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[wright1978]

I have no issue with sexy characters and them seeking unique looks for characters. As a fan of Miranda's character, i certainly found the ass shots stupid and needless.

[darkway1]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Maybe people want more of Aveline from DA2....she's a warrior so she has a masculine body,full body practical armour,plain practical hair,plain personality......an all round good natured,normal character.???.........wonder how many dated Aveline?

Aveline is awesome and I was sad she wasn't a romance option so shut your face.

I know she wasn't a romance option......that's kinda the point.

[crimzontearz]

darkway1 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Maybe people want more of Aveline from DA2....she's a warrior so she has a masculine body,full body practical armour,plain practical hair,plain personality......an all round good natured,normal character.???.........wonder how many dated Aveline?

Aveline is awesome and I was sad she wasn't a romance option so shut your face.

I know she wasn't a romance option......that's kinda the point.

tali and garrus were never meant to be LI's Bioware thought we would never like them that way...

[darkway1]

crimzontearz wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Maybe people want more of Aveline from DA2....she's a warrior so she has a masculine body,full body practical armour,plain practical hair,plain personality......an all round good natured,normal character.???.........wonder how many dated Aveline?

Aveline is awesome and I was sad she wasn't a romance option so shut your face.

I know she wasn't a romance option......that's kinda the point.

tali and garrus were never meant to be LI's Bioware thought we would never like them that way...

Serious though people,I really,really,really don't want to argue......I just find it a bit silly debating over a sexy looking robot when just about everything in Mass Effect looks sexy.....it's just a very sleek,well designed universe.

[1337b0r0m1r]

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

[quote]darkway1 wrote...

tali and garrus were never meant to be LI's Bioware thought we would never like them that way...
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Good thing Bioware got a bit bolder after ME1 then.

[Obadiah]

Is the EVA platform really that much more volumptuous than the standard femshep or female Alliance officer model? I think EDI just decided to go with the skin tight looks for some reason. Maybe it is like some teenage girl that suddenly discovers boys pay attention to it more like this?

[Alex_Dur4and]

IMO, it all comes down to how those sexy characters have been designed, the way they are outfitted. There is sexy and there is naked like. Here are a few comparisons that are based on my opinion to show the difference;

Ashley = Sexy alliance uniform with combat boots.
Miranda = Naked like latex Cerberus outfit with high heels...
Shiala = Sexy Asari commando leathers with combat boots.
Samara = Naked like with "killer-cleavaged" red latex suit with high heels...
As for EDI... The body was design for infiltration, deception and appeal. I think it's normal for it to have killer curves. However, she looks naked and she's got high heels...

When characters look naked, it's hard to take them seriously. Another thing... Has anyone ever tried to do combat with high heels?? Girls have enough of a hard time standing on those and they cause great discomfort to most of them... A little ridiculous if you ask me...

[darkway1]

[quote]1337b0r0m1r wrote...

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

[quote]darkway1 wrote...

tali and garrus were never meant to be LI's Bioware thought we would never like them that way...
[/quote]

Good thing Bioware got a bit bolder after ME1 then.

[/quote]


Garrus and Tali are again fantastic characters.........I enjoy what Bioware does with their characters quite a lot,Tali is a very lovable character and yet you don't actually see what she looks like......I think that's quite an achievement in character design.
Isabella from DA2 has the opposite affect,she beautiful to look at and in your face but personality wise she's not a very likeable character.....she totally mercenary.

Modifié par darkway1, 12 février 2013 - 08:54 .

[Alex_Dur4and]

kylecouch wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

The main problem is Bioware thinking that sexy-time is more important than common sense. In what skewed and twisted little world is this ...



considered better looking than this ...



This isn't Jersey Shore. Or, at least I thought it wasn't.

oh god........I miss the real Ashley so much Q_Q.....

I don't mind the new look, if she is wearing civilian clothing. However, in a military uniform, her hair style is not appropriate. She doesn't represent the Alliance military with her hair loose passed shoulder length. It needs to be like in ME1

Modifié par Alex_Dur4and, 12 février 2013 - 09:07 .

[Reorte]

1337b0r0m1r wrote...

