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[Ash J. Williams]

I love'em personally, never have to worry about a sync kill or banshee stalking me. I find the bombers quite easy to tkae care of while the Primes you just gotta be patient with. Whenever I'm playing other factions I always have to be more alert and whenever I do die it tends to be agaisnt Reapers or Collectors.

[MajorStupidity]

Because geth are completely reliant on stunlock to be able to beat the players. I go and play geth on glacier with a batarian soldier and they are a complete joke because of stagger resistance. However, with a class without stagger resistance they are just completely annoying to play against.

[C0MB0]

I was fine with the Geth and the infinite stunlock and triple tap rockets until the Bomber was introduced. That thing ruined Geth.

[Chealec]

Stunlock aside, they also "cheat" more than any other faction... pick an Infiltrator, any infiltrator, set the game to gold Reapers and solo a few rounds.

Now do the same thing gold Geth solo... and you'll see just how much more visible you are, when cloaked, vs Geth than any other faction - as far as I can tell cloak has very little effect at hiding you from Geth Trooper Rockets or Geth Prime Plasma shots they track you anyway and the Turret and Combat Drone, I'm pretty sure, can see through cloak... and tell everything else where you are. Drones will take a guess at where you are and bomb you, or if you're too close just insta-zap you.

[Creator Limbs]

Aerosmithe wrote...

Honest question, not tryint to troll or start a flamewar. And of course realizing that everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them...

I actually like playing Geth. Of course, I also like playing as an engineer character, which have powers that do better against Geth. Yes, Primes are no fun, and bombers troll pretty hard (especially if they're one of the targets on the 4 target waves, they keep running away and kill a solo attempt on wave 10 because the timer ran out), but every faction has at least 1-2 units that cause teeth gnashing and mumbled/shouted profanity.

So is this really a preference issue? Am I missing something by not having tried them at higher difficulties (mostly Bronze and Silver, because I'm not that great)?

Because Geth are super hard to fight guys.

[Riot Inducer]

There's two main reasons a lot of people (myself included) hate fighting Geth. As has been mentioned numerous times geth can easily stunlock you into a painful death and secondly their units break more often than other factions and usually in ways that adversly affect the player.

But lets go ahead and itemize it.
From a technical standpoint there are two types of "stun" attacks, the first which I just call "stun" is the state in which you have movement control of your character but no control over powers, weapons, dodging or sprinting. The second kind is "stagger" this removes full control of your character, staggers also typically ignore stun resistance.

Geth Trooper: Melee attack staggers (not that big of a deal as most trooper melee's do this)

Geth Rocket Trooper: Standard attack stuns and tracks, melee attack staggers. Fire rate often bugs and allows them to fire 2-3 shots rapidly, can also fire while immobilized and often fires at angles that should be impossible with their current facing (i.e. firing out of their back)

Geth Hunter: Standard attack stuns, melee attack staggers, can also fire while immobilized and often fires at angles that should be impossible with their current facing (i.e. firing out of their back). Additionally their cloaking often allows projectiles or attacks to pass through the hunter with no damage taken.

Geth Pyro: Flamethrower damage applies at ranges far longer than the graphic indicates, makes judging a safe distance away from them difficult.

Geth Bomber: Grenade attack staggers, melee shock attack stuns. Often times instant cast powers (such as overload) will have no effect on them.

Geth Prime: Standard attack stuns and tracks, melee attack staggers, drone attack staggers. They can place turrets outside of their line of sight, their melee range is also much larger than the animation suggests and can often stagger melee attackers even after they dodge backwards away from the prime.

Modifié par Riot Inducer, 11 février 2013 - 07:18 .

[Little Queen]

Aerosmithe wrote...

So is this really a preference issue? Am I missing something by not having tried them at higher difficulties (mostly Bronze and Silver, because I'm not that great)?

 

You know i was wondering the same, then me and my friends started a gold match against Geth <_< (it was the first time we played in gold) 

[DoubleHell]

Enemy Geth play dirty.

A squad of 4 TGI's with chain overload works nicely against them

[ichyscrachy]

Favorite geth trick is the cloaked hunter shooting me from a distance, so I respond with ED, stripping shields and staggering. Then get shot again by the staggered hunter, losing the shields I got from ED. Shoot the thing while closing in to melee to strip the rest of the shields, hit it with snap freeze and watch it fall down frozen solid. Then go down when the frozen, prone hunter shoots me again. Good times.

[xija]

When you get stunned several times it is taking control out of the player's hand, which becomes frustrating when there is no way around it once the stunning starts.

[khankar]

because they are not hard; just cheap. and BW does not seem interested in fixing them because it's a "balance" issue. go figure.

[MichaelFinnegan]

Aerosmithe wrote...

Honest question, not tryint to troll or start a flamewar. And of course realizing that everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them...

I actually like playing Geth.

On Gold, which I now exclusively play, a lot of people pre-select Geth because they're the slowest moving enemy faction. At least that is what I think the reason is. Little do they seem to realize what is in store for them...

Of course, I also like playing as an engineer character, which have powers that do better against Geth. Yes, Primes are no fun, and bombers troll pretty hard (especially if they're one of the targets on the 4 target waves, they keep running away and kill a solo attempt on wave 10 because the timer ran out), but every faction has at least 1-2 units that cause teeth gnashing and mumbled/shouted profanity.

