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[katerinafm]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Mary Kirby stated that Bianca is not dead and she will be represented in the game in some formed. I kinda want Varric to be united with Bianca, and it would be pretty awkward for Bianca if they are united in the book or the game when he's already in a relationship with the PC. Varric also did talk about how he only has eyes on dwarves, I believe, so it would limit the choice of the PC. It would interesting to romance a dwarf with a qunari to be sure, for science.

Bianca is alive?! I was sure she was dead from how the comic presented it o.o. That changes everything, now I really don't want him as an LI and just want him to have a reunion with her XD.

Zevran is my favorite romance from any game...ever. Not that I have many to choose from, but he wins by far.
I agree with what you said in a previous post about him saying he prefers women even with a male warden. Why would you say that if in a romance? Are you saying you're not as attracted or settling for the Warden? Always annoys me when it comes up.

[Chibi Elemental]

as long as the romance makes sense and is not the same salution as dragon age 2 everyone is bi. if the romance makes sense go with it if it does not then leave it be, but please please please bioware do not take the easy way out.

[Daissran]

EJ107 wrote...

Daissran wrote...

For an M/M (or bi option) I really want a love interest like Casavir from NWN2 - sophisticated, protective, caring and good:

"Casavir radiates an aura of strength even though his face often carries an expression of resignation. Well into his thirties, Casavir takes his status as a paladin very seriously and maintains a dignified and sophisticated air to him. Devoid of any smiles or excitement, Casavir is polite, measured and calm in speech and body language." - nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Casavir

Also, as an opposite kind, I would also prefer a Bishop-like love interest from NWN2 (could also be bi)  - tough, teasing, argumentative and evil:

"With his perpetual shadow of facial hair and rugged physique, Bishop is rather handsome even if his demeanor is thoroughly unwelcoming. Late into his twenties, this veteran of the wilderness has scars and burns across his skin. Constantly on the look out, sniffing the air and checking what’s behind him, Bishop’s hands are always on his weapons. Every time you look over to Bishop, he’s looking right back at you." - nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Bishop

I think its fun to have opposing love interests, you know, watching them clash and having different motives and interests, plus there's something for everybody XD

What do you think?

I really couldn't stand either Casavir or Bishop to be honest. The former was too dull and the latter was just evil.

If we had a male Neeshka on the other hand... 

Or a female Neeshka for that matter I guess. I really liked her. Although with Cassandra already confirmed as a companion I'm more worried about the male LI's at this stage than the female ones.

After Anders and Fenris I'm not sure I want opposing LI's. They just sort of ended up being personifications of their respectives beliefs (admittedly Anders was worse than Fenris when it came to this) and I'd already found it too grating by the end of the first act. 

I love the idea of a male Neeshka! I could totally see that happening, maybe as an elf?

[lxwkl31]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Blank-Slate-Blues wrote...

Frankly, I just hope I can stand the male LI's in this game. Anders and Fenris were just awful, awful people.

Awww... I like Anders. 

I find Zevran to be pretty interesting LI, but like someone said, I don't like him telling the male warden that he prefers girls. It just kinda ruins the moment at least for me. Third time the charm, like I said, so maybe Inquisitor male LI will blow all the fans away. 

I felt exactly the same way! When he said he preferred women I was like wtf? Ok... <_< It kind of cheapened the relationship and it felt like, were I female, he would be able to love me more. I still enjoyed the romance and I romance him every time I play DA:O but still, it irks me..

Modifié par lxwkl31, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:27 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I don't even remember that about the Zevran romance. Well, the interesting thing about Zevran is that he actually was bisexual, so I guess the writers tried to provide some nuance of character there. But I agree that it's rather awkward to tell the person you're dating that you generally prefer the opposite sex.

I hope we get really different LIs so that I can play two really different PCs. One older manly LI for example and one young and cute LI.

