no evidence they ever engaged in any form of sexual activity. 

You need to engage in sexual activity to derive pleasure from somebody's body?

[Ticonderoga117]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
She was doing better with the body. 

Really?  I don't see it.

Me niether. If anything, I see they just covered the whole characterization development with sex appeal. Every major development that EDI undergoes could've occured as the blue ball, thus the body is not needed.

[xAmilli0n]

Eterna5 wrote...

There is absolutely no evidence they ever engaged in any form of sexual activity. 

After that chat Joker had with Mordin, I'd hope he put some of that information to use.  Its not like Shepard could judge him any harder.

[dreamgazer]

Kabooooom wrote...

So your argument is basically:

EDI was given a body for character development. Subsequently, she became a walking fleshlight sexbot.

My argument is:

EDI was given a body to be a walking sexbot. Secondarily, it served the purpose of character development.

Tomatoes, tomahtoes dude.

Hey, at least there was a purpose.  Benezia's boomers are there for no reason at all.

[spirosz]

Eterna5 wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Really?  I don't see it.

"Only now do I truly feel alive" 

[Some Gamer Guy]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

kelnagryphon wrote...

It was very contrived, but I thought it was a very clever way to humanise the ship AI, by the end of the game I would have classed EDI as a sentient, individual being whereas at the end of ME2/start of ME3 she was basically a fancy GPS unit in my head.

So yeah, contrived plotline to get her in the body, but I thought that it allowed a lot of interesting questions to be asked and your perceptions to be challenged so I'm very glad they did it.

One could argue that a good writer can humanise a character without essentially just making them human.
I'd be a great deal more impressed if Bioware could imbue EDI with enough personality that people considered her human without turning into a pornstar mech.

HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey (a strong point in that otherwise pretentious and meaningless film).

[The Night Mammoth]

Eterna5 wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
A key feature of Synthetics is that they all seek to understand organics, or so Legion says. It was inevitable then that EDI would go down this path. 

She was doing fine without the body.

She was doing better with the body. 

Really?  I don't see it.

"Only now do I truly feel alive" 

Don't see why that couldn't have been achieved without her gaining control of a robotic sex doll. 

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...

Kabooooom wrote...

So your argument is basically:

EDI was given a body for character development. Subsequently, she became a walking fleshlight sexbot.

My argument is:

EDI was given a body to be a walking sexbot. Secondarily, it served the purpose of character development.

Tomatoes, tomahtoes dude.

Hey, at least there was a purpose. Benezia's boomers are there for no reason at all.

I thought it was used in reference to Asari not viewing sexuality in the same way humans do, or that since they know other species appreciate those assets, they'll use it to an advantage, especially of a person of her stature.

[xAmilli0n]

Eterna5 wrote...

"Only now do I truly feel alive" 

I really don't see that as being associated with the body.  One thing to remember is that EDI is till mostly the Normandy.  Her being able to understand being alive really wouldn't have to do with body, when the Normandy is her true body...just ask Engineer Kenneth Donnelly.

Also, isn't that line only from the Synthesis ending epilogue?

[Eterna]

Kabooooom wrote...

I'm not saying her body doesn;t have sex appeal, I'm saying the main idea of giving her a body was not for sex appeal.

Oh, I see. My mistake. So your argument is basically:

EDI was given a body for character development. Subsequently, she became a walking fleshlight sexbot.

My argument is:

EDI was given a body to be a walking sexbot. Secondarily, it served the purpose of character development.

Tomatoes, tomahtoes dude.

.

The intent is completely different . It does matter. 

[spirosz]

xAmilli0n wrote...
Also, isn't that line only from the Synthesis ending epilogue?

I believe she says something in a similar fashion in-game, before ending.