Ah, yes, the profanity. It's as inevitable as the Geth stunlock.

I think that there is no faction where so many things can simultaneously fire and stunlock you than the Geth. Geth Rocket Troopers keep firing their rockets at whatever angle pleases them - there's no end to those rockets, I tell you; the bomber can stun you in close range and bomb you out of cover; the Geth Hunter seems to have some random kind of stagger immunity and it has a tendency to magically appear out of nowhere, in packs, too; the silent Pyro and its limitless flame of instant death; and the last but not the least, the Geth Prime and all its pets, the Prime cannon can literally bend around corners and stun you, so can the Drone's incendiary attack, and the Prime usually spawns its Turret at impossible locations.

And I think the ones I've noted above are not the only reasons. The spawn system is more or less broken, in my opinion; I've literally seen Geth Hunters appear out of nowhere at the start of the wave and stunlock and kill my teammates. The Rocket Troopers and Primes have a tendency to instantly fire several rounds, as soon as they spawn. I believe all the Geth plot the player's trajectory of movement, and magically fire seeking-rounds from around corners, from below the ramps or stairways, etc. - they do not respect line of sight. So, you turn a corner, or go down/up a ladder and the missile is already there, hitting your face, which is followed close behind by several more.

Actually, it's the stunlock that kills; you get stunlocked and lose all control of your character, and there are so many things firing simultaneously that death is inevitable.

So is this really a preference issue? Am I missing something by not having tried them at higher difficulties (mostly Bronze and Silver, because I'm not that great)?

You should try them on Gold - you don't know what you're missing out on.

All that said, the Geth are still managable on Gold, if one is wary of the things I said above. For example, I don't try to rush a spawn because I know that I'm going to get several rounds into my face as soon as I turn a corner; in fact, as soon as I see a spawn, I duck into hard cover. I try to use hard cover as opposed to soft cover. Overall, I play a bit laid back against them. That is probably a good strategy. I still remember those days when I used to search for a preset enemy - now I go U/U/G exclusively.

I think overall BioWare needs to reduce the reaction time of the Geth units. They also need to make enemy units respect line of sight. And fix the spawn system, among other things.

EDIT: Fixed some typos.

Modifié par MichaelFinnegan, 11 février 2013 - 08:19 .

[Big Jack Shepard]

Zero132132 wrote...

Stun. Stun stun stun.

People like to play the game, not watch helplessly as their character flails about, entirely unable to respond.

[OuterRim]

glitching Hunters are the most annoying with their constant stun lock, oh and the relentless primes who can shoot through cover, oh and the stun lock pest drones, the stun lock pest Bombers, oh and the glitching 2 and three shot 180 degree firing rocket troopers, not to mention their stun locking elbows, oh and the stun locking elbows of the troopers too.

I'm surprised there is anyone who likes to play the geth.

[CyberByte727]

Geth rocket troopers. Why do they always target me?

[Psycho Pisces]

When I round a corner an take 5 rockets to the face, I get annoyed... When I medi-gel and get stunned into oblivion then insta-stomped I start to grumble... When I am across the map, behind a box, and reloading to suddenly be sniped by Prime my blood pressure raises..

When two or three bombers carpet bomb me.. I start screaming "I AM KROGAN!" an try not to hurl my controller at the TV like I would a grenade or heavy melee...

[Rudy the Space Dog]

I like playing against geth. They're probably my favorite enemy. The difficulty surrounding them is what makes it fun for me.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

Play gold ....then quit

[Heldarion]

Feneckus wrote...

7 reasons :

1. Geth Primes
2. Geth Turrets
3. Geth Combat Drones
4. Rocket Troopers
5. Hunters
6. Bombers
7. Pyros

Good point, but let me expand that list:

8. Geth Primes
9. Geth Primes
10. Geth Primes

Modifié par Heldarion, 11 février 2013 - 08:51 .

[Boretsky]

I don't hate fighting them in general, but with certain characters and certain maps they are horrid. They can still shoot while being staggered (I've had frozen geth lying on the floor shoot me) and nearly every enemy can stun/stagger you. Last night I played a gold game against Geth, problem was, I was playing a Valkrie with a pirahna (ie: close range build), against stunlocky geth on hydra, the second most open map in the game. I ended up being forced to simple hold out in the orb room, which I hate camping.

[Zsykoh]

The_Fantasm wrote...

Wave 8 Gold

LOL This was my first thought too. A merciless, never ending wave of pyros and bombers.... with a few hunters thrown in for good measure.

[jrm_ayun]

Stun lock on top of stun lock on top of stagger on top of stun lock  = Prime, drone, turret slow sync kill.
It's also not fun getting shot alternatingly by two hunters <_<. 

[solidprice]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Aerosmithe wrote...

Am I missing something by not having tried them at higher difficulties (mostly Bronze and Silver, because I'm not that great)?

Stunlock is worse on higher difficulties, yes.

this.

Primes pets and bombers can be more deadly than any unit in the game. im damn serious.

[iOnlySignIn]

Rocket Troopers and Prime Drones/Turrets.

Never had a problem with Bombers. Their bombs go in a narrow straight line and are far easier to dodge than Scion bombs.

[hell wolf 95]

i liked the geth before the bomber was added and that could be why no one likes it and also delete the newest dlc and see how many people play with out it still.