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[Neizd]

Nuked her, so no more hate for her since ME1

[Edolix]

Silvair wrote...

"I can't tell the aliens from the animals!"

That is racist.

I'm pretty sure that's a glitch. I made a thread regarding that quote a couple of months ago and apparently she's only supposed to say that around the Keeper in the human embassy.

[The Night Mammoth]

Paladin14 wrote...

I understand why people might get rubbed the wrong way but I have a few counterarguments to some of the Ash hate.

3. Ashley doesn't stop mistrusting you because of Cerberus. As a member of the military would you trust someone who fought alongside the enemy right away? You'd have to rebuild the trust back up.

I'd give my former friend the benefit of the doubt and allow them the opportunity to explain, and at least have a go at examining the situation in a somewhat logical manner. 

Things Ashley didn't do. She's like a horse with blinders, all she sees is Shepard and Cerberus. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 11 février 2013 - 09:48 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

People like to hate on Ashley because it's easy and this is the internet.

[Walsh1980]

In ME1 she's a great character, rascist and religious, whether you love or hate her, she at least gets some kind of rise (hur hur). But she's easily the most disappointing payoff in ME3. There's no discussion or evolution of what she was in part 1, just "I don't trust you", "look I'm drunk", "barbecue" (sister part's her highlight). That's why Kaiden is alive on 4/6 of my chosen imports.

Modifié par Walsh1980, 11 février 2013 - 10:06 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Her cosmetic change in 3 didn't help.

I disagree. Her updated character model (like all the other updated models) looks better than the original. They let her hair down and gave her some make up. No harm done.

[Biotic Sage]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Her cosmetic change in 3 didn't help.

I disagree. Her updated character model (like all the other updated models) looks better than the original. They let her hair down and gave her some make up. No harm done.

Definitely looks better to me too.  Also that armor is awesome.  If they didn't include the armor in the game, then I'd be crackin' my knuckles.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 11 février 2013 - 10:22 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Definitely looks better to me too.  Also that armor is awesome.  If they didn't include the armor in the game, then I'd be crackin' my knuckles.

Blue and white is probably my favorite color combination. So, naturally I love her new armor. I tried to replicate it with my Shepard but I couldn't get the right blue tint. That still kinda irks me even after all this time.

[Vargas78]

She is annoying. She hates to acknowledge when she is wrong which is a bad trait. People like that are unlikely to learn from their mistakes.

[Clayless]

"I can't tell the aliens from the animals."

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

[Biotic Sage]

Robosexual wrote...

"I can't tell the aliens from the animals."

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

I admit, these aren't very endearing statements to make haha.

But then again, I like Jaime Lannister as a character and he pushed a kid out of a window and does the humpty dance with his own sister...so maybe some people see Ashley as a flawed, but interesting and certainly not irredeemable character.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Robosexual wrote...

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

Would you trust someone who worked for a terrorist organization IRL? I wouldn't.

[The Night Mammoth]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

Would you trust someone who worked for a terrorist organization IRL? I wouldn't.

I'd at least give them a chance to explain. 

If Ashley had down that she'd have realized she was completely wrong about everything. 

[Clayless]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

Would you trust someone who worked for a terrorist organization IRL? I wouldn't.

Me- "You were working with a terrorist organisation! Even though I love you, how can I trust you again??"

"Well I was only working with them to stop the people that were abducting and killing hundreds of thousands of Humans. You saw this yourself. We did stop them and then I turned myself in, and our ex-squadmates who aren't even Human even told you this."

Things I wouldn't say in response to that:

"Shutup you were working with a terrorist organisation how can I trust you! (times 10)."

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Ashley is gangsta. I really like both Kaidan and Ashley. I hate to have to choose between them. It's just that with a femShepard in ME3 she goes off a lot more about Cerberus than Kaidan and it drives me nuts.

Now that I'm going through and "filming" my ME play soon I am wondering if there is a way of taking the ME3 Ash tex mod into ME1 and ME2 for consistency.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 11 février 2013 - 11:11 .

[1337b0r0m1r]

Silvair wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Because she's probably the most realistic character Shepard can recruit, and therefore, people find her boring.

She also doesn't bend over backwards to ingratiate herself, unlike some other (more popular) characters.

I'd actually put Vega, Jacob, and Zaeed as more realistic, Vega being the most.

Yea, Jacob... and the tunnel with the valves in the Collector base: The black guy volunteering for a suicide mission. That truly is original!

[EpicBoot2daFace]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

Would you trust someone who worked for a terrorist organization IRL? I wouldn't.

I'd at least give them a chance to explain. 

If Ashley had down that she'd have realized she was completely wrong about everything. 

She did give you the chance to explain on Mars.

[The Night Mammoth]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Hey Shepard I knew we were together but I can't trust you (repeat 10 times).

Would you trust someone who worked for a terrorist organization IRL? I wouldn't.

I'd at least give them a chance to explain. 

If Ashley had down that she'd have realized she was completely wrong about everything. 

She did give you the chance to explain on Mars.

About eight months late, but yeah, she does. 

And isn't satisfied, so I've come to believe she has an allergy to logic. 

[MrStoob]

Silvair wrote...

"I can't tell the aliens from the animals!"

That is racist.

It's an observation, which is not inherintly 'racist'.

[1337b0r0m1r]

I don't know if she is racist, but if she was, why do people hate her as character that much for that reason?

From a storytelling point of view, being able to tell something about racism is one of the major reasons to choose a setting with aliens in the first place. Publishing a game where the player has, for instance, the choice to commit genocide of any ethnicity, you just can't do that.

[Nightwriter]

Didn't you know? Ashley killed a puppy because it was an atheist who trusted Shepard.

Also the puppy was in a relationship with a baby varren and that is ALIEN LOVE and she cannot let our animal youth carry on with that kind of behavior. Also also the puppy was quoted as saying "I am stylistically opposed to the inclusion of boob windows in military attire."

So she KILLED IT. I read it in Ashley Hater's Enquirer so it must be true.

Another tidbit I learned there: genophage? Totally released by Ashley. Time machine. BOOM.

[DirtySHISN0]

For none of the reasons stated above, I plain loathe Ashley.



Perhaps its because i have no real say in whether her or Kaidan stay. I mean if you dislike them both, like i do, then there is no real distinction or meaning for any of the choices made surrounding them. Still going to be stuck with one of them for at least 2.5 games.

[Chiantirose1982]

Kaidan and Ashley are both hated

First it was "Kaidan is boring" and "Ashley is racist", then Horizon happened .... "Why would an Alliance soldier not immediatly trust my Shepard that is working for the enemy that we fought in ME1?" Which was in my opinion really the fault of bad writing, they should have let Shepard explain why he/she  works for Cerberus and then have Ashley/Kaidan say they can't join because they don't trust Cerberus or whatever else.

Yeah ... pretty much sums it up.

And then in ME3? Okay i thought the whole trust issue was a bit overplayed, but didnt bother me to much. After Mars, the whole thing is done anyway, because they're gone untill after the Citadel coup. After that they tell you, they'll never doubt you again, at least Kaidan did, I don't know about Ashley.