[mikeymoonshine]

I liked Player sexuality because If it wasn't in DA2 then would have been stuck with anders or I coulda just payed a female character or just not romanced anyone I actually did do those things in other Playthroughs.

[lxwkl31]

motomotogirl wrote...

I don't even remember that about the Zevran romance. Well, the interesting thing about Zevran is that he actually was bisexual, so I guess the writers tried to provide some nuance of character there. But I agree that it's rather awkward to tell the person you're dating that you generally prefer the opposite sex.

I hope we get really different LIs so that I can play two really different PCs. One older manly LI for example and one young and cute LI.

I like that idea! I'd probably prefer the young and cute LI because I just can't get on board with the older LI. Maybe it's because I'm young, idk. I do hope we get a more manly LI this time. Fenris was pretty manly but he was soooooooo bratty and depressed all the time. I just want  a LI I can be flirty with and be able to enjoy. That's why I like Zevran so much! I don't want the whole romance arc to be about me helping the M/M LI with his problems or consoling him at every turn. 

That said, I'm just glad that there will be m/m at all 

[Hazegurl]

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

[katerinafm]

Hazegurl wrote...

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

You could roleplay that Zevran fell in love with the male Warden as a whole person though, and that he's special (that's what I do)

[Battlebloodmage]

motomotogirl wrote...

I don't even remember that about the Zevran romance. Well, the interesting thing about Zevran is that he actually was bisexual, so I guess the writers tried to provide some nuance of character there. But I agree that it's rather awkward to tell the person you're dating that you generally prefer the opposite sex.

I hope we get really different LIs so that I can play two really different PCs. One older manly LI for example and one young and cute LI.

Sound like you're talking about Cullen and the Grey Warden. 

Anyway, I think if at least one of them would be a non-human like previous game. They did also say that the Grey Warden is a mentor type of character, so it's kinda like Wynne. I don't think he would be a romance option. With the commotion on the female Qunari thread, David Gaider may have been put off from writing a Qunari romance, so Iron Bull may not be an option even if he were a companion. Varric has Bianca, and I hope they reunite. I think maybe Dorian could be a romance alongside with Cullen if he were in the game or Cole. That's my prediction.

[Battlebloodmage]

katerinafm wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

You could roleplay that Zevran fell in love with the male Warden as a whole person though, and that he's special (that's what I do)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

[katerinafm]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

You could roleplay that Zevran fell in love with the male Warden as a whole person though, and that he's special (that's what I do)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

It was just a happier suggestion. If you noticed one of my previous posts I am also unhappy with what Zevran says about preferring women. I'm just trying to make the most of it

[Battlebloodmage]

katerinafm wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

You could roleplay that Zevran fell in love with the male Warden as a whole person though, and that he's special (that's what I do)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

It was just a happier suggestion. If you noticed one of my previous posts I am also unhappy with what Zevran says about preferring women. I'm just trying to make the most of it

I wasn't being snarky. The trope is about falling in love with that one person, that person is Zevran's one exception. In a sense, it's like someone said they would never fall in love again. I find that it can be quite romantic in a sense. 

[katerinafm]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Yeah Zev telling a man he's into women and was 'forced" into liking men did not sit too well with me. I'm not saying it should have been left out but I pretty much did not take the gay relationship with him seriously so my gay Cousland just used him like a toy until they would split, which I roleplayed as him believing it would be inevitable that Zev would fall for a woman in the future and leave.

You could roleplay that Zevran fell in love with the male Warden as a whole person though, and that he's special (that's what I do)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

It was just a happier suggestion. If you noticed one of my previous posts I am also unhappy with what Zevran says about preferring women. I'm just trying to make the most of it

I wasn't being snarky. The trope is about falling in love with that one person, that person is Zevran's one exception. In a sense, it's like someone said they would never fall in love again. I find that it can be quite romantic in a sense. 

