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[errant_knight]

I won't be pickpocketing with this characther, but I'll try it with another one up the road. Do Wynne or Alistair object?

[SusanStoHelit]

Nope - no-one does, not even the person whose pocket you pick - and they watch you do it!

[Zachriel]

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

[errant_knight]

Zachriel wrote...

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

I've definitely been too noble about that sort of thing. I don't think my character would ask for more, but I've been refusing rewards unless they insist. Missed out on the Ancient Elven Boots by not needing a reward.

Modifié par errant_knight, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:10 .

[jsachun]

errant_knight wrote...

Zachriel wrote...

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

I've definitely been too noble about that sort of thing. I don't think my character would ask for more, but I've been refusing rewards unless they insist. Missed out on the Ancient Elven Boots by not needing a reward.

It's do or die. I didn't feel too noble doing some of the side quests for money either. But darn, only one who can help you regain the status is the king. And he's GONER. 

Modifié par jsachun, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:18 .

[errant_knight]

jsachun wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Zachriel wrote...

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

I've definitely been too noble about that sort of thing. I don't think my character would ask for more, but I've been refusing rewards unless they insist. Missed out on the Ancient Elven Boots by not needing a reward.

It's do or die. I didn't feel too noble doing some of the side quests for money either. But darn, only one who can help you regain the status is the king. And he's GONER. 

Yeah, but you don't have to. I got through on my first playthrough taking no rewards and only using found armor. Heck, my PC was still using veridium chain mail. The only reason I'm trying to get more money this time is that I want to see what some of these items are to satisfy my curiosity. The game wasn't patched on that playthrough, either, so I found significantly less cash on corpses. I had to watch my cashflow to make sure I had enough money for poition ingredients before tough fights, and buy almost nothing but gifts and a couple of backpacks from sellers, but it's doable. I think there's probably a happy medium, though.

Modifié par errant_knight, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:29 .

[jsachun]

errant_knight wrote...

Yeah, but you don't have to. I got through on my first playthrough taking no rewards and only using found armor. Heck, my PC was still using veridium chain mail. The only reason I'm trying to get more money this time is that I want to see what some of these items are to satisfy my curiosity. The game wasn't patched on that playthrough, either, so I found significantly less cash on corpses. I had to watch my cashflow to make sure I had enough money for poition ingredients before tough fights, and buy almost nothing but gifts and a couple of backpacks from sellers, but it's doable.
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That's probably why you are having money problems. Do the deep road quest & travel back to Oszammer now & then & sell. I find Oszammer to be most rewarding, besides the Landsmeet Quests.  

Modifié par jsachun, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:32 .

[sassperella]

Also I've noticed if you hand in a group of quests to the irregulars, mages or the chantry board you only receive payment for one of them. So for more cash do them one at a time, a pain I know, but some are several sovereigns reward.

[Yrkoon]

sassperella wrote...

Also I've noticed if you hand in a group of quests to the irregulars, mages or the chantry board you only receive payment for one of them. So for more cash do them one at a time, a pain I know, but some are several sovereigns reward.

I'm fairly certain  that if you hand in more than one quest at a time,  the cash reward is given to you in one lump sum.  Which is why you'll sometimes get like 4 sovereigns as a reward.  You're still getting paid for all of them that you turn in

[TSamee]

Loads and loads of awesome suggestions here, but here's my two cents (Recently bought a dagger for 148g, had 90g to spare):



1: Don't trash any loot you might find. Upgrading bag-space helps a lot (I'm at 90 slots right now, it serves me well). Unless you craft, drop off any soul stones, frozen lightning, etc. that you find later on, as it's worth about 2 silver a piece, and most other loot is between 10s and 3g.



2. Go to Orzammar, now. It was a huge money-maker for me, and I haven't had anything to do with the thug (no "bad" decisions made, unless you find siding with Bhelen bad). The sheer amount of Darkspawn weapons (20-50-odd silver per weapon) and armour sets you find in the Deep Roads is frightening. A complete hardened (t5, I believe) duster set adds up to 1g50 or 1g90, and I managed to get about five sets down there. There's also dwarven heavy armour (the armour itself sells for at least 2g, more often 3g50, without boots or gloves), quite a few uniques which you might find you don't need (Branka's mace if you decide to kill her, the Topsider's Honor sword, armour of the Legion), and some rare heavy armour (parts of the Armour of diligence or whatever it's called), and, of course, at least three sets of heavy mail and other heavy armour, all worth at least 1g each.



Add this to the gold you get off monsters in the Deep Roads (as much as 1g50 off a monster, 70-90s most of the time, and occasionally as low as 20s), and you should now be swimming in it (I went from about 110g to 250 while in Orzammar)



3. Prepare to be banged up. I get most of my poultices from dead bodies, and I didn't recruit Wynne at all (great healer, but on my last playthrough she got mad at me for siding with Bhelen, yet she saw the woman who'd been permanently crippled by the guards because of the Caste system, whic Harrowmont wants to make stricter). Due to lack of available healing supplies in Orzammar, Oghren had up to twelve injuries at a time in the Deep Roads. Also, be prepared to load old saves quite a lot, as tough fights on low resources often lead to death.



