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[Han Shot First]

shodiswe wrote...

I don't see the problem with Tali's face.

It is far too human looking.

[Red Panda]

Han Shot First wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

I don't see the problem with Tali's face.

It is far too human looking.

It's not that.

It's the astounding amount of effort that went into it.


It's not so polished, compared to the Tuchanka story arc.

One could liken it to the Thane and Jacob romances in ME3.

[Kastrenzo]

The person in the picture was some model from Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan or one of those central asian "istans", who moved to the UK or something.

[Subject M]

They (Bioware) should patch in a "Alienized" Version of Liz's (VA) face and be done with it. Its not that hard is it.

[JesseLee202]

Knottedredloc wrote...

No, Quarians are not in suit "100% of the time, but 95% of the time they are in the suits. That alone would stunt hair growth significantly.

And you know this? How?
I must have missed the part where you know someone that actually lives in a suit "95%" of their lives... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

You don't know when or how often they remove their helmets/suits and maintain personal hygiene. Hair growth doesn't just "stop" because you wear a suit.

Also, you assume that growing hair is a Quarian tradition and that assumption is just silly as the photoshoped Tali bioware used to insult the players.

I assume what is the most likely reason for why they have hair. Hair doesn't make sense to have if you spend time in a suit for that long, so it can be easily seen as they keep it for other reasons entirely. My assumption makes more sense than anything you could come up with.

You just bash BioWare becuase you dislike how they decided to make Tali's picture. Tali has hair. Tali looks human. Get over it.

That's about as ridiculous as no one in the galaxy remembering how Quarians look after only 300 years.

That is another faulty assumption on your part. No one says they don't have pictures or any other type of footage of Quarians. It's just not something everyone knows, or cares about, seeing as the Galaxy looks down to the Quarians in general.

Like Liara's "hair", I'm sure the people of 2187 could easily "google" what Quarians look like, but the average joe doesn't care.

It's not BioWares fault you have a limited imagination about such things.

Are we also to believe that photography only became available to the galactic community after the Quarians started wearing suits? I guess you buy that one too huh?

I don't "buy" anything. I simply find the most accurate and reasonable answer that makes the most sense.

Quarians have hair. BioWare made that decision. I found a reasonable answer that makes sense. Not my fault you dislike it.

[Voodoo2015]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Here she is. Hammasa Kohistani.





Solved the problem 

Always wonderd how Tali took that photo without getting ultra sick or dead afterwards...what happend to getting sick with no suits on?

Holodeck   No wait thats Star Treck!

The question isn't how, but who took the picture. I'm a little curious about that.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

davishepard wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Then what's the point of making her an alien at all? They could have made her completely human with a weak immune system and got the same result.

If Tali was human you wouldn't have insight on the Quarians, their war against the Geth, and many other things only possible because you have Tali and she is a Quarian.
So no, it wouldn't be the same result, you just oversimplifying.

The Quarians could have been another race of humans.

[Su37]

Han Shot First wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

I don't see the problem with Tali's face.

It is far too human looking.

...And the asari aren't? Really, they're just blue humans, yet no one complains about them.

Honestly, we have basically known that quarians look like humans since Mass Effect 1, since there was concept art for Tali (on the bonus content disc) that had the description of "human female face" right next to one of the pictures. Plus, in Ascension, we are given a brief description of the physical appearance of quarians.

Here's one: Tali concept

So, no, they won't change it, and I don't want them to.

[Rip504]

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Wonder did she get any money for Bioware using her pic?

Modifié par DinoSteve, 10 février 2013 - 12:24 .

[Darth Wraith]

I always pictured the quarians to look more like the Protoss from StarCraft. Glad I never pursued the Tali romance so I can pretend that picture doesn't exist.

[Gedgehog]

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Here she is. Hammasa Kohistani.





Solved the problem 

Always wonderd how Tali took that photo without getting ultra sick or dead afterwards...what happend to getting sick with no suits on?

Holodeck   No wait thats Star Treck!

The question isn't how, but who took the picture. I'm a little curious about that.

Curious, was her photo patched or something? I seem to remember it being like this:
http://angryjoeshow....5113.jpg?9d7bd4

[AlexMBrennan]

The question isn't how, but who took the picture. I'm a little curious about that.

Chiktikka vas Paus

Honestly, we have basically known that quarians look like humans since Mass Effect 1, since there was concept art for Tali (on the bonus content disc) that had the description of "human female face" right next to one of the pictures. Plus, in Ascension, we are given a brief description of the physical appearance of quarians.