Or maybe he/she (probably he) just forgot how Skyrim looks like without mods.

Most of the character mods I've seen for Skyrim (admittedly I've not really looked) seem to aim to turn the female characters into Barbie dolls - i.e. they were designed by people with the same issue as the ME3 character designers. Mind you Skyrim has really messed with my head, I find myself attracted to Dunmer women and that's just weird.

[CynicalShep]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

IMO, it all comes down to how those sexy characters have been designed, the way they are outfitted. There is sexy and there is naked like. Here are a few comparisons that are based on my opinion to show the difference;

Ashley = Sexy alliance uniform with combat boots.
Miranda = Naked like latex Cerberus outfit with high heels...
Shiala = Sexy Asari commando leathers with combat boots.
Samara = Naked like with "killer-cleavaged" red latex suit with high heels...
As for EDI... The body was design for infiltration, deception and appeal. I think it's normal for it to have killer curves. However, she looks naked and she's got high heels...

When characters look naked, it's hard to take them seriously. Another thing... Has anyone ever tried to do combat with high heels?? Girls have enough of a hard time standing on those and they cause great discomfort to most of them... A little ridiculous if you ask me...

I've seen girls running on high heels faster than many other who wear sneakers. But then again, I come from a country where 90% of the girls know how to walk on heels by the age of 18. 

That being said - I'd prefer Miranda to wear her black DLC armor in combat and her catsuit when idle.

[hau101]

How about the thought that maybe, just maybe, a few sexy characters were added in just for the sake of having some sexy in the game, not necessarily to attract males into buying the game? And those who do actually buy stuff just for the sex appeal, they have problems of their own.

Mass Effect doesn't even have much sexualized objects, just sleek designs and costumes. And that includes men. Don't see the need to throw a tantrum over a few good-looking models.

[crimzontearz]

CynicalShep wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

IMO, it all comes down to how those sexy characters have been designed, the way they are outfitted. There is sexy and there is naked like. Here are a few comparisons that are based on my opinion to show the difference;

Ashley = Sexy alliance uniform with combat boots.
Miranda = Naked like latex Cerberus outfit with high heels...
Shiala = Sexy Asari commando leathers with combat boots.
Samara = Naked like with "killer-cleavaged" red latex suit with high heels...
As for EDI... The body was design for infiltration, deception and appeal. I think it's normal for it to have killer curves. However, she looks naked and she's got high heels...

When characters look naked, it's hard to take them seriously. Another thing... Has anyone ever tried to do combat with high heels?? Girls have enough of a hard time standing on those and they cause great discomfort to most of them... A little ridiculous if you ask me...

I've seen girls running on high heels faster than many other who wear sneakers. But then again, I come from a country where 90% of the girls know how to walk on heels by the age of 18. 

That being said - I'd prefer Miranda to wear her black DLC armor in combat and her catsuit when idle.

Brazil?
and tone down tne hyperboles

[Leem_0001]

Artisitic vision!

[Gedgehog]

This is such an interesting topic, it really is.

The basic answer to the question though, is that sexiness can be very subjective.
One person may find the incredibly large bust and catsuit look sexy, someone else may not, but sexiness is not just skin deep, it also has a lot to do with the person behind the figure.

Let's take real-life practicality into account for a minute. Not everyone wanders around in revealing catsuits or bikinis, unless it is a certain type of setting - such as on a beach. Most of the time people tend to wear what suits the occasion - wearing one of the above in an office or while shopping in your local branch of Tesco is not particularly practical! The same can apply to combat situations in Mass Effect as well.

Also the issue of what people find sexy comes into play here too. As I mentioned above, sexiness is not just skin deep, at least not for me, but for some, looks are inherantly more important - and that's fine! I'm not going to bash those people at all, as everyone finds different things attractive.

For me at least, I need to get to know someone on a personal basis before I see a proper attraction in them. Sex appeal comes from their personality, the way they move, the things they like to do, the books they read, their sense of humour, etc, etc - there has to be a certain rapport between me and the other person long before I feel inclined to kiss them, etc. I've never been able to kiss anyone at parties / while clubbing, and the idea of one night stands has never appealed to me either, as a result of my personal programming (is that even the right way to describe that?)
Neither of these are inherantly wrong ways at looking at sexiness, they just reflect different peoples oppinions on what sexiness means to them.

