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[FrobergDK]

When Mass 3 was released, I initially didn't buy it because I didn't like the overwhelmingly negative reception it got, not to mention that I couldn't get it on Steam either.

Seems they won't be changing their stance and will force Origin down my throat, whether I like it or not, and I really want to finish this trilogy.

So, the price is now at 149 dkk - which equates to roughly 27$ usd. Is it worth it, or should I just wait longer? Does the ending still blow chunks and break with the format the entire series had established up to that point? Is it even worth it getting any of the dlc, or is it weak?

Cheers.

[Zoffer]

hej så lige du var fra danmark. hvis jeg var dig ville jeg købe 3eren dlcs er fede, og der kommer snart en ny dlc, selv om jeg syntes 2eren er bedst så kan stadig godt lig 3eren, og det er pengene værd og hvis du ikke ved om du vil købe dlcerne oven i så spil det først også køb dlcs
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hey so you were from Denmark. If I were you I would buy third the story is good and DLCs are good, and there will soon have a new dlc, although I thought me2 is the best. but it does not change that me3 is also good and it is worth the money and if you do not know whether to buy the DLCs before playing the game. then play it first and then purchase DLCs

[FrobergDK]

New DLC? Guess it's better to wait even longer for the DLC to be available as one pack, then.

[melonsmasher86]

ill say its worth it if you are a fan. knowing EA they probably wont do that anytime soon..

[PsiFive]

Unfortunately the ending was improved - I say 'unfortunately' because I'd say it was only improved, not fixed, and because the story always had so much more wrong with it than just the ending. Even the good bits that are generally well regarded and pack an emotional punch tend to have something about them that seems a bit contrived if you start to think about things from characters' perspective too much, and it's hard to shake the feeling that some of what we did in ME1 & 2 just didn't matter all that much. Did you tell the Quarians not to go to war with the Geth? Didn't matter, because they do anyway. If the message is that some events are just too big to be derailed by one individual that'd be fair enough, but frankly the story doesn't feel even that deep and would be contradicted by some, arguably all, of the endings.

I'd say buy it, but buy it for the lowest price you can, waiting longer if necessary and maybe even considering buying a pre-owned copy if the online pass isn't important to you. I've played enough of it to know I really don't want to pay more than I did for the first two, which was ten dollars each, especially when you can't avoid bloody Origin installing with it. I'd like to charge EA of rent hard drive space just for that.

[FrobergDK]

Yeah Origin is what really irks me.. I really want to play it and finish the trilogy, but unlike previous instalments - I decided against pre-ordering and getting the collectors edition.

[ME_Fan]

I have no idea what you're talking about, there's nothing wrong with Origin, it does it's job fine. Mass Effect 3 is a brilliant game, from what you've written it seems like too much of the negativity has gotten to you. Yes Mass 3 does have a few flaws, but overall it is an extremely high quality, enjoyable product, well worth 60 usd, so don't let the idiot haters get to you.

[FrobergDK]

ME_Fan wrote...

I have no idea what you're talking about, there's nothing wrong with Origin, it does it's job fine. Mass Effect 3 is a brilliant game, from what you've written it seems like too much of the negativity has gotten to you. Yes Mass 3 does have a few flaws, but overall it is an extremely high quality, enjoyable product, well worth 60 usd, so don't let the idiot haters get to you.

I'm on Steam. I used to have Impulse/Gamestop - but now I have all the games that were exclusive there on Steam as well. I use GoG and Steam - GOG as it has no client, and Steam as my only client-based games distribution platform.
I have no desire for a new one, no matter how well it does it's job.

The only reason I am even contemplating it, is to finish the trilogy I've spent so much time on. I don't wish to spend too much money for being forced to use a client that runs on my system.
But it looks like there's more DLC coming, so might as well wait even longer before I get the game, it's already at half price after all.

[EnvyTB075]

ME3 takes your time and effort put into the first two games, cuts it into tiny bits and pieces with a chainsaw and ejects it into space via the Normandys trash compactor. It doesn't care what you've done, it doesn't matter in the end game.

The "new" DLC's pants on head retarded. One basically adds vital story elements that should have been included the first time round, and the other is essentially Cerberus Multiplayer with a tonne of bugs that haven't been fixed.

Yes, i'm bitter.

[FrobergDK]

I don't care about multiplayer. It started as a Single Player game, and that's what drew me to it. :-)

Are you referring to DLC that's already out? I saw that they are about to release another one, soonish. I usually like to get the DLC available for a game.. is it worth getting this time around or does it not matter? If not, maybe I should just shell out the 27 bucks and be done with the story.

[Zuzu Mumu]

ME_Fan wrote...

I have no idea what you're talking about, there's nothing wrong with Origin, it does it's job fine. Mass Effect 3 is a brilliant game, from what you've written it seems like too much of the negativity has gotten to you. Yes Mass 3 does have a few flaws, but overall it is an extremely high quality, enjoyable product, well worth 60 usd, so don't let the idiot haters get to you.

