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Looking back, do you still feel as upset about the ending, or did you come to terms with it?


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Ryoten

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The mass effect 3 ending is what it is. Not that good. I've come to terms with it.

I have a new problem now. Bioware.

I'm untrusting of the company, and see them more as someone trying to make a quick sell than a good product.

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I'm still very upset. I haven't played Mass Effect since October, not out of spite, but because I've become disinterested. The ending to ME3 did that.

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I've been playing on and off since. I haven't been able to bring myself to play either ME or ME2 yet. I keep starting, and then stopping not far into it.

As for ME3, I still get a bad taste in my mouth when I get to the end. Though, admittedly, the Control ending works well with my Paragon Shep.

As for my other character; I'm not going to find an ending that fits with her, until one is modded in. She'll forever be stuck in Mass Effect purgatory, right before the end.


So to answer the question: I'm still not very happy with the ending. It works with some characters, but as evidenced by much of the forums reactions, it doesn't work for everyone. So, I'm looking to the modding community now. Hopefully they'll come up with a really good ending.

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On one hand they gave me a ending with the EC(refuse) on the other I feel cheated out of 60$(well technically 40$ because of resale) because it was still horrible and i'd still been better off not playing it. The thing that bothers me the most is they prolly won't discredit the ending til ME4 is close to coming out to try to sell more copies of it...

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If EC never existed? No, it would be pretty bad, but as it is now post EC, I've definitly gotten over it, and accepted it...now if Bioware can strengthen elements of the ending leading up to it. I think the ending could be better still.

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love the ending since ec but before that it was the biggest **** I have ever seen

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movieguyabw wrote...

I've been playing on and off since. I haven't been able to bring myself to play either ME or ME2 yet. I keep starting, and then stopping not far into it.

As for ME3, I still get a bad taste in my mouth when I get to the end. Though, admittedly, the Control ending works well with my Paragon Shep.

As for my other character; I'm not going to find an ending that fits with her, until one is modded in. She'll forever be stuck in Mass Effect purgatory, right before the end.


So to answer the question: I'm still not very happy with the ending. It works with some characters, but as evidenced by much of the forums reactions, it doesn't work for everyone. So, I'm looking to the modding community now. Hopefully they'll come up with a really good ending.

This might interest you. Many people like it. I think it only works on PC.

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ManOfSteel

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Never had that much of an issue with it, and with the EC, I think it's fine.

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I don't think I am very 'okay with it' at all to be honest. I've not played any Mass Effect at all since playing ME3. I've tried I just can't get in to it any more after the ending. It's hard to put much enthusiasm in to Shepard any more knowing how crappy it's going to end. My other half hasn't even looked at anything Mass Effect himself since playing ME3. He played it once tossed the game aside pretty much and said he was done.

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What's more depressing is that this is how the trilogy ends. One of the greatest, story driven experiences ever created, goes out with a whimper instead of a bang. And Bioware obviously are done with trying to make things right. The EC made the ending suck less, but the ending still sucks. It was suppose to be their saving throw, and they failed it. They rolled a 2.

The only thing left now is to hope Bioware learned from their giant mistake, and that any other devs that witnessed this whole thing, learned from it as well.

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Still feel upset about the ending, and about how Bioware handled our feedback.

And feel sad about how ME trilogy has to end like this. It could have been a perfect classic.

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I can't bring myself to play ME3 again...so yes, i am still upset
With EC? Even more, Why? Because EC is BW saying "Fine, fine, since YOU have a problem (since it's your faul) with us we, Gods, make something to make you happy, now buy Omega"

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My overall frustration with the game isn't as intense as it once was. I can actually play it and enjoy it for what it is now. But there will always be disappointment towards it, and even the series as a whole. The thing is, it's not the ending, exactly. After the EC and Leviathan DLC, the ending is...fine. Not what I wanted, but fine. It's actually things like the auto-dialogue, and how so much of the dialogue just simply pushes through the plot rather than seeming like an actual conversation. More then a few characters are trivialized in this manner. It's how other than the genophage data, the choices in the previous games really didn't matter much to the story, and instead were reduced to EMS crap that at this point don't even affect the game in the small way they initially did. It's in Morinth just being a run of the mill Banshee in Priority: Earth (this says so much, even though it's a small detail). It's in Priority: Earth. More than a few more things that just don't seem like oversights, they seem intentional, and to someone who has played the series since the beginning that's.........confusing as hell.