Modifié par Gedgehog, 12 février 2013 - 09:26 .

[CynicalShep]

crimzontearz wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

IMO, it all comes down to how those sexy characters have been designed, the way they are outfitted. There is sexy and there is naked like. Here are a few comparisons that are based on my opinion to show the difference;

Ashley = Sexy alliance uniform with combat boots.
Miranda = Naked like latex Cerberus outfit with high heels...
Shiala = Sexy Asari commando leathers with combat boots.
Samara = Naked like with "killer-cleavaged" red latex suit with high heels...
As for EDI... The body was design for infiltration, deception and appeal. I think it's normal for it to have killer curves. However, she looks naked and she's got high heels...

When characters look naked, it's hard to take them seriously. Another thing... Has anyone ever tried to do combat with high heels?? Girls have enough of a hard time standing on those and they cause great discomfort to most of them... A little ridiculous if you ask me...

I've seen girls running on high heels faster than many other who wear sneakers. But then again, I come from a country where 90% of the girls know how to walk on heels by the age of 18.

That being said - I'd prefer Miranda to wear her black DLC armor in combat and her catsuit when idle.

Brazil?
and tone down tne hyperboles

Nah, not Brazil. Tbh, if Brazilian women I've "met" are any indication your guess was pretty good.
I wasn't exaggerating, believe me.

[Denora]

For me, IMO, It doesn't seem realistic or perhaps I'm looking more for the word believable. I can deal with EDI(A robotic body for infiltration) and Samara(Because a biotic and comes from a different culture the humans, so who am I to judge).

I don't want sexy beautiful characters in games. I want real average looking chatacters. Make the characters look just a bit different from the rest (in body shape) to give a bit of a unique feel.

Heck I wouldn't have a problem with Miranda or Ashley as they look while in casual attire, but as for a battle, that's where I have some issues. Even with some strong biotics and a decent shield I find it personally hard to believe Miranda wouldn't where armor(of some kind) into battle, especially the kind Shepard stumbles into.

It doesn't seem to fit Ashley's character in battle to dress that way, a family career soldier with her hair down and have all that makeup. I would rather Me1 and Me2 Ashley over the new Me3 Ashley any day.
Also, that hospital model of Ashley, I'll just say I really didn't like that model they used for her. It was too much.

I know several woman police officers and two woman in the military, none of which keep their hair down while on the clock, as it can be dangerous for various reasons (mostly just "in the way").

Again all just my opinion and thoughts.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

The main problem is Bioware thinking that sexy-time is more important than common sense. In what skewed and twisted little world is this ...



considered better looking than this ...



This isn't Jersey Shore. Or, at least I thought it wasn't.

oh god........I miss the real Ashley so much Q_Q.....

I don't mind the new look, if she is wearing civilian clothing. However, in a military uniform, her hair style is not appropriate. She doesn't represent the Alliance military with her hair loose passed shoulder length. It needs to be like in ME1

Old Ashley has a freakishly long neck, I can't stop looking at it.

[Bob Garbage]

Looking sexy and looking like a porn star are different things.

I don't have a huge issue with it, as it's everywhere in our society and media and isn't something that is going away. But Bioware designed these character models (ME3 Ashley, EDI, Miranda) for sexual retards, it is so blatant it's actually a little sad.

Modifié par Bob Garbage, 13 février 2013 - 12:32 .

[iorveth1271]

ArtuThepig wrote...

 I've seen a lot of threads complaining about the EDIs body,or Ashley "Mirandification".Sincerly i don't understand why you should hate them,having a sexy character is always a good think,because characters became more attractive.What do you think?

My problem with "sexy" characters is because, quite frankly, I don't need sexy in video games and I'm getting the feeling it's becoming more and more of a phenomenon in video games - to make female characters especially "sexy" and attractive. Especially in a game like Mass Effect however, or in any game with female (para)military characters - like Miranda - the first priority should be logic and practicality. There is no practical use to a tight uniform in a gunfight, you just die faster.