Oh. I assumed you were calling me out for using excuses . Sorry

[Friera]

I kinda want McSmirk Baldy Elf to hook up with my manly man Inquisitioner. (But please give him some hair)

Any btw, people saying Zevran actually was bi. Well, so was Anders, since he hooked up with a man before he met Hawke.

[daveliam]

My issue with Zevran's clear preference for females was that he was the only option for a m/m romance. I was really turned off by the fact that he often flirted with NPCs and the female party members while you were in a m/m romance with him. It made me feel like my warden was more into Zev than the other way around and I didn't like that.

I wouldn't have minded it at all if there was another option. For example, I didn't love either Anders or Fenris either, but since there was an option, it made it easier to accept their flaws. I really loved Kaidan's romance in ME3. It was, by far, the most realistic and romantic option in any of the Bioware games. I hope that there is a m/m option like that: where the guy is a strong independent character who isn't relying on the PC to fix him.

Based on what we've seen so far, I think that, if he's a companion, Cullen is a shoo-in for a LI. Of course, we're not even sure if that's his role yet. Otherwise, I would place my money on Dorian (or the smirky elf mage, who I'm assuming is "Dorian") as the other option. He just seems like a good choice based on what we know about him: he's smirky (i.e. maybe snarky and sarcastic) and from an area of Thedas that we don't know much about, so there is a ton of room for interesting character development. I'd be surprised if they make Varric an option. I think he's going to be reunited with Bianca. He just doesn't seem the romance-able type of character.

Sidenote: I actually went back and counted up the number of m/m romances in all of the Bioware games. Did you know that there were only 6 guys open for m/m romance EVER? Sky, Zevran, Anders, Fenris, Kaidan, and Steve. That's it! Crazy.

Modifié par daveliam, 14 septembre 2013 - 04:42 .

[Lebanese Dude]

Battlebloodmage wrote...
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

Might I ask what your avi depicts? It's so adorable.



Back to the forum topic, I can't wait to see how gay flirtations and relationships are depicted in DA:I

I have one request though: Male (preferably Human) Warrior who is collected.

Before you say it, I know Fenris was a romance option, but not only was he broody, he also needed to be magically enhanced to be able to wield a two-handed weapon as an elf.

To be honest, a male equivalent of Aveline would be perfect. Of course I would MUCH prefer it if he didn't ask me to set him up with someone else....

A gay Alistair could work as well. 

In case you haven't noticed, I have a thing for shield-bearers

Modifié par Lebdood, 14 septembre 2013 - 04:52 .

[Battlebloodmage]

Lebdood wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfItsYouItsOkay

Might I ask what your avi depicts? It's so adorable.



Back to the forum topic, I can't wait to see how gay flirtations and relationships are depicted in DA:I

I have one request though: Male (preferably Human) Warrior who is collected.

Before you say it, I know Fenris was a romance option, but not only was he broody, he also needed to be magically enhanced to be able to wield a two-handed weapon as an elf.

To be honest, a male equivalent of Aveline would be perfect. Of course I would MUCH prefer it if he didn't ask me to set him up with someone else....

A gay Alistair could work as well. 

In case you haven't noticed, I have a thing for shield-bearers

Perfect then since Cullen is a templar who bears shield and a sword (Hint hint). 

My avatar is of Shepard and Kaidan and their children. I headcannon them to have a happy family after the Destroy ending. 

I do want for a warrior type LI as well since I always play as a mage, I like how a mage and a warrior compliment each other, a battle couple if you will. 

[Lebanese Dude]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Lebdood wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
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Perfect then since Cullen is a templar who bears shield and a sword (Hint hint). 

My avatar is of Shepard and Kaidan and their children. I headcannon them to have a happy family after the Destroy ending. 

I do want for a warrior type LI as well since I always play as a mage, I like how a mage and a warrior compliment each other, a battle couple if you will. 

I knew that's what it is. You must have played Shepard as a soldier then to fit that battle couple trope haha

It would be nice to have Cullen as a M/M romance option. Has he been confirmed as a companion? I have a strong feeling that he wont be...

