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[holdenagincourt]

It should at least be equivalent across factions.

Banshees and Primes are generally easy to take out, Atlases usually fine but sometimes retain about half of their armor, nbd. Praetorians, on the other hand, often take no damage or only lose about half their barriers from a direct Cobra launch to the face.

[tungstenKestrel]

Observational Spawn immunity, shared by both NPCs and Players.

It can turn and look when it spawns/we get up, but the moment we move/use and ability/perform an action after a set amount of time, we do not become invulnerable anymore. You have the choice of bolting away as soon as possible, or getting an extra few quick seconds to access and run away.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Y'know... if you got everything you liked Air Quotes I think MP would be bloody easy.

Just an observation.

On the topic at hand though... to be frank it hasn't bothered me.

 

LOL. Bloody easy? No. Easier? Sure. A ton more FUN? Definetely. 

I mean I can't understand the reasoning of the people who say things like - Banshee magnet hands across the map was a good thing and made the game more challenging. Or that Geth stunlock is a good thing. Or that Phantom DR makes sense.  

It's not challenge - it's pure BS.  

And guess what - when Banshee magnets got fixed - Reapers became the most fun, balanced faction that people enjoy playing against. 

But then the game won't be any challenge, elites like us must play with Common weapons and Vorcha Hunter.

[Ziegrif]

Air Quotes wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Y'know... if you got everything you liked Air Quotes I think MP would be bloody easy.

Just an observation.

On the topic at hand though... to be frank it hasn't bothered me.

 

LOL. Bloody easy? No. Easier? Sure. A ton more FUN? Definetely. 

I mean I can't understand the reasoning of the people who say things like - Banshee magnet hands across the map was a good thing and made the game more challenging. Or that Geth stunlock is a good thing. Or that Phantom DR makes sense.  

It's not challenge - it's pure BS.  

And guess what - when Banshee magnets got fixed - Reapers became the most fun, balanced faction that people enjoy playing against. 

But then the game won't be any challenge, elites like us must play with Common weapons and Vorcha Hunter.

 

You know fully well that getting grabbed across Dagger was not challenge. 

But it did create suspense in the game. Death came from totally unexpected places and added a wild card to the match.

Kinda like gambling.

Nowadays Reapers feel too easy and BORING without that looming threat of bull**** weighting over the team. Course we got praetorians who actually can magnet claw a bit. So I guess it's a + - 0 situation. Oh and ass lazers, never forget.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 09 février 2013 - 10:00 .

[brad2240]

OperatingWookie wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Remove it, or give us revive immunity. It's only fair.

^^^^THIS^^^^

Or just 3 seconds of invulnerability to everything  including sync kills and stagger after joining a game in progress.

Also, have the enemies ignore players in this state and not prioritize them as targets.

Agreed. I hate joining a game only to find I'm already standing in a field of grenades... or a seeker swarm has already gotten me... or a husk is already humping my face.

[Blarg]

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Remove it, or give us revive immunity. It's only fair.

^^^^THIS^^^^

[Cyonan]

Ziegrif wrote...

But it did create suspense in the game. Death came from totally unexpected places and added a wild card to the match.

Kinda like gambling.

Nowadays Reapers feel too easy and BORING without that looming threat of bull**** weighting over the team. Course we got praetorians who actually can magnet claw a bit. So I guess it's a + - 0 situation. Oh and ass lazers, never forget.

Magnet hands specifically created a sort of panic whenever a Banshee got 1 teleport away, though dying to it did feel pretty cheap and out of my control.

However I also agree that if they nerfed everything Air Quotes complained about, the game would be way too easy, especially Cerberus.

[Zjarcal]

Ziegrif wrote...

But it did create suspense in the game. Death came from totally unexpected places and added a wild card to the match.

Kinda like gambling.

Nowadays Reapers feel too easy and BORING without that looming threat of bull**** weighting over the team.

That's... an interesting point of view.

Personally I don't like gambling and when a death occurs in a way that there's absolutely no way I could've avoided it, that's not fun at all.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 09 février 2013 - 10:07 .

[Oni Changas]

Never bothered me. Then again, it helps to know spawn locations, so as to prevent close spawning from happening.

