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[ngd1029]

When playing Dragon Age one thing that was mentioned in various conversations is that Grey Wardens use to ride on White Griffons but they became extinct. But with future expansions and so forth wouldn't it be awesome if we got a chance to ride griffins or even to find them in some remote location in a quest and gradually bring them back to future Grey Wardens?  I looked online but I didn't see much about them aside from that brief snippet.  As I didn't see it posted anywhere when I searched I thought I'd throw that idea out and see what everyone else thought about it.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Yes it should be really easy to bring a long extinct species back out of no where. Gameplay wise it wouldn't fit, unless it was used in like cintematics. I think bioware made them extinct so we wouldnt get any other idea's.

[daiosmith]

The world would be large especially to a pre industrial society.



Maybe there are still some griffins left in an unexplored part of the world

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Maybe we could use they to fly away to the awakening.

???

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 02:46 .

[ngd1029]

To Solostran 85
"Kennith Shepard wrote...

Maybe we could use they to fly away to the awakening."

He's referring to the new Awakening Expansion that's been announced and hopefully will be out in March if nothing unforeseen happens. I do agree that gameplay wise it might not fit (e.g. Using the Griffons in battle wouldn't be possible), but it would be neat still if we could use it an cinematics or just to travel from place to place (e.g. From Fereldan to wherever the next expansion takes us). Besides for games and fiction there are no real absolutes. When I read Griffons were extinct I thought the reason is because the producers wanted to put them in originally but couldn't in time for the game's release so they just made them extinct to make things easier. Besides think about how many "legendary" things we've come across in the game already. A few more won't hurt .

Modifié par ngd1029, 10 janvier 2010 - 03:31 .

[Rythuse]

well what they could do is since i believe there is going to be a main grey warden base in where the xpac is taking place maybe if it or some other place has grey warden history there we could find like a secret spot were there is the last surviving griffin or w/e but that would also bring the problem of your party being with you w/e the case i have thought about this and it would be something that would make the game a WHOLE lot better then it already is and ya i wouldnt expect to be able to use in battle but definetly from place to place is cool and not all areas available for flying

Modifié par Rythuse, 10 janvier 2010 - 03:34 .

[StarMars]

I don't think the Dragon Age engine is capable of doing this. You can't even jump over small obstacles blocking your way like rocks and fallen trees (which frustrates me sometimes). In the gameplay, no; in a cinematics video, maybe.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Bah, just because they're believed to be extinct doesn't mean they are. With all the technology on Earth we're still occasionally finding species of animal or plant that were thought to have died out.



Griffons would be cool, I agree. Perhaps if the game mechanics can be worked to accomodate this we might see them one day.

[Maria Caliban]

Solostran85 wrote...

Yes it should be really easy to bring a long extinct species back out of no where.

The dragons were also a long extinct species.. until they weren't.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Yes it should be really easy to bring a long extinct species back out of no where.

The dragons were also a long extinct species.. until they weren't.

They weren't seen for a long time. There's what seven old gods four have been killed, five if you include the one we killed so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:15 .

[Nukenin]

Griffons schmiffons, where's me pack bronto/mule/halla? And where's the cavalry?

[Hyper Cutter]

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

[Eisberg1977]

yeah, the Griffons could be flying around in the Kocari Wilds or even farther south for all we know. Kocari Wilds is still unexplored territory for the most part.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Solostran85 wrote...

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

So? People IRL state species as extinct, but are still wrong to this day on some of those comments. All it takes is a few griffons living somewhere no one has explored and bingo! A hitherto unrealised colony of flying bird-lions! The world's a big place after all, and Thedas doesn't have GPS.

What I'm saying is that, if there are any griffons anywhere in the world, it's not likely to be in places people have looked. Or there numbers are so few, the ones that still live were simply missed. Or both.

(Really, we just need some mages to catch some lions and giant eagles then breed them. A little violin music, some rare steak, it'd be easy. )

[Krononz]

Eagle + Lion + Booze = Griffons?



I'm sure all 3 are still readily available in the world of Dragon Age.

[Darstragon]

Solostran85 wrote...

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

The people of Ferelden also thought the Darkspawn were completely wiped out at the end of the previous blight. And we know how accurate that belief was...

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Darstragon wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

The people of Ferelden also thought the Darkspawn were completely wiped out at the end of the previous blight. And we know how accurate that belief was...

Yes just them, the gray wardens however knew otherwise. If they thought griffons still existed why not try and look for their lost friends. Answer= there's none left.

[LadyDrusilla]

It is very hard to make comparisons with real life on this subject. While extinctions are iffy to confirm, most extinctions are of small species, mostly avian. Since 1500 there have only been three large mammal extinctions recorded*, I can only remember one of them as the Barbary Lion (which itself may have survived in circus animals, attempts are being made to confirm this and revive the species). A griffon would be hard to miss, but then again, it is a pre-industrial culture.



*According to the Committee on Recently Extinct Organisms.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Solostran85 wrote...

Darstragon wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

The people of Ferelden also thought the Darkspawn were completely wiped out at the end of the previous blight. And we know how accurate that belief was...

Yes just them, the gray wardens however knew otherwise. If they thought griffons still existed why not try and look for their lost friends. Answer= there's none left.

Or how about it's not that easy to explore the whole world? Or...not all griffons in existence were Grey Warden mounts? Maybe there are other breeds of griffons they haven't discovered yet. The Thedas map makes it clear that a lot of the landmass south of Ferelden is uncharted.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Krononz wrote...

Eagle + Lion + Booze = Griffons?

I'm sure all 3 are still readily available in the world of Dragon Age.

Eagles might become more scarce if Shale is on the loose...

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Darstragon wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...
so no i don't think dragons were ever extinct just missing and are in very small #'s.

Exactly the point they were trying to make.

But it was stated somewhere they were extinct. Them coming back is very unlikely since well you can't really maintain a healthy population when there's only a few of your kind left. Any thoughts of griffons magically reappearing from extinction are silly.

The people of Ferelden also thought the Darkspawn were completely wiped out at the end of the previous blight. And we know how accurate that belief was...

Yes just them, the gray wardens however knew otherwise. If they thought griffons still existed why not try and look for their lost friends. Answer= there's none left.

Or how about it's not that easy to explore the whole world? Or...not all griffons in existence were Grey Warden mounts? Maybe there are other breeds of griffons they haven't discovered yet. The Thedas map makes it clear that a lot of the landmass south of Ferelden is uncharted.

Ok think of how big all of thedas is now imagine someone not actually seeing one of them for several hundred years. Who knows how many people have found dragons since there are several in fereldan they must be in small numbers but they clearly exist. Griffons however have not been seen since whatever age it was and are likely since then whipped out completely due to not maintaining a health population. On the idea of them being south that could be but its likely there staying there and aren't heading north anytime soon.