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[HellbirdIV]

Calinstel wrote...

a body to give her form was unneeded.  She was the Normandy.

I think Joker put it well in ME2: "She's not the Normandy, she's IN the Normandy. Like a cancer."

I would have preferred EDI to stay in a digital form myself, but let's not confuse things by saying she "is" the Normandy. She is -a- program inside the Normandy, she does not compose the entirety of the digital systems and she is not the OS the Normandy's systems run on.

Modifié par HellbirdIV, 13 février 2013 - 03:33 .

[SilentK]

Hmm... the new outfit for EDI made life easier for me. Feels less like she is walking around naked on the ship. Just wish that she could use it in cutscenes on the ship as well. Oh well, I'll take what I can get. Now the only thing I would like to be able to do is to stop making sex-jokes about EDI. The dialogue that my FemShep has with EDI is pretty much ok, but whenever a crewmember or someone on the ship refers to EDI it is quite often a joke about her looking the way she does. It gets a little bit irritating over time. If I could have gotten EDI looking more as she does now with the new gear, and taken away all those in-game references to her sexy body I wouldn't be half as concerned about it. Yes she has a sexy body, we can see it clear as daylight. Could you just please stop making fun of it. Imagine if it had been Ash or Tali they talked about that way. Oh, you fixed her, was there any moaning involved, you are top-heavy, now you are a sextoy, wait until that specific person on the ship sees your new sexy body. I have less problem with EDI than how people in the game talks about her. I just can't see anyone talking about another crewmember in that fashion, but perhaps we are used to talking about EDI as an object.

That said, I am less irritated about it now than before. Especially after a female gamer friend showed me the intro to DmC. BioWare does things that irk me sometimes, but they are my safe place as far as feeling comfortable playing a game as a woman. Credit where it's due.

[crimzontearz]

o Ventus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

What if EDI went into a dude robot's body?

Would Joker still want to bang?

what about a hybrid body?

Hybrid like... Dual-gendered?

the pervdom seems to like that...I DARE you to look up ME adult art 

[Yuqi]

crimzontearz wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

What if EDI went into a dude robot's body?

Would Joker still want to bang?

what about a hybrid body?

Hybrid like... Dual-gendered?

the pervdom seems to like that...I DARE you to look up ME adult art 

Yeah, the pervdom does seem to erect strange objects on her.

[crimzontearz]

Yuqi wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

What if EDI went into a dude robot's body?

Would Joker still want to bang?

what about a hybrid body?

Hybrid like... Dual-gendered?

the pervdom seems to like that...I DARE you to look up ME adult art 

Yeah, the pervdom does seem to erect strange objects on her.

oh you are so punny

[Display Name Owner]

Sejborg wrote...

isnudo wrote...
Why not? The Rampart Mech has an omni-blade, part of an omni-tool. Inicinerate and overload are not abilities inherent to the user, they're part of an omni-tool's function, as long as the user knows how to perform it, which evidently EDI does. Not seeing why this is so incredible. Yeah, give EDI a gun, she can shoot things. Give her an omni-tool, she can Incinerate.

Why not? WHY NOT?? Because it can't! Okay? It can't. Have you seen a Rampart use incinerate? No you haven't. Tali has an omnitool, but she don't have the incinerate ability either - now does she? Just stop it. You can't just say: "why not?". Come on.

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How do you think Mordin does incinerate? Ancient Salarian battle magic? He does it with the Omni-tool. It's an ability he's incorporated into his toolkit because it's useful. Tali apparently doesn't find it useful. EDI apparently does. Look, Loki mechs didn't have omni blades either. Cerberus gave them that function. Why is it so hard to believe that if they wanted to, they could outift a Mech with a different set of upgrades? 

Sejborg wrote...
Why don't EDI have a tactical nuclear warhead - just give her remote access to the missiles computer system and there we go. "Why not?"

 
Yeah, you realise this is exactly the sort of thing EDI was built to do, don't you? Cyberwarfare?

Sejborg wrote...
Think the ability to walk through Cerberus force field and having an invulnerability shield that the Rampart has is so fantastic? - just add it to the EVA CORE body! "Why not?" Anything goes (apparently). 

Well, do tell me why not? Look, RM's are mass produced. EVA is a unique model. They can afford to give EVA the mods to fulfil her specific purpose, so they do. I believe the initial point was that a Loki mech or something similar could be upgraded in similar fashion and be equally effective, less silly looking and maybe even more plausible story-wise.

Sejborg wrote...

isnudo wrote...

And the Kodiak crash only caused cosmetic damage to EVA's outer layer. That's no testament to EVA's durability. Any mech should be relatively durable against fire, as long as we're not talking about super-heated material like Incinerate launches. James walked out of the same crash just fine, so it's really not saying much. The difference is that his armour was on the outside, while EVA's was under the skin. 

Newsflash. James was not on fire. James was in a seat, and hit it directly face on, while EVA CORE was hit from the side, so there is also that. And... only cosmetic damage when being on fire? riiight.