Origin blows , i preordered ME3 and i had it as soon as it came out and because of origin smartasses i couldn;t play online for 2 weeks , there were tons of threads here on the forums about Origin and theird fail program and patches/updates. Steam is easy , doesn't consume nowhere near the resources that origin wants + it is simply fail , their whole system is wrong. I am on steam and have been on it for years now , 70% of my games collection comes from steam because it's easy ,reliable ,and fast. Origin is full of unecessary crap is all im saying and almost all of us , mass effect fans , we are not happy with it. Like a poster above me said , we should charge EA money for hard disk space for having us install origin with no reason. Hosting is expensive nowdays , why should they get it for free?
What next? should we also install 2 trojans , 1 keylogger and a permanent firewall open port just to play a game they published and also failed ? no thx
Lucky for them i review games and i play them on PC and all consoles available and i don't have to put up with Origin on consoles. Otherwise  , i wouldn;t have bought this game simply because it wants me to install a third party program. Which me and about 80% of the gaming community are not ok with.

Modifié par Zuzu Mumu, 11 février 2013 - 08:18 .

[FrobergDK]

I would give that a thumbs of, were that an option on this forum.

[Vargas78]

It's a good game. I'm playing through it now for first time. (Have been playing trilogy back to back since xmas). I'm aware the ending was a bit crap and it was improved. And that since being improved its still not as awesome as initially promised but at least its better.

Whatever the ending, i'm enjoying it a lot. It does feel like you are taking part in a big galactic war, epic in scale. It is more action oriented than the earlier two, which some say means its dumbed down. But i disagree because it's compatible to the story, the first two were just a lead up to the war. And wars are meant to be action packed.

[FrobergDK]

Remember Baldur's Gate? Plenty of wars there - but lots of content, lots of role-playing opportunities. One does not exclude the other.

[EnvyTB075]

FrobergDK wrote...

I don't care about multiplayer. It started as a Single Player game, and that's what drew me to it. :-)

Are you referring to DLC that's already out? I saw that they are about to release another one, soonish. I usually like to get the DLC available for a game.. is it worth getting this time around or does it not matter? If not, maybe I should just shell out the 27 bucks and be done with the story.

....um, ok, but i'm not talking about the MP, i knew exactly what you were talking about and referred to the SP DLC.

Compared to the ME2 DLC (which i have bought again for the PC version of the game), ME3's DLC is not worth the money. Sure you get the story, but theres **** all story to be found.

Vargas78 wrote...

Whatever the ending, i'm enjoying it a
lot. It does feel like you are taking part in a big galactic war, epic
in scale. It is more action oriented than the earlier two, which some
say means its dumbed down. But i disagree because it's compatible to
the story, the first two were just a lead up to the war. And wars are
meant to be action packed.

This is a real war. Wars are not action packed. Wars are slow, tactical beasts, properly emulated in ME2. ME3 is dumbed down because its a generic shooter at heart, indistinguishable from a multitude of Third Person Shooters on the market, not because theres more action.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 12 février 2013 - 12:19 .

[FrobergDK]

Shame they can't even get the DLC right anymore.. screw it, should probably just go picked up a used copy at Gamestop or blockbuster and be done with it.

Shame what EA has done to BioWare. Shame!

[Vargas78]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

This is a real war. Wars are not action packed. Wars are slow, tactical beasts, properly emulated in ME2. ME3 is dumbed down because its a generic shooter at heart, indistinguishable from a multitude of Third Person Shooters on the market, not because theres more action.

It does recreate the sense of a galactic war well, and the reaper war is intense and action packed. Not a war of surgical strikes and peace keeping like most modern wars (though there is an element of surgical strike with the crucible i guess, theres still battles all over the galaxy, either implied or there to partake in like the palaven moon. Heck, the eastern front of ww2 was intense and action packed and thats a skirmish in the park compared to ME3.

You have to take into account that Shepard is not the grand strategist, thats Hacketts job.  And for all its action packed shooting you are still an agent as well as a soldier and still spend plenty of time travelling the galaxy looking for war materials, assets and talking to would be allies. Because of this it is distinguishable from the multitude of 3rd person shooters on the market and other than not having to scan planets for resources it is still very similar to ME2 in this respect.

Modifié par Vargas78, 12 février 2013 - 11:00 .

[Vargas78]

Just keep your eyes peeled for an amazon promotion Frobert. Even origin occasionally has promotions like when i got it for xmas.

[Zoffer]

Vargas78 I agree:)
you should also be aware that the plot is a huge war history. Unlike the others, me3 is more public war
no one can avoid the war so it is a little more obvious that there is more battle in the game
you can then discounting whether it is good or not with more battle

[PsiFive]

A huge war history? Recreates the sense of a galactic war well? Really, this is one of the things I thought the ME3 story stuffed up worst, worse even than the endings and the Starbrat. Despite Reaper numbers the galaxy is vast and its civilizations dispersed - you'd expect the war to be measured in lifetimes. Established canon, confirmed in ME3 by Javik, is that the Protheans lost their war slowly over several centuries, and that's with the Reapers' advantage of being able to use their preferred sneak attack ****** the Citadel and controlling the regularity network. Yet the feeling is that the galactic war in ME3 is over in weeks, a few months at most. Even ignoring the miraculous discovery of the Reaper off switch, which was built incredibly quickly for such a large structure, the war was progressing far too fast with the Reapers more or less taking at least three homeworlds and being present on at least two more. The first two games felt to me like they'd introduce a war so big that many future games and stories could be set against the backdrop of a centuries long fight. Shepard's story would be just the beginning of the war, taking back Earth just the first battle. Instead it's like someone telling the story of WW2 in a couple of paragraphs.