4. Do as many side-quests as possible. I've cleared all Chantry boards up to the Landsmeet, done quite a few quests for the Blackstone Irregulars and the Mages' Collective, as well as Favours for Certain Interested Parties, and as many side quests as I could find (and was morally okay with. I was playing the typical good guy here). Adds up to about 20g in total. But quite a few of the Interested Parties quests don't pay well, so don't bother if you're morally against it.



Loot spots: The Temple of the Cult of Andraste (Urn of Sacred Ashes) Though it's nowhere near as loot-packed as the Deep Roads, there are quite a few valuable uniques there (Blood Mage amulet, Arcane Warrior sword, etc.)



The werewolf ruins in Nature of the Beast. There's a dragon which you have to kill (crappy little one, not a High Dragon) to get into the lower floor, and its horde (big, sparkly pile of gold) contains 15g, a couple of heavy armours, salves and healing supplies



I'm nowhere near as rich as some people, but the whole "mass valuable-looking loot, sell, repeat" strategy means that I'm carrying 90g at the moment, just before the Landsmeet, after buying The Rose's Thorn for 148g, and about four skill books (adding up to 60-odd gold), as well as stacks of Greater and Potent poultices for boss battles.



It's simple, but don't underestimate the whole "loot, quest, loot some more" strategy.

[Minimess]

jsachun wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

I also highly recommend spending 1 point on stealing, then doing Slim's quests in Denerim. they all pay big.

It's more rewarding for rogues. Beacuse you need at least 1 point in stealth & steal to get the full set of quests. One or the other, you only get half of it.

I was able to get both steath and stealing quests on my Mage by just having stealing.  In one of the first dialogs with Slim, he asks what your "skillset" is.  You can reply with "both" as long as you have just one. :-)

And yeah the "lyrium to Godwin" quest from Dust town is nice - with the right persusion you can pick up the lyrium for 40 S, sell it Godwin for 65 S, then shake him down for another 8 to not tell Gregoir.  Then head back to Dust Town and claim the "finders fee" from Rogek - another 25 S (if you persuade him for 30).  An easy 58 S profit!

Modifié par Minimess, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:05 .

[TSamee]

Oh, and it's very useful to spec lockpicking if you've got a rogue PC, as you've had full control of their stats since the beginning and thus can incorporate it into your build while still doing damage. It's slightly harder with Leli, and more so with Zev, partly because of the level you find him at and the fact that he's already developed down some trees. Also, you'll want as much damage as possible if you've got Zev in your party, as positioning is the most crucial part of playing rogue. Leave him to his own devices, and he'll rush at mobs once you attack, and be torn to pieces if your tank isn't effective enough.

[Carodej]

Besides all the rest of the good tips here, consider playing as a Dwarf Noble on your next time through the game. Your loyal second, Gorim, actually does give you a break on prices (you may have noticed him as a merchant in Denerim). While some merchants talk discount, Gorim really delivers. He will give you the lowest markup in the game, charging only 110% of the base value of the item. But the best part is he buys everything from you, assuming you chose Dwarf Noble origin, at 50% of value instead of the 25% of value that all other merchants pay. So making trips to Denerim to sell off all of your loot really pays big (especially when you start finding tier 7 armor).

[kgav]

errant_knight wrote...

Zachriel wrote...

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

I've definitely been too noble about that sort of thing. I don't think my character would ask for more, but I've been refusing rewards unless they insist. Missed out on the Ancient Elven Boots by not needing a reward.

You are a Grey Warden now not a Knight or a Paladin, you must do what is necessary to end the blight not what is noble. You need gold, weapons and armor to fight the blight. How much is it worth to the people you come across for them to be safe, they should be aiding you and if they don't offer that aid freely then you should remind them. Grey Wardens do what they must they have the right of conscription they can force people to join, they'd be willing to take some gold of it help end the blight.

I did my first play through unaided, I wanted to just experience the game fresh, but it was tough that way I knew I was missing a lot. On my second play through I went to http://dragonage.wikia.com

especially http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Item_Sets most of the item set items are found with 1 or 2 pieces sold by vendors so on my second play through I got ever set of armor complete except the Ancient Elven there is a bug in the PC game that can prevent you from getting the boots

Modifié par kgav, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:34 .

[errant_knight]

kgav wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Zachriel wrote...

I see this was mentioned at least once already, but what the hell I'll reiterate. Get Coercion up. I always go to the mage tower first for the free stat bonses, which allows me to max out my coercion earlier. You can make quite a bit of extra gold by always asking for a reward or asking for more than what they were going to give you anyway.

I've definitely been too noble about that sort of thing. I don't think my character would ask for more, but I've been refusing rewards unless they insist. Missed out on the Ancient Elven Boots by not needing a reward.

You are a Grey Warden now not a Knight or a Paladin, you must do what is necessary to end the blight not what is noble. You need gold, weapons and armor to fight the blight. How much is it worth to the people you come across for them to be safe, they should be aiding you and if they don't offer that aid freely then you should remind them. Grey Wardens do what they must they have the right of conscription they can force people to join, they'd be willing to take some gold of it help end the blight.