I never was a fan of the new body EDI got either, because as a faceless entity, her character had a certain "touch" to it that made her, in my opinion, quite unique and likeable. With that new body, that in my opinion reminded more of a sexbot than anything else, combined with the fact she had a romance with my favourite ME character Joker, I simply think it was way overdone in ME3. She could've had any body, or at least - like Eva - had a more "human" look. Making her look like a naked sexbot just rubbed me the wrong way.

As with Ashley and Miranda, I personally did not mind Ashley's look in ME1 and 3. She wasn't attractive to me in either game and I never liked the character either so I barely ever played with her - the change itself, IMO, was however unnecessary. As for Miranda, she was too far. I usually refer to her as Ms. Cameltoe, simply because her cameltoe was painfully hard to miss. In addition, her outfit was way too tight and unpractical in front-line combat. It made zero sense to me, from a practical perspective, for her to run around in a skintight sexy Cerberus uniform. Combine those things with the amount of ass-shots in ME2 and 3 of her, and I can't help but get the feeling Bioware made her an eyecatcher for the especially single-.minded male audience rather than a deep and interesting character. In Jack's case, I could at least understand why she didn't wear a lot as that was just Jack rebellious style and it felt perfectly in character, considering the amount of destruction she was capable of by simply using her biotics to fight. On the other hand, I barely ever took her with me so she was in no immediate danger to get one-shotted in the middle of combat for her lack of body armour either.

Modifié par iorveth1271, 13 février 2013 - 01:01 .

[1337b0r0m1r]

iorveth1271 wrote...

My problem with "sexy" characters is because, quite frankly, I don't need sexy in video games and I'm getting the feeling it's becoming more and more of a phenomenon in video games - to make female characters especially "sexy" and attractive.

I would probably disagree here. I think it's getting better, not worse. 

Anyway, for someone not wanting "sexy" in games you sure did pick a strange username.

[Ice Cold J]

My problem with EDI is that I think she was just made to be a sexual object rather than adding a squadmate.
This is just my opinion, of course.
I have no problem with Ash's new look or Liara's new character model. I prefer attractive females. As a straight guy, I think that's natural. I don't thumb my nose at characters if they're not good-looking, but I prefer to look at things I find attractive. Anyone who claims otherwise is pretty much lying to themselves and others.

[BleedingUranium]

Ice Cold J wrote...

I have no problem with Ash's new look or Liara's new character model. I prefer attractive females. As a straight guy, I think that's natural. I don't thumb my nose at characters if they're not good-looking, but I prefer to look at things I find attractive. Anyone who claims otherwise is pretty much lying to themselves and others.

I fully agree.

[crimzontearz]

CynicalShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

IMO, it all comes down to how those sexy characters have been designed, the way they are outfitted. There is sexy and there is naked like. Here are a few comparisons that are based on my opinion to show the difference;

Ashley = Sexy alliance uniform with combat boots.
Miranda = Naked like latex Cerberus outfit with high heels...
Shiala = Sexy Asari commando leathers with combat boots.
Samara = Naked like with "killer-cleavaged" red latex suit with high heels...
As for EDI... The body was design for infiltration, deception and appeal. I think it's normal for it to have killer curves. However, she looks naked and she's got high heels...

When characters look naked, it's hard to take them seriously. Another thing... Has anyone ever tried to do combat with high heels?? Girls have enough of a hard time standing on those and they cause great discomfort to most of them... A little ridiculous if you ask me...

I've seen girls running on high heels faster than many other who wear sneakers. But then again, I come from a country where 90% of the girls know how to walk on heels by the age of 18.

That being said - I'd prefer Miranda to wear her black DLC armor in combat and her catsuit when idle.

Brazil?
and tone down tne hyperboles

Nah, not Brazil. Tbh, if Brazilian women I've "met" are any indication your guess was pretty good.
I wasn't exaggerating, believe me.

if you weren't then Olympic 100 meter dashers would run in high heels and nor snickers. They do not...brcause no matter how fast you can run in heels you will run faster in proper footwear.....thus wearing 6 inch heels in combat makes no sense for anyone


 
Same with the fetishwear armor