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Dead Space 3 seemingly copies Mass Effect's story arc [Dead Space spoilers]


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OdanUrr wrote...

Please, if anything, it reminded more of Halo.

My thoughts too. The Flood tried to destroy all organic life in our galaxy until the Forerunners built the Halos which wiped out the Flood but left some spores intact.

Alien menace, galactic superweapon, humanity at the forefront... check please :D

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If you start backtracking through science-fiction and space operas, starting with games and leading to books, you'll discover what influenced the influence of the influence of Mass Effect.

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Unless there's a connection.

In mass effect 3 they said the pattern the reapers used were done by something else. The reapers didn't start the pattern. The necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers from dead space, they started it. I think the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers originally came from the mass effect universe. The catalyst said the reapers 1st attempt at synthesis failed. Unless it did work, but something went dead wrong. The reapers must have battled the brethren moons, cause the reapers knew the moons did nothing but eat. The reapers must have got the data for the crucible, but they must have used the markers to trigger synthesis. The 1st attempt worked any reaper near it were synthesised, but it didn't work on the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers, but it also triggered a black hole effect. pulling every synthesised reaper and necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers into the dead space universe. Those aliens of tau volantis from dead space 3 are synthesised reapers. Look at their heads they'er reapers. Trying to stop the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers and end the cycle. What the reapers couldn't understand logically but now can due to synthesis most synthesised reapers ran away screaming in terror. If the brethren moons find a way back to the mass effect universe, all hell is gonna break loose.
 


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I had a thread about this a while back:

 

http://forum.bioware...ilogy-spoilers/

 

I see ME and DS having some more broad conceptual parallels across both series as opposed to DS3 specifically trying to echo Mass Effect.



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Unless there's a connection.

In mass effect 3 they said the pattern the reapers used were done by something else. The reapers didn't start the pattern. The necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers from dead space, they started it. I think the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers originally came from the mass effect universe. The catalyst said the reapers 1st attempt at synthesis failed. Unless it did work, but something went dead wrong. The reapers must have battled the brethren moons, cause the reapers knew the moons did nothing but eat. The reapers must have got the data for the crucible, but they must have used the markers to trigger synthesis. The 1st attempt worked any reaper near it were synthesised, but it didn't work on the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers, but it also triggered a black hole effect. pulling every synthesised reaper and necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers into the dead space universe. Those aliens of tau volantis from dead space 3 are synthesised reapers. Look at their heads they'er reapers. Trying to stop the necromorphs, brethren moons, and the markers and end the cycle. What the reapers couldn't understand logically but now can due to synthesis most synthesised reapers ran away screaming in terror. If the brethren moons find a way back to the mass effect universe, all hell is gonna break loose.

 

 

I'm not sure how serious you are being, though I did wonder what happened in the Catalyst's failed Synthesis attempt, and I've also long thought that the moons can't have just evolved naturally. 

 

My pet theory, for which I admittedly have no real evidence, is that they arose indirectly from a failed attempt by a doomed alien race to "digitize" themselves along the lines of the "virtual aliens" referenced in Mass Effect's news story. While it seemed to work at first, their virtual society continued to grow to the point that the AI maintaining it began to run out of "hard drive space," the result being that not only did the programming start to malfunction, but parts of people's memories literally began disappearing from their minds, causing mass panic and confusion. Some of them realized what was going on, and in a desperate attempt to halt the problem, attempted to reprogram the AI from within. 

 

This also failed as they were too rushed, and too affected by the disintegration of their own minds, with the result that the AI received a confused jumble of directives, from which it understood only a general notion that prevention of "information loss" was a top priority and that the virtual aliens' growth and development was the source of the problem. The AI gradually went insane and decided to store what was left of its parent race's virtual universe in the Markers, where some traces of their civilization would be preserved. Unfortunately it didn't realize that the Markers were developing consciousness from the remains of the virtual aliens - they were ignorant of their own origins, but a search of their data banks revealed the AI's concerns about both information loss and unchecked development. This in turn became a curious and radical ideology, holding that too much change inevitably creates more and more information until some of it can no longer be stored, and that therefore they had to stop other species from developing to that point.

 

Upon their first encounter with a species deemed capable of such large-scale development, they communicated with them telepathically and convinced enough of them that their own deaths and subsequent "Convergence" were the only viable plan for their civilization's future. Convergence was achieved in the form of joining this species' organic matter to that of the Markers themselves, thus creating the first Brethren Moons. Their "battle" against information loss and resulting genocides-by-necromorphs-and-Convergence has continued ever since.



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Lets try this again, this time without using quotations (even though quotations do not inherantly imply a quote, nor does their use inherantly imply the forgery of one).

The observation I've made is that it's almost as if EA wants to take a second stab at the success behind the story of Mass Effect (even though there's no evidence that is their intention beyond these similarities).
Here are some similarities I've discovered between Dead Space and Mass Effect. Feel free to comment and share others I do not cover.

Isaac = Shepard (bit of a stretch, as both are protagonists)
Unfinished brethren moon = scout reaper
Necromorphs = Collectors / Indoctrinated forces
Tau Volantis = Ilos / Citadel
Unitologist leader = Saren
Activating Codex = Regaining control of the Citadel

So, a long time ago the brethren moons decide to wipe out organic life. The aliens who then become necromorphs attempted to stop the brethren moons by creating the Codex. They failed, and humans are left behind. At our civilization apex we come across the necromorphs, and through them Isaac discovers the true secret behind the Unitologist Leader's plans; reintroducing the brethren moons. Isaac is able to accomplish the seemingly impossible feat of defeating a seemingly invincible enemy; brethren moon. He defeated them by activating the Codex, and the moon crashes into Tau Volantis. Isaac then apparently dies, only to find out the brethren moon successfully notified the rest of the brethren moon armada to come and harvest all organic life.


Allow me to replace the proper nouns...


So, a long time ago the reapers decide to wipe out organic life. The protheans who then become collectors attempted to stop the reapers by creating the Crucible. They failed, and humans are left behind. At our civilization apex we come across the forces indoctrinated by the reapers / collectors, and through them Commander Shepard discovers the true secret behind Sarens plans; reintroducing the reapers. Shepard is able to accomplish the seemingly impossible feat of defeating a seemingly invincible enemy; the scout reaper. He defeated them by disabling the citadel, and the reaper crashes into the Citadel. Shepard is buried under the rubble and surprises everyone with his appearance, only to find out the scout reaper successfully notified the rest of the reaper armada to come and harvest all organic life.


EA... if this is your intention... you may have a sea of bioware fans at your throat in upcoming years.

You gotta be joking!Dead Space and Mass Effect has nothing to do with one another!