Right, so everyone but the people actually *playing* the game knew.

As for the asari, there's an obvious explanation - Bioware built up expections over the years, and utterly failed to deliver (cheaply photoshopped stock photo).

[Edolix]

Gedgehog wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Here she is. Hammasa Kohistani.

-snip-

Solved the problem 

Always wonderd how Tali took that photo without getting ultra sick or dead afterwards...what happend to getting sick with no suits on?

Holodeck   No wait thats Star Treck!

The question isn't how, but who took the picture. I'm a little curious about that.

Curious, was her photo patched or something? I seem to remember it being like this:
http://angryjoeshow....5113.jpg?9d7bd4

She still looks like that, the one that was posted is an improved photoshop of the original photoshop =P

[Su37]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Right, so everyone but the people actually *playing* the game knew.

As for the asari, there's an obvious explanation - Bioware built up expections over the years, and utterly failed to deliver (cheaply photoshopped stock photo).

Stock photos are used all the time, whether it's in games, movies, etc., so I fail to see the issue with that. Plus, BioWare stated their reasoning for why the decided to do it this way, and I agree with them.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I Photoshop the broodmother's face onto that picture of what's supposed to be Tali.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 10 février 2013 - 01:12 .

[Cobretti ftw]

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Voodoo2015 wrote...

Here she is. Hammasa Kohistani.





Solved the problem 

Always wonderd how Tali took that photo without getting ultra sick or dead afterwards...what happend to getting sick with no suits on?

Holodeck   No wait thats Star Treck!

The question isn't how, but who took the picture. I'm a little curious about that.

Thats not the only question.

The real problem for me is bioware lazyness. THis is not the pic from the game, its an IMPROOVEMENT made by a fan. On the original, tali has a deformed hand. its bizarre.

[TheIdiocyWizard2.0]

[Stalker]

DinoSteve wrote...

Wonder did she get any money for Bioware using her pic?

That's kinda the point: Instead of putting effort into something a lot of fans couldn't wait to see, maybe pay a proper 3-d artist for an unique model, they used a free stock photo and some trainee to photoshop it. These kind of pictures are used in a lot of independent games because you have every right to use them commercially without credit or payment.

[Scorpion1O1]

IMHO the way they treated Tali's face (and other design decisions through out the game) are just unacceptable and isn't very professional in quality and it worries me that they think it is.

Just had to state that because I was coincidentally thinking of this today.

[Reorte]

Scorpion1O1 wrote...

IMHO the way they treated Tali's face (and other design decisions through out the game) are just unacceptable and isn't very professional in quality and it worries me that they think it is.

I can't seriously believe that they think it is. The odd thing is that they don't simply admit that they ran out of time and ideas for it but instead try to portray it as a deliberate decision they put a lot of effort into. Coming clean about problems usually turns out better if it's clear that everyone will see straight through your excuses.

[tg0618]

I'm just glad they gave the Quarians hair. Up to then it was only humans that had hair.

I kind of always wondered why. If it was a concious decision or just coincidence.

Modifié par Tony0618, 10 février 2013 - 02:16 .

[Rip504]

N/M sorry for wasting space.

Modifié par Rip504, 10 février 2013 - 02:19 .

[DoodlyDangus]

Rip504 wrote...

Their plan was to release ME2 and ME3 within a timetable to reach as many fans as possible(to make as much money as possible asap) They told EA they could deliver. Then they released the product that is ME3. It is exactly what they wanted to give their fan base. I seriously believe they feel as if they gave us a complete and of the highest quality product. We the fans are the ones whom disagree. As they never touched anything that was in the main disc release. They did add upon the ending with the EC. This was done to clarify the endings for the fans. It was not done to improve the product they released. As they feel the product they have released is of the highest quality.

Other companies have added to their main disc release content and have remained proud and stuck to their overall concept without comprising any of their views of the product they have made. As adding to the main content is not seen as the main content being a failure but rather just an improvement to quality of the original content.

I think they should have waited until Christmas 2012 to release the game. I'd willingly wait that long for a better product.

[Silvair]

I'm okay with the edited stock photo except for one thing:

I can't really see Tali with Long hair. Be totally impractical for someone wearing a skintight envirosuit for her entire life.

As for it being a stock photo, oh well. Shepard himself is based on Mark Vanderloo, so not too much of a jump, there.