EVA was still fully functioning, so yes, cosmetic damage. The body is armoured, in fact it has four big round chunks of armour in certain easy to see places... The point is that armour is no more resilient than James's armour, since their respective armours were undamaged by the crash. Wouldn't the damage being cosmetic actually support your argument, by the way? That EVA's body is so much more durable than others? My argument is that it really isn't that superior to any other mech's or soldier's armour.

Modifié par isnudo, 13 février 2013 - 03:20 .

[Sejborg]

isnudo wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

isnudo wrote...
Why not? The Rampart Mech has an omni-blade, part of an omni-tool. Inicinerate and overload are not abilities inherent to the user, they're part of an omni-tool's function, as long as the user knows how to perform it, which evidently EDI does. Not seeing why this is so incredible. Yeah, give EDI a gun, she can shoot things. Give her an omni-tool, she can Incinerate.

Why not? WHY NOT?? Because it can't! Okay? It can't. Have you seen a Rampart use incinerate? No you haven't. Tali has an omnitool, but she don't have the incinerate ability either - now does she? Just stop it. You can't just say: "why not?". Come on.

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How do you think Mordin does incinerate? Ancient Salarian battle magic? He does it with the Omni-tool. It's an ability he's incorporated into his toolkit because it's useful. Tali apparently doesn't find it useful. EDI apparently does. Look, Loki mechs didn't have omni blades either. Cerberus gave them that function. Why is it so hard to believe that if they wanted to, they could outift a Mech with a different set of upgrades? 

Mordin has the incinerate ability. EVA CORE has the incinerate ability. Tali don't have the incinerate ability. The Rampart don't have the incinerate ability.

You are arguing that the Rampart could be as good (or better) as EVA CORE if you just added enough upgrades. Why do you think that upgrades is limited to the Rampart? EVA CORE could just as well get upgrades to make it even more superior to the Rampart than it already is. You give better weapons to the Rampart in your arguments to make it as good as EVA CORE. But why not also give upgrades to EVA CORE as well then? It's an unfair way to argue your point if you just decide that the Rampart is the only one that get's to have upgrades.

Look at what the EVA CORE can do, and what the Rampart can do. That is the most reasonable way to decide who is the best droid. Don't just add stuff to one of them so it get's better. Stuff could just as well be added to the counterpart - and therefore making that whole argument pointless. 

isnudo wrote...

Sejborg wrote...
Why don't EDI have a tactical nuclear warhead - just give her remote access to the missiles computer system and there we go. "Why not?"

 
Yeah, you realise this is exactly the sort of thing EDI was built to do, don't you? Cyberwarfare?

Yep. But she is not linked up with a missile system all the time. And this is the problem. For some reason it is only allowed to add skills to the Rampart or LOKI. EVA don't get any upgrades. 

isnudo wrote...

Sejborg wrote...
Think the ability to walk through Cerberus force field and having an invulnerability shield that the Rampart has is so fantastic? - just add it to the EVA CORE body! "Why not?" Anything goes (apparently). 

Well, do tell me why not? Look, RM's are mass produced. EVA is a unique model. They can afford to give EVA the mods to fulfil her specific purpose, so they do. I believe the initial point was that a Loki mech or something similar could be upgraded in similar fashion and be equally effective, less silly looking and maybe even more plausible story-wise. 

I'm not discussing looks. I am pointing out that EVA is a better model than the Rampart. As is EVA CORE is simply a better product than the Rampart. 

isnudo wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

isnudo wrote...

And the Kodiak crash only caused cosmetic damage to EVA's outer layer. That's no testament to EVA's durability. Any mech should be relatively durable against fire, as long as we're not talking about super-heated material like Incinerate launches. James walked out of the same crash just fine, so it's really not saying much. The difference is that his armour was on the outside, while EVA's was under the skin. 

Newsflash. James was not on fire. James was in a seat, and hit it directly face on, while EVA CORE was hit from the side, so there is also that. And... only cosmetic damage when being on fire? riiight.

EVA was still fully functioning, so yes, cosmetic damage. The body is armoured, in fact it has four big round chunks of armour in certain easy to see places... The point is that armour is no more resilient than James's armour, since their respective armours were undamaged by the crash. Wouldn't the damage being cosmetic actually support your argument, by the way? That EVA's body is so much more durable than others? My argument is that it really isn't that superior to any other mech's or soldier's armour.

Not all damage is fatal. Just as you say that it took 6 shots to stop EVA CORE, that doesn't mean that the first 5 shots didn't do any damage. EVA CORE was fully functioning after the crash, after being on fire and after being shot 5 times. It was only the 6. shot that stopped it. But all the other things still did damage. 

Do you know the story about all the animals that should travel across the lake in a small boat? An elephant, giraffe, lion, dog, bear, cat and leopard all went onboard - but it was only when the mouse got onboard that the boat couldn't take any more weight and sank. 

Modifié par Sejborg, 13 février 2013 - 05:32 .