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he embodies the characteristics of a best friend. Anyone that dislikes Garrus never had a best friend before.

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Well OP I use team dextro in all my games the moment Garrus and Tali are on board all my other squadmates can go home cuz we got dat!

Seriously if you can't understand the awesomeness that is team dextro you can't join our club.

Garrus is loyal, has da voice, respectful, non boisterous, has a personal drive to overall do good that matches very well with shep's save the galaxy mentality, is supportive, give great pep talks, knows how to show a girl a good time, can laugh at himself, snips peeps like no one's business, really I could go on there actually isn't a comparison for him and Shep other then there is no shep w/o Vakarian cuz doing the whole batman and robin thing is an insulting comparison for them. Tali + Garrus + Shep = Win.

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My theory is that he represents the player (you and I behind the monitor) and the relationship he has with Shepard is the same as our relationship to Shepard. If Vega was written to be the new-player's point of view and someone the player identifies with, Garrus is the Mass Effect fan who's gone through ME1, ME2 and now ME3 together with Shepard.

The player and Shepard have been through a lot together, they've seen all kinds of stuff from giant talking bugs to giant talking reapers. Shepard the character was prepared to die to kill the reapers, and we the player would follow that through without hesitation. There is no Shepard without the player.

I feel this is why we as players identify with Garrus so well.

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ChuckTesla wrote...

He's one of the best 'bros' in gaming. His best scene in the entire series is just going on top of a building or whatever it was, shooting bottles and talking a little trash with Shep. AND IT WAS AWESOME. I will admit he was kinda boring in ME1, but in 2 & 3 he became the snarky, silver tongued buddy cop-type to Shep that made him stand out above the other NPCs for me.


Yeah, in ME1 he was sort of, "Meh".  Wrex was my "bro" in ME1 but in ME2 and 3, Garrus all the way.  He's dedicated and pretty much always has your back and is a true friend and comrade in arms.

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Garrus was there with you from the start. It is only fitting he be there with you at the end.

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ChuckTesla wrote...

He's one of the best 'bros' in gaming. His best scene in the entire series is just going on top of a building or whatever it was, shooting bottles and talking a little trash with Shep. AND IT WAS AWESOME. I will admit he was kinda boring in ME1, but in 2 & 3 he became the snarky, ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING ANNOYING

He was okay in me1. But then I wonder why you like thane op. Or maybe I'm just a misanthrope because I seem to hate everyone. But wait they're not people

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Because he is a "PC's best friend."

A popular Bioware character template. He lacks development...a lot...

I think it could be this what with the lackluster answers. Everyone's just like "bro" "wingman" "voice". I mean if you asked me why I liked Mordin and Legion, it's because they're both funny, Legion is adorable, Mordin is deep and has a really interesting conscience.

and why is everyone calling him a wingman. Isn't that what people call a
guy who helps someone hit on women. Isn't garrus the one who needs a
wingman

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he embodies the characteristics of a best friend. Anyone that dislikes Garrus never had a best friend before.


Possibly true. I've never had one. So I don't care as much for how he's written.

I'm warming up to him again though. For a few playthroughs, I had him killed. I'd prefer if both he and Liara had some optional buildup into the roles they become though. Some kind of branching dialogue that turns them into closest confidants. That'd be better for all players, even people who like them (think of it this way, you'd get even more content).

Modifié par StreetMagic, 31 août 2013 - 04:56 .


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Garrus...well, i like him as a character, but I never much use him (if i don't have to) because i prefer biotics and techs (as i prefer abilities to guns - not that i don't shoot things, too)

As for "he is the best" - well, as i said, i like him, but i like Tali, Miranda, Liara, Mordin etc. much more (he is not the worst character, there are many i like less as well (like Vega...bah he is so cliche!) but i like having him around :)

in the end: as a chracter he is in my top-ten (because i like interacting with him), but i don't use him much (i'd rather have 3 biotics or 2 biotics and one tech (note: my sheppard is always a biotic (Adept mostly))

greetings LAX

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Have you seen his picture?

He look's like a puppy looking for love.

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.

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Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"

Modifié par StreetMagic, 31 août 2013 - 06:27 .


