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[Ziegrif]

Air Quotes wrote...

Y'know, this is one of those stupid BSN arguments that are completely pointless and eventually go absolutely nowhere. And this started over prefrences, PREFRENCES! That's like starting an argument over MUSIC TASTES.

So here's Saruman with a guitar.



**** this ****! I'm getting drunk!... Except I don't have any alcohol so SUGAR will have to do!

Modifié par Ziegrif, 09 février 2013 - 11:40 .

[immanji]

are any of those guys playing you Air Quotes?

[Cyonan]

Much like the Phantom's 90% DR, enemy immortality does not actually exist.

They do get pretty high amounts of DR when spawning, though.

[immanji]

Air Quotes wrote...

immanji wrote...

are any of those guys playing you Air Quotes?

 

No. It's just an example. 

aw,  

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...
And there's SO MANY of these little things that favor the enemy and punish the players it's insane. 

Then why do we win all the time?

[Cyonan]

Air Quotes wrote...
So high that they don't take visible damage. Even when shot with the most powerful weapons on a most powerful weapons characters. 

It woudn't be so bad if the spawns weren't so f'ed up. But there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do when something appears out of thin air right in your face and start elbowing and shooting you while being completely bullet-proof. 

And there's SO MANY of these little things that favor the enemy and punish the players it's insane. 

Point out multiple instances of that occurring in the video from Sirian(as in give me timestamps) then.

All cases also must show the health/shield bar of the unit after a hit, or else it doesn't count as it could have simply wounded the target.

[Schachmatt123]

Cyonan wrote...

Much like the Phantom's 90% DR, enemy immortality does not actually exist.

They do get pretty high amounts of DR when spawning, though.

Why do I need to pump a fully extended Typhoon mag into them when I'm hosting, but only a few shots with the same setup when playing off host?

Modifié par Schachmatt, 10 février 2013 - 12:02 .

[megabeast37215]

Cyonan wrote...
Point out multiple instances of that occurring in the video from Sirian(as in give me timestamps) then.

All cases also must show the health/shield bar of the unit after a hit, or else it doesn't count as it could have simply wounded the target.

I've nuked spawns with rockets before and on rare instances, the rocket will knock a Nemesis/Rocket Trooper to the ground like it's unconscious, but it still has full health/shields.

[Cyonan]

Schachmatt wrote...
Why do I need to pump a fully extended Typhoon mag into them when I'm hosting, but only a few shots with the same setup when playingoff host?

Because it's actually 75% DR.

The false info comes from people believing that her DR doubles up to 90% while she's flipping on-host, but this is not the case.

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...
Do we? 

We do.

I haven't wiped in weeks.

[Cyonan]

Air Quotes wrote...

It's only a 10 minute video. Watch it. 

1:40 beginning of wave 2.

Jay headshots and kills a Centurion immediately after spawning.

If they had immunity, that would not have happened.

Modifié par Cyonan, 10 février 2013 - 12:04 .

[Muhkida]

Fix the current issue where enemies may spawn on top of you (whether you are soloing or not) and this spawn immunity won't seem like such a big deal.

[AlexMBrennan]

If the game is too hard with (alleged) spawn immunity, play on an easier setting. There's nothing wrong per se with making enemies invulnerable on spawn (Mann vs Machine does that) or making them spawn behind your lines.

[Cyonan]

Air Quotes wrote...
4 seconds after they spawned. And they have immunity. 

4 seconds before the killfeed shows up was before they had even announced wave 2 beginning(plus it's 6 seconds of DR so it wouldn't actually have mattered).

Assuming they spawned immediately when Wave 2 showed up on-screen, then it was 2 seconds after spawning.

Unless you're going to start telling me that enemies now also spawn in between the waves.

[ryoldschool]

I think the game would be more interesting if you could not nuke a spawn. If they did that they would also have to prevent them from spawning on top of you.

But it's part of the game, so that 3 second immunity is what we have to work with, and I'm ok with that. It certainly does not seem to to prevent spawn nuking right now.