I mean there's going to be three warrior right? (9 companions / 3 classes = 3 per class theoretically)

We have Cassandra and that grizzled Grey Warden. Would Cullen really be the third warrior? It would also make three human warriors as well. It all sounds sketchy to me. I was half-hoping the Grey Warden would be the option as well haha

I have a thing for silver foxes

Modifié par Lebdood, 14 septembre 2013 - 05:05 .

[katerinafm]

I wonder how Cullen would act if in a romance with a mage (it's not completely impossible since he falls for a female mage Warden, but that was before everything happened). Fenris was against mages, but that didn't matter at all when you romanced him. I wonder if Cullen will be more strict in his beliefs. Perhaps he wouldn't turn down a male partner because of his gender, but because of his magic. Now that would be a twist.

Opposites attract 8D

[katerinafm]

Lebdood wrote...

I was half-hoping the Grey Warden would be the option as well haha
I have a thing for silver foxes

Glad I'm not the only one who really wants him as an option

[Kallimachus]

In regard to Sebastian, I started off really liking him, and thinking he was hot, but as the game progressed I liked him less and less. I was somewhat relieved he left after I refused to kill Anders.

But yeah, I like the benevolent-holy-knight-in-shining-(dragonscale)-armour (and if he rides a white horse, then even better) character as an LI, even if it is a bit corny (And please don't quote this and interpret it to mean Cullen, I don't believe he answers the first word in my definition)

That said, I'd also enjoy a Flynn-Rider-type-character as an LI.

[Kallimachus]

Daissran wrote...

For an M/M (or bi option) I really want a love interest like Casavir from NWN2 - sophisticated, protective, caring and good:

"Casavir radiates an aura of strength even though his face often carries an expression of resignation. Well into his thirties, Casavir takes his status as a paladin very seriously and maintains a dignified and sophisticated air to him. Devoid of any smiles or excitement, Casavir is polite, measured and calm in speech and body language." - nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Casavir

Also, as an opposite kind, I would also prefer a Bishop-like love interest from NWN2 (could also be bi)  - tough, teasing, argumentative and evil:

"With his perpetual shadow of facial hair and rugged physique, Bishop is rather handsome even if his demeanor is thoroughly unwelcoming. Late into his twenties, this veteran of the wilderness has scars and burns across his skin. Constantly on the look out, sniffing the air and checking what’s behind him, Bishop’s hands are always on his weapons. Every time you look over to Bishop, he’s looking right back at you." - nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Bishop

I think its fun to have opposing love interests, you know, watching them clash and having different motives and interests, plus there's something for everybody XD

What do you think?

Casavir and Bishop were bi LIs? Is that a mod? I was under the impression that it was impossible to mod ss relatioships in the NWN2 OC...

Modifié par Kallimachus, 14 septembre 2013 - 05:42 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Sound like you're talking about Cullen and the Grey Warden. 

Actually I was thinking more like Cullen and Cole  Cullen is pretty manly to me... and he's older than me, so that qualifies as "older"  But if Cullen is out  Then Mr. Grey Warden would be an acceptable substitute!

daveliam wrote...

My issue with Zevran's clear preference for females was that he was the only option for a m/m romance. I was really turned off by the fact that he often flirted with NPCs and the female party members while you were in a m/m romance with him. It made me feel like my warden was more into Zev than the other way around and I didn't like that. 

Yeah, but would it have made you feel better if he flirted with other men? (He did kind of flirt with Alistair.)

Zevran was bi, not gay. AND he was a flirt. My Warden never took any of his flirting with others seriously 

[Kallimachus]

My main problem with Zevran wasn't that statement, but rather his cavalier attitude about murder. It was very difficult for me to oooh and aaah to his tales of murder, and whenever I did I felt like I was breaking character in favour of getting into his pants.