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I have a weird relationship with Garrus. I like having him around, but I rarely use him in my squad and find him a bit boring, though amusing, in conversation. I think of him like that high school friend who you should've been best friends with but it just never happened, yet you still meet up for lunch when they're in town. Maybe I'm just missing out on a lot of banter by not utilizing him in my squad?

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StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"


Yeah. Garrus channel's the spirit of Judge Dredd.

Good times ^^

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StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"


Yeah. Garrus channel's the spirit of Judge Dredd.

Good times ^^


That's the thing though. He complains so much about rules and regulations and redtape, but wants to inflict death on the smallest violations to regulations on other people. Smuggling tainted eezo and forging IDs aren't capital offenses.

Dredd is at least consistent.

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He says "just like old times/days" a lot. And strokes Shep=player ego all. the. time.

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He says "just like old times/days" a lot. And strokes Shep=player ego all. the. time.


I get tired of that too.

He even says that if you don't recruit him in ME1. haha

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StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"


Yeah. Garrus channel's the spirit of Judge Dredd.

Good times ^^


That's the thing though. He complains so much about rules and regulations and redtape, but wants to inflict death on the smallest violations to regulations on other people. Smuggling tainted eezo and forging IDs aren't capital offenses.

Dredd is at least consistent.


Yeah, Dredd's kinda Lawful Neutral.

Garrus is more Lawful Evil

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StreetMagic wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

He says "just like old times/days" a lot. And strokes Shep=player ego all. the. time.


I get tired of that too.

He even says that if you don't recruit him in ME1. haha

Seriously though, my problem's that Garrus basically concluded his arc and developement in ME1. Mayyyyybe in ME2 but that's stretching too. Other characters have at least some arc in ME3 (regardless if you think they were good or not). Take Grunt for example, I thought he was one of the weakest characters in ME2 roaster but even he recieved a developement in ME3 and I grew to like him a lot. I hated Tali through ME1/ME2 but I can't deny that she recieved substantial character arc for ME3 and again, I liked her more in ME3 than previous games. Garrus is just telling you about fun times, delivers you info about Palaven, pats you on the back and/or consoles you, not any actual role/character growth, we didn't learn anything knew about him nor did he learnt anything new about himself.

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Yeah, Dredd's kinda Lawful Neutral.

Garrus is more Lawful Evil


One good thing about ME3 is he's better off as a soldier fighting wars. He shouldn't even think about law enforcement or anything in the civilian sector.


Nyreen otoh is the kind of Turian Omega could've used. Instead of gunning down mercs, she gave them leadership. And instead of brushing aside collateral damage, she's pretty adamant about protecting civilians. Almost sickeningly so. Garrus has always risked more - with respect to Dr. Michel and with respect to how he wanted to pursue Dr. Heart.

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Garrus is one of the most overrated characters in my opinion.

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There's lots of things to like about him

His drive and commitment in ME to his job I mean just talking to him back then I wanted him for fshep! Every time he'd ask me if I need something I'd mentally go, " Yeah you." He had passion, I liked that. Also the mentor/mentee vibes were approprate and cute.

Tali was also cool but I didn't think of her as someone to romance like I did Garrus she just hung out in the glowing engineering core and told me elebarate stories. But I could listen to both of them talk for hours even if for Garrus I didn't agree with his methods he still was willing to stick with them.

ME2 yeah he gets better for bro and awkward romance for fshep to the point I was worried that in 3 would he see our night as a one nighter because he did say he only liked her because it was her.

And since I brought her into this first paragraph I min as well keep going I loved Tali's romance I happened to talk to Kelly first and she told me Tali liked me I honestly thought it was a very cute easter egg and nothing more would come of it until it did I almost ran away in shocked joy like I did with Garrus (literately fshep ran away ran around the ship I was very happy I might be able to ask him out) So yeah team dextro romances for the win!

