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[GhostAndrew]

Probably there are billions of this thread and I'm sorry about opening a new topic, but I checked a couple of similar topics and I found that they don't "fit" good with my situation. So, here I am asking your opinion about: I started playing from the beginning the Dragon Age saga again, with new character, new romance (Leliana) etc., because I wasn't satisfied complitely about my last storyline. Now, my dilemma is: 3 years ago, when I played for the first time DA:O, I didn't own any dlc, Awakening neither and that time I've chosen to not doing the dark ritual with Morrigan and to sacrifice my hero. Now I own the Ultimate Edition, and I have intention to play the dlc+awakening also and I am at the moment of the dark ritual, so now I want to ask you: for the sake of the plot of the dlcs, is it better to choose to do the dark ritual and save my hero for awakening, golem and witch hunt (and for DA3 maybe? ok avoid this question off topic) or is it better to let him die for the sake of the Ferelden? I would say that I don't like the idea to use Alistair to make the ritual (or Loghain). Also, I started Awakening with a new character just to see how it looks, and it looks...odd. I mean, there's no mention of "the hero of Ferelden", it is like you play another game, another story (and no, I don't want to import a dead character, it's odd as well! xD). So, tell me, even if odd, is it better if I let my hero die (so avoid the ritual) and do the dlcs with a new character, or make the ritual and do the dlcs with my hero? Is the storyline better in this case? Tell me, please.
P.S.Sorry for the lenght of the thread and sorry for my english, I did my best! xD

[FearTheLiving]

Personally I like doing the Dark Ritual with my character mainly because he romanced Morrigan and it ends nicely for him at the end of Witch Hunt after the other DLCs)

There are other ways you could have your Warden live if you do not want to do the Dark Ritual. At the end you could always have Alistair or Loghain make the final blow.

As to your question as if it feels better with your Warden? Yes I think so people may enjoy doing the Ultimate Sacrifice but Awakening has some really cool things if you import your Warden and many little references from Origins if you completed a lot of the quests and such. I think your best bet is to at least try it and see how you like it with your import, and if you don't like how your character turns out create a new one.

[mousestalker]

There is one small bonus to playing Awakening with a fresh character. There are a couple of bugs that affect characters that are imported (The Silverite Mine bug being the big one). By using a fresh Warden Commander you avoid that issue. You also avoid the problem of over-leveling. The default warden in Awakening is leveled properly to give you a challenging game. An imported Warden could possibly be too powerful.

[GhostAndrew]

moustalker, in your experience, what's been your choice? You saved your warden? Or you sacrificed him? My concern is about the plot, I noticed in my little try with the fresh warden that the plot is "cold". I mean, no references about the hero of ferelden, I recruited Oghren in the Grey Wardens and he behave like a new character...that's what is bugging me! :/ I'm not sure if I want to keep my warden dead just because of the plot, that's why I'm asking if it is good if I keep him alive also to play awakening and dlcs, or the plot is still good with the new warden.

[Ferretinabun]

If you are worried about plot then I am sorry to report doing the Ultimate Sacrifice is problematic.

The chief problem is that if you doing the Ultimate Sacrifice, you cannot import your choices into Awakenings and the DLC's which follow (Golems of Amgarrak and Witch Hunt). If you start Awakenings with a new Orlesian Warden, the pre-existing state of Ferelden is decided for you - Alistair is King, for example. Yes, this did cause a big fuss when Awakenings first came out, but no, Bioware did not (or was not able to) do anything about it.

If you do the Ultimate Sacrifice at the end of Origins, your choices are:

1) to magically bring your warden back to life for Awakenings somehow (in a way that is never explained or referenced in-game but you can make up your own explanation if you like. Big plot problem), or
2) start with a new Orlesian Warden and a pre-determined set of Origins choices.

This is an issue because DA2 imports decisions that you made, not only in Origins, but in Awakenings as well. So if you want DA2 to recognise the decisions you made in Origins AND Awakenings, then you cannot start Awakenings with the new Orlesian Warden.

In short, I'm afraid the Ultimate Sacrifice ending does not gel well if you want to continue the story of Dragon Age past Origins.

But either of the other options are perfectly viable. You can sacrifice the Other Warden (Alistair or Loghain) or you can perform the Dark Ritual. Neither of these carry plot continuity problems (though they do carry consequences).

[GhostAndrew]

So, it is better if you keep your warden alive, right? It is better for the plot, I mean.

[Ferretinabun]

Yes, it is much better to keep your warden alive. There are no problems with the plot if you use your warden for Awakenings and the DLC.

[GhostAndrew]

Ok then...let's keep the warden alive! Thank you very much for the advice.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

mousestalker wrote...

There is one small bonus to playing Awakening with a fresh character. There are a couple of bugs that affect characters that are imported (The Silverite Mine bug being the big one). By using a fresh Warden Commander you avoid that issue.

This sounds like something to be avoided.

You also avoid the problem of over-leveling. The default warden in Awakening is leveled properly to give you a challenging game. An imported Warden could possibly be too powerful.

Not so much.

[w0lfam0da1s]

I play a couple of ways. Killing my warden and saving them by the DR and also saving them by killing of Loghain or Alistair. I also have started Awakening with the Orlesian warden. I liked how the story took on a diffrent life depending on your choice. Also I did't see any downfall in any DA2 with an Orlesian warden import. Maybe didn't pay attention or someting. DA2 doesn't realy have that impact with any decision you've made from the previous games. Maybe DA3 will. Also your background plays a part as far as if your fellow wardens and softorth are friendly or not. So I would suggest playing a few times to see the diffrence. It's all based on how you play and what kind of "conection" you are going for. There is no right or wrong way. Just keep that in mind when you do play.