[Ziegrif]

Air Quotes wrote...
Yeah. If I wanna Gamble - I'll play Roulette. Or Russian Roulette.  The game has to be consistent. If it contantly pulls BS out of it's ass - it's not fun. 

Consistency becomes a boring grind. Consistent is an mmo where you keep farming and farming for gold for that one pink pretty dress.

To me consistency is just boring, which is why whenever I play Skyrim I play with enough mods to make sure that when I actually run into a bear I run into 3 of them and a dragon when I was expecting 1 skeever.

But hey! Whatever floats your boat Air quotes! Were arguing prefrence here anyway. I like my random threats you like an enemy that you can read. Both get fun so let's just agree to disagree slap each others arses and go drink some whiskey.

Air Quotes wrote...

You add all those elements and you have Kai Leng. Does nyone like Kai Leng?

I do! He's HILARIOUS!

Modifié par Ziegrif, 09 février 2013 - 10:12 .

[Kinom001]

meh. It is what it is. Having players camp just out of sight of a spawn point so they can toss everything down there gets old. If there's no challenge why play?

[Deerber]

Ziegrif wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Y'know... if you got everything you liked Air Quotes I think MP would be bloody easy.

Just an observation.

On the topic at hand though... to be frank it hasn't bothered me.

 

LOL. Bloody easy? No. Easier? Sure. A ton more FUN? Definetely. 

I mean I can't understand the reasoning of the people who say things like - Banshee magnet hands across the map was a good thing and made the game more challenging. Or that Geth stunlock is a good thing. Or that Phantom DR makes sense.  

It's not challenge - it's pure BS.  

And guess what - when Banshee magnets got fixed - Reapers became the most fun, balanced faction that people enjoy playing against. 

But then the game won't be any challenge, elites like us must play with Common weapons and Vorcha Hunter.

 

You know fully well that getting grabbed across Dagger was not challenge. 

But it did create suspense in the game. Death came from totally unexpected places and added a wild card to the match.

Kinda like gambling.

Nowadays Reapers feel too easy and BORING without that looming threat of bull**** weighting over the team. Course we got praetorians who actually can magnet claw a bit. So I guess it's a + - 0 situation. Oh and ass lazers, never forget.

 

Yeah. If I wanna Gamble - I'll play Roulette. Or Russian Roulette.  The game has to be consistent. If it contantly pulls BS out of it's ass - it's not fun. 

Consistency becomes a boring grind. Consistent is an mmo where you keep farming and farming for gold for that one pink pretty dress.

To me consistency is just boring, which is why whenever I play Skyrim I play with enough mods to make sure that when I actually run into a bear I run into 3 of them and a dragon when I was expecting 1 skeever.

But hey! Whatever floats your boat Air quotes! Were arguing prefrence here anyway. I like my random threats you like an enemy that you can read. Both get fun so let's just agree to disagree slap each others arses and go drink some whiskey.

Don't forget to make a video of that and post it on here! 

[Cyonan]

Air Quotes wrote...

You can make then game challenging without resorting to insta-kills (without any way of stoping them), stunlock, power/weapon immunity and all that jazz. It's just a faster/cheaper way to create artificial difficulty.


You add all those elements and you have Kai Leng. Does nyone like Kai Leng?

Now you're talking about revamping every faction in the game. That's way beyond the scope of what almost any developer will do in patches.

The BSN also has a habit of horribly exaggerating things as well.

Such as the fact that no enemy in the game actually has weapon immunity =P

[Contador68]

Agreed.

[jacob92883]

Real easy solution. If they have spawn protection they cant attack. Problem solved

[Ziegrif]

Cyonan wrote...

Such as the fact that no enemy in the game actually has weapon immunity =P

Y'know they should add one.
A boss of sorts.
This giant looming killing machine that's immune to everything and has a time limit and the team has to survive for 5 minutes against it and it's onslaught.

[cgtrfghj7]

I'm not quite sure how you have gathered over 1200 hours into MP if there's so much to complain about. The feedback helps, I guess. But as a hobby, how can you stand so much BS and still play?

That being said, /signed. Either remove spawn immunity or give players revive immunity.

[llandwynwyn]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Remove it, or give us revive immunity. It's only fair.

This, this and this.