[Vargas78]

PsiFive, the mass effect relay speeds up conquest a lot. And the Protheans only lost the war over several centuries because the Prothean Empire was much more powerful in military might and technology than the galaxy in its present cycle. It was a unified militaristic empire that took pride in strength. Species in that cycle had also evolved more advanced mental powers with which to communicate to aid coordination in battle. In open warfare they could practically go toe to toe with reapers but couldnt pursist in the long game. Over time they couldnt recover from losses and there was the impact of morale and indoctrination.

As for the crucible its fast construction time does not surprise me. You are looking at things from the perspective of early 21st century industry which not only is technologically more dated and limited, but is done from a national/corporate context. Mass Effect 3 industry is much more advanced thanks to human progress and tech from alien allies. Humanity is also putting everything into its civilisations capacity to build the project. No expense is spared and while the loss of earth was a blow to industrial output, humanity still has plenty of dedicated industrial worlds. And help from allies in term of materials and advice on the project.

P.S. be careful of revealing spoilers, I knew the crucible was a kind of weapon but didnt need to know it was effectively an off switch!

Modifié par Vargas78, 13 février 2013 - 09:52 .

[Zoffer]

vargas78 not a big spoiler but a littel one but only if you have from the ashes dlc
PsiFive have you from the ashes dlc?
javik tells commander shepard last in the game that his pepoel never was unitet and had the final battel aginst the reapers.
PsiFive you are right the war are kind a fast not even a year it took. and it took many 100 years to kil all the protheans

Modifié par Zoffer, 13 février 2013 - 10:38 .

[WEDhicks]

Frankly I don't even understand why you haven't bought Mass Effect 3 yet after playing the first two games. It's cleary not the best game of the three but still it's an enjoyable ride and an ending to one of the greatest series out there.

[PsiFive]

MILD SPOILERS

First, Javik has dialogue that strongly suggests the Reapers should have a harder time in the current cycle, plus there's the very important bit that I mentioned before: the Reapers were able to use their Plan A against the Protheans and were able to do it with complete surprise. Despite Shepard being largely ignored allowing similar though probably not quite as complete surprise, the Reapers are having to do something they've never done before: use a different plan of attack. Seriously, is it credible that these superintelligent entities screwed so badly that they didn't realise they could do the job in weeks mob handed instead of using the surprise blitz via the Citadel? Even if we buy the excuse that the Protheans were that much harder to beat and ignore that the Reapers are doing things in a way they're not familiar with does it seem likely that it'd shorten the war in the Reapers' favour by a factor of, what, a thousand or so? Several centuries down to one or two, maybe. Even decades would be just about believable even if not all that plausible. But a few months? Sorry, nope.

And I wasn't saying construction of the Crucible (I was trying to avoid spoilers by not mentioning the name - sorry, should have tried harder there) was unrealistic by our standards. I was saying out was unrealistic in universe. Think about it - how long did construction of the Normandy SR2 take? Best part of two years. Yes, before Cerberus had quite so many resources (another annoying part of 3) but vastly smaller. Alternatively look at how much rebuilding got done in the same time. Nothing after Sovereign's attack is complete, and these are council races with planetary resources operating in the open. And look at colony buildings - no huge cities showing extremely fast construction tech, just prefabricated looking units. Now suddenly they can build something on a similar scale to the Citadel itself in a short space of time while there's a war on? And the prophecy lead by humanity, the newest and so least advanced of the spacefaring races. If anything before had hinted at such capability it'd be fine, but it just doesn't. The evidence in the games suggests it's a bloody huge project, and even with all the help it's impossible to believe they built it so quick when the Protheans ran out of time despite their war lasting centuries. The Protheans could have discovered the plans only weeks before they were finally defeated of course, but that then raises the question of how the hell they got the plans to Mars.

Bottom line, ME3's plot is full of holes and internal inconsistencies, and most critics were so busy screaming at the ending controversy to notice. Don't get me wrong, I know almost all fiction falls apart when examined too critically, bit this has some real howlers. Acceptable in a lightweight TPS but it's sad when you think it could have been so much more than just a TPS.

[PsiFive]

WEDhicks, I've not bought it because I've played through enough of it at a mate's to rate it as a ten dollar game, tops. Sorry, I really do think the story is that weak. When it's on sale that cheap I'll probably get it, or maybe if I see a pre-owned one for that kind of money since the online pass is worthless to me anyway. But right now retailers here still want about A$60 last I checked, and the game simply isn't worth anything like that to me. YMMV of course, and fair play to anyone who does feel they got their money's worth.