I like the game, and ranting about the contrary because it also happens to disappoint the hell out of me isn't going to change that it is fun to play. And I guess that's where I'm at now.

I wish it wasn't treated as such a cash cow though, Having to pay an extra 50 bucks on DLC in order to get a more satisfying experience is not very becoming, and between that and outright lying about their products - BioWare has a long way to go before I particularly trust what they do as being anything more than a pretty fun, polished adventure game that wants all my hard earned money. As in, it will be a long time until I pay full price for, at the very least, anything Mass Effect related. I feel like as a consumer, I must do something.

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Haven't touched ANY of the trilogy since March. Thinking about booting ME3 still makes me physically sick to the stomach. ME1 and ME2 are now 'what's the point'? If I'm going to have to headcanon the third installment anyway, why not just headcanon the whole playthrough?

I found a better ending, and it wasn't written by Bioware. *gestures towards sig* The EC has pretty pictures (Yay!), and nothing else. The problems with the ending are still intact, and in a few cases even grew worse. We are still forced to agree with a monster. We are still forced to be the galaxy's executioner. The fact that Bioware can't seem to figure out why people would despise a hateful, genocidal monster bothers me on many levels.

I've ranted enough about the game's other failings; it's obvious Bioware doesn't care. So be it. Let them fall with EA.

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The ending is still as bad as it was before. However, I don't care about the ending itself that much anymore, there're alternatives for the bs ending made by the community like Marauder Shields or MEHEM which work quite well for me. What I care about is Bioware's pathetic behaviour since this started. It's roughly a year and they still don't give a **** about what the fans say, behaving like little kids whenever someone is criticizing them. Grow up already...

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El_Draque

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 Well lets see, EC changed NOTHING, and i sure as heck am not paying them my money for two dlcs that shouldve been in the game already. Nope. Like a relationship that turns horrid. Ill rememebr the first 2 games with joy, and then quickly change my train of thought so that i dont have to remember the horrors that bioware wrought. Mass effect sunk down so low on my list of favorite series that i dont even think about it anymore. It has since been replaced with Halo, battlestar galactica, and star wars.

Shame on you bioware

Modifié par El_Draque, 13 février 2013 - 05:01 .


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Bob Garbage

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To be fair, you do post in the Mass Effect forums. For ME3, no less. You're either a little interested or kind of insane.

Modifié par Bob Garbage, 13 février 2013 - 05:24 .


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So ME3 goes towards what ME1 should have been, but it shouldn't have? Ironic, but I see the point.

I'm probably not sensitive to the consistency issue because I do have a preference. Obviously not a big issue for me, or I wouldn't like Bio games in the first place.


Yeah, a lot of what I feel about ME3 is a contradiction in some way. A lot of this revolves around to what extent you see Mass Effect 3 as a story in its own right, and to what extent you see it as part 3 of a trilogy.

Imagining the story of the ME games as one, combined whole leads you, I think, to see a wildly inconsistent story tone-wise. By here I don't merely mean happy/sad easy/tough but also adventurous (ME1) vs. gritty (ME2). Each game in its own way is different enough from its predecessor that I think you have to analyze them as separate works striving towards different goals if you want something resembling coherence.

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I have played through ME1 and ME2 I don't know how many times. ME3? I have multiple play throughs, but it isn't the same. Limited choices, auto-dialog, and an ending that sweeps all of my choices away and boils down to a, b, or c just doesn't get me motivated to really dig in and play. In a sense, the Reapers just lay down and die for you as soon as you reach the Catalyst. Going out with a whimper was not what I expected and Shepard's "oh, o.k. we'll do whatever you say" attitude is mind boggling.