I will however say a bad moment for me with Garrus was when he didn't try to maul me when I didn't let him kill Sidonis really I thought I'd die or he'd cut me he should've been irate and I wouldn't have blamed him. I also expected to die when I didn't let Zaeed kill his guy either but neither did and that was very out of place.

by ME3 he was super bro for mshep which was solid I couldn't have wanted a better right hand man he'd proven he was trust worthy, loyal, and even if we disagreed on things I was there and he was here for me like family. Fshep and him the romance was done 99% if it wasn't for that 1 second kiss and done routine it would've been perfect! I loved how he sounded during their supportive talks it was a different vibe from her and bro Mshep I really liked the difference in his voice.

Tali's romance however was rushed I knew from the moment mshep asked if their relationship could compromise the Normandy that their romance arc would be encased in the battle for Rannoch then it got shelved, rushing many things, and then the no face reveal on Rannoch and their 1 second kiss with no render for the glass was worse this was the most unique couple in the game and BW really skipped on all the issues this pair faced.

Garrus fights well on his own as well I don't feel like in combat I need to tell him what to do and at least for my game he doesn't die often and when I combo team dextro they live more times through the battles then my other team mates. I've got way more reasons why I like him his sexy voice is also included in that but I won't keep going on unless its the endless text wall but here's a few reasons anyway.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 05 septembre 2013 - 04:12 .


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StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"


Garrus wasn't beating Harkin because of the forged IDs.  He was doing it because Harkin is thrash from back when Harkin was in C-Sec and plus when Harkin became the Fade he was using his C-Sec contacts to work the system to get criminal merc gangs, like the Blue Suns, onto the Citadel to do who knows what kind of crimes.  Also him killing Eclispe and Blood pack becuase they were doing victimless crimes isn't why he killed them, he killed them because they are pirate merc bands,  which means when they can't do mercenary work they go out and steal stuff from other people who are usally on ships so they attack it kill everybody and steal their stuff,  they also do all kinds of other stuff too that involes murdering lot's of people.  Its in the codex look it up.

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He's a sycophant and I love him for it.

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Loyal and dependable. Most turians are, I would guess, it's a cultural thing. Even if I'm sure there are exceptions ofcourse.

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I like him because Garrus is always honest and always gives a straightforward opinion on any subjects. Secondly, Garrus has never judge Shepard's choices, he instead support him the best way he can just like Anderson. Unless other who crew mates who question your loyalty every 5 minutes and second guess your orders in a military operation.

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kaltacular wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Plus he developed into a Batman character in ME2. The lone warrior against Omega.


His crime fighting credibility isn't all that.

He wasn't doing much good. He says he was targetting gangs, but just turns out most of his victims were merc groups doing victimless crimes. Like the leader of Eclipse there was shipping tainted eezo. Possibly something like Pitne For and Minagen X3. Not sure. In any case, Garrus' punishment is overkill compared to anything Batman does. Batman has a no gun rule. Garrus is more like an extreme version of the Punisher. He's such a fanatic about "justice" that he thinks the guards on Purgatory were innocent guys doing a job protecting the galaxy. That's too simplistic, I think.

I get a kick playing along with him at times, but the more I play, the more I think he's crazy. Even the way he treats Harkin. Harkin is just a guy who forges IDs and Garrus wants to break his neck and shoot him. Harkin has a bad attitude, but he's right when he cries at the end "What did I ever do to you?"


Garrus wasn't beating Harkin because of the forged IDs.  He was doing it because Harkin is thrash from back when Harkin was in C-Sec and plus when Harkin became the Fade he was using his C-Sec contacts to work the system to get criminal merc gangs, like the Blue Suns, onto the Citadel to do who knows what kind of crimes.  Also him killing Eclispe and Blood pack becuase they were doing victimless crimes isn't why he killed them, he killed them because they are pirate merc bands,  which means when they can't do mercenary work they go out and steal stuff from other people who are usally on ships so they attack it kill everybody and steal their stuff,  they also do all kinds of other stuff too that involes murdering lot's of people.  Its in the codex look it up.


Turians really can't stand traitors, or people who betray their trust or the trust of their superirs or the military or the lawenforcement organisations they are working for, or friends, colleagues, bussinespartners.
To them, betrayers and corruption is some of the worst aspects of any sentient beings out there.

It's possibly the crime that carries the most stigma and disgust in Turian society. Most turians would probably react that way towards Harkin even if some would try keep it down long enough to allow the superiors handle it, the people who got slighted the worst.

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