I did my first play through unaided, I wanted to just experience the game fresh, but it was tough that way I knew I was missing a lot. On my second play through I went to http://dragonage.wikia.com

especially http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Item_Sets most of the item set items are found with 1 or 2 pieces sold by vendors so on my second play through I got ever set of armor complete except the Ancient Elven there is a bug in the PC game that can prevent you from getting the boots

Yes, but it's not necessary to steal anything to end the blight, it's a choice. There are many ways to play this grey warden, probably as many as own the game. I'm using the wiki a little more, definitely, but I've already discovered most of the stuff, although there may be high level locked chests I've forgotten to go back for at a level I could open then.

[kgav]

well I didn't steal anything on my first play through but Leliana was a little bit of a kleptomaniac, I had to have a talk with that girl. She like shiny things and picketed some pockets when I wasn't looking.

[errant_knight]

kgav wrote...

well I didn't steal anything on my first play through but Leliana was a little bit of a kleptomaniac, I had to have a talk with that girl. She like shiny things and picketed some pockets when I wasn't looking.

Lol! You let her come with you, and look what happens! Crime! Darn bard....

[likeorasgod]

ericsa wrote...

Create potent lyrium potions (travel to the cheapest vendors for the items necessary). U'll make a net win of about 25-30 silver PER potion.

Along with this, creat all your potions....I only use the lessers ones so I create a bunch for cheap to use with my chars and never buy any portions.

Have your rougue pick pocket gives you a little extra too and have dog do searches in diffrent places.  He finds some stuff you can sale.  I easly gain over 300 gold in most my playthroughs....enough to buy atleast three of the high teir special items.  The only armor I buy is for my rouges, cause they get the short end of the stick for drop special armor. Even the mages can get some decent robes from NPC kills.  I allso go back when I level up to recheck chest that I couldn't open before....even if it's cheap crap I won't use I sale it.  I pick up backpacks very early for this reason so I don't have to leave any loot behind.  Almost all areas you can go back and repick up loot you left behind.....and do all the side quest you can.  ALl these things allso help you get up in level.  My first playthrough I finished at level 21, now after 5 players I'm finishing at 24.  Still haven't hit the cap out and I haven't used any of the exploits for xp.

[Yrkoon]

TSamee wrote...


Loot spots: The Temple of the Cult of Andraste (Urn of Sacred Ashes) Though it's nowhere near as loot-packed as the Deep Roads, there are quite a few valuable uniques there (Blood Mage amulet, Arcane Warrior sword, etc.)

Not to mention the High Dragon's hoard, which is rather massive

[Yrkoon]

errant_knight wrote...


Yes, but it's not necessary to steal anything to end the blight, it's a choice.

  Sure, but is the argument  you're making  here a moral one?  Is that the reason you don't want to steal-- because it's not what "good" heros do?    If so, then this is probably not the best game for such pious role-playing.     For example,   you cannot end the blight without breaking and entering,    ie. burglary    ie. what you have to do to advance the main plot just before the landsmeet.    You cannot end the blight without committing murder or manslaughter  (what you have to do countless times in this game).  You cannot end the blight without  politically supporting  corrupt politicians  (what  you  must do in Orzammar)

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 janvier 2010 - 12:22 .

[errant_knight]

Yrkoon wrote...

errant_knight wrote...


Yes, but it's not necessary to steal anything to end the blight, it's a choice.

  Sure, but is the argument  you're making  here a moral one?  Is that the reason you don't want to steal-- because it's not what "good" heros do?    If so, then this is probably not the best game for such pious role-playing.     For example,  is stealing any worse than   breaking and entering,   ie. burglary    ie. what you have to do to advance the main plot just before the landsmeet?  Is stealing any worse than murder or manslaughter  (what you have to do countless times in this game)  Is stealing any worse than politically supporting  corrupt politicians  (what  you  must do in Orzammar?)

That depends on the character that you're playing and their views. What I'm saying is that there is no one way, or right way, to roleplay this game. Personally, I don't think my character ever commits murder or manslaughter, but if that's you're roleplay view, no problem!

Yrkoon wrote...

TSamee wrote...


Loot spots: The Temple of the Cult of Andraste (Urn of Sacred Ashes) Though it's nowhere near as loot-packed as the Deep Roads, there are quite a few valuable uniques there (Blood Mage amulet, Arcane Warrior sword, etc.)

Not to mention the High Dragon's hoard, which is rather massive

Haven't killed any of the non-demon dragons yet, but I'm planning to this time. I'd rather not kill the high dragon, but it seems to cause trouble if I don't, so....

Modifié par errant_knight, 11 janvier 2010 - 12:26 .

[SarEnyaDor]

And remember to make sure you are broke when you got to Goldanna's house for Alistair - I always do my shopping just prior so I have 2 gold or less that way I can still be nice and Alistair will say he's sorry but we don't have any coin to spare at the moment -- I don't feel bad for denying him and the shrew gets none of my hard earned money.