It is better than the OE, but while I was not expecting Shepard to survive the ending, I did expect his death to have some meaning. Instead I just committed suicide because I was forced into a corner and ordered to do it. Left a bad taste in my mouth.

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ahleung wrote...
Still feel upset about the ending, and about how Bioware handled our feedback.

Actually, I feel almost indecently content about Bioware's reaction to my feedback. The EC realized not only 90% of what I said would be necessary elements to make the ending good, but also created a Synthesis scenario that incorporated 80% of what I had envisioned in advance.

I like that kind of reaction much better than mere words.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

ahleung wrote...
Still feel upset about the ending, and about how Bioware handled our feedback.

Actually, I feel almost indecently content about Bioware's reaction to my feedback. The EC realized not only 90% of what I said would be necessary elements to make the ending good, but also created a Synthesis scenario that incorporated 80% of what I had envisioned in advance.

I like that kind of reaction much better than mere words.


I'm happy for you! (No, really! Not being sarcastic.) Do you have any tips on how to pursuade Bioware to look at the feedback from the rest of us? For the record, I would be delighted to leave you your Green ending. I'd just like an ending that reflected MY playthrough. And Bioware seems determined not to do that. *sadface*

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All I can say is I don't play it. Played it 2 1/2 times and haven't gone back. Maybe someday I will, maybe not.

I played ME1 and ME2 until ME 3 came out and I had planned on playing ME3 until DA3 came out but that's not happening.

edit.  the EC made it possible not to hate it, but didn't really make me want to re play it over and over.  I'm glad there are others who do not have this problem and I do think someday I'll re play it but it will be when i don't have anything else.

Modifié par mopotter, 13 février 2013 - 06:58 .


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Reth Shepherd wrote...

...I'd just like an ending that reflected MY playthrough...

Has anyone else considered this statement may be the reason the original endings were in part so vague? Every individual player has their own Shepards, their own views on the game, what themes are important, and what they personally wanted to see in the ending. To have created an ending that catered to every player on an individual level was a technical impossibility, both in terms of technical limitation and available development resources.

Just sayin'.

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I never really was "upset" with the endings.  Just disappointed.  And am to this day.  It's a hard thing when a favourite series (be it book, tv series, or movie or video game trilogy) ends on a note you find unsatisfying.  I'm also disappointed this is the last we'll really see of these characters.  I absolutely love many of the characters ME1 through ME3 introduced us to and would have loved to see plenty more content involving them.  It leaves me wanting.

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humes spork wrote...

Reth Shepherd wrote...

...I'd just like an ending that reflected MY playthrough...

Has anyone else considered this statement may be the reason the original endings were in part so vague? Every individual player has their own Shepards, their own views on the game, what themes are important, and what they personally wanted to see in the ending. To have created an ending that catered to every player on an individual level was a technical impossibility, both in terms of technical limitation and available development resources.

Just sayin'.


So they made people's endings unique by not putting ANYTHING into them? It's not that hard. Someone in another thread suggested making it an option whether Shepard dies at the end or not, as triggered by a dialogue prompt earlier on. (For example: when talking to your crew right before the beam push, there are already chat options that range from 'see you on the other side' to 'if I don't make it, see you at the bar'. How hard would it be to link up a death/no death state to that?) More to the point: why was there no option to reject the Starbrat? His dialogue, his choices, go against nearly everything most (Paragon in particular, but not limited to) playthroughs stand for. Diversity. Choice. Self-determination. The ONLY Choice that reflects that is Refuse, and it winds up being a Game Over message. Why were these not reflected in a choice? Not even one?

Let me add to this. The Marauder Shields comic doesn't reflect quite everything I did or chose in my playthrough. It is, however, true to everything I fought FOR. THAT is what I want.

Modifié par Reth Shepherd, 13 février 2013 - 07:22 .