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[Dhiro]

I'm sorry, but as a gay male should I not be offended by the rape comment? To see someone who claims to want LGBT equality in the game compare Anders to a rapist just because he flirted with the player and made a bunch of straight men uncomfortable is absolutely revolting.

[Rinji the Bearded]

GlassElephant wrote...

A Kaidan mage would be nice in DA: I

Hey, whoa now.  A mage that commands loose cannons at will? I don't know, that sounds a little dangerous.  I don't think we're ready for that yet.

[Tootles FTW]

I had no problem with Anders being in love with my Hawke regardless of my romancing him, and even confronting me over being involved with Fenris - it was sad and indicitive of how desperate he was for an "anchor". I don't think this pushed Anders' romance in any way, in fact I'd consider Isabela - who was used in the promotional CGI trailer - to be the poster love interest.

Frankly, as a player of the ME series who is quite used to my FemShep's being harassed by every other asari who doesn't understand personal space, I thought Anders taking the initiative to throw out a flirt (regardless of gender) to be refreshing. The little boys who couldn't take it are the ones with the issues, not Bioware's writing team. Double standards, though, can always be found in regards to gamers and whether or not an NPC has a pair of boobs.

[kalasaurus]

motomotogirl wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I kinda want an older male LI. I notice that most LIs are pretty young. The dynamic relationship would probably change a bit if the LI you have is a bit older, maybe someone like Duncan. I always imagine the relationship between two person of roughly the same age to be more equal while if one is older, there is a sense of protective coming from the older LIs. When I romance Merrill, she feels very passive and dependent since she gives off the impression that she's younger than the protagonist. I imagine some of that dynamic would be reverse if the LI is older than you.

Do we know how old Zevran is? I pictured Zevran as being in his thirties, and my Warden as my 18ish.

But I know what you mean. I like that protective dynamic (so long as it doesn't verge on creepy). Cullen would definitely be an older LI, though not near Duncan's age I don't think. GAWWWWD I would have loved to romance Duncan LOL

Or Riordan.  Mmm, that accent.

My female Cousland propositioned Duncan for sex right in front of her Father!  Duncan politely declined.  I had to laugh.  Bryce speaks up when they talk about recruitment into the GW, but doesn't seem to mind her hitting on a stranger twice her age.  Hehe.

[riverbanks]

motomotogirl wrote...

Although I'd be curious to know what kind of inquisitor you guys all intend to make!! (Do we know for a fact we will be playing an inquisitor? Should I just say DA3 PC?)

I do plan to romance all the LIs at least once, so...

My main PC will be a male warrior, as my main Warden and main Hawke were, and definitely romance a s/s LI. If there are only two LIs of each gender and if one of them is Cullen, the other will likely be an elf, so that's who Warrior PC will likely be romancing (I'm saving Cullen for a mage, naturally -poor guy was made to fall for a mage in the end, nothing else would feel right). This would bring my track record of Thedas' Greatest Hero of The Week always romancing elves to a perfect three, oops.

...which very much plays into my interests of seeing the elves rise up in revolution and conquer equals rights one of these days, so that's pretty rad. 

My PCs will likely all be in their 30s if the Inquisitor thing turns out true. It just feels right that someone in such a position of power should be old enough to handle the responsibility. It also fits with Cullen's and Cassandra's average age well, as they're both easily into their late 30s by the time of Inquisition. 

Modifié par riverbanks, 12 février 2013 - 09:03 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I really, really liked Anders flirting with Hawke (regardless of gender, ofc)! I did not like that Hawke's only response was either "I like you, too! *kisses*" or "Wait, WHAT?! You? and ME?! LOLOL Don't joke like that bro."

[SgtElias]

motomotogirl wrote...

Oh, except for the fact that my Warden, who had pretty much been gay gay GAAAAAAAAY all his life had this smarmy, "Come here hither baby and let me do you reeeeal goood" smile on his face as he and Morrigan engaged in their ... scene.

I never saw that! Now I'm a little sad I missed it. My first (male) gay Warden didn't participate in the Dark Ritual, so I never got that scene. And the three other male characters I played were bi or straight.

I'm not meaning to imply that having your gay character respond in such a fashion wouldn't be jarring for you; just the way you described made it sound hysterical.

GlassElephant wrote...

Or Riordan.  Mmm, that accent.

Agreed. I sincerely hope that whoever did Riordan's voice returns, preferably to voice a companion.

Modifié par SgtElias, 12 février 2013 - 09:07 .

[CuriousArtemis]

GlassElephant wrote...

Or Riordan.  Mmm, that accent.

My female Cousland propositioned Duncan for sex right in front of her Father!  Duncan politely declined.  I had to laugh.  Bryce speaks up when they talk about recruitment into the GW, but doesn't seem to mind her hitting on a stranger twice her age.  Hehe.

He's used to her saucy saucy ways!! 

Oh yes, Riordan. Mmmmm.

[CuriousArtemis]

SgtElias wrote...

I'm not meaning to imply that having your gay character respond in such a fashion wouldn't be jarring for you; just the way you described made it sound hysterical.

It was supposed to be lol I never tire of describing that scene. But boy was I NOT laughing when it actually played out LOL!

[legion999]

No. It's not Christian. Especially if there are proms involved.

...The prom thing mad it too obvious didn't it?

Modifié par legion999, 12 février 2013 - 09:15 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Fine! We are going to have our own Super Gay DA Prom then! Tiaras for everyone!!!

[Battlebloodmage]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hehe, our first Bioware post. There wasn't one in the last thread. 

Hopefully, it would deter the troll from posting. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Hehe, our first Bioware post. There wasn't one in the last thread. 

Hopefully, it would deter the troll from posting. 

It came right after my post so I was like OMG did I get in trouble?! 

[SgtElias]

motomotogirl wrote...

Although I'd be curious to know what kind of inquisitor you guys all intend to make!! (Do we know for a fact we will be playing an inquisitor? Should I just say DA3 PC?)

My first character will be a female mage. I always play a mage first. But since we literally don't know anything else about, well, anything, regarding the next game, that's about as far as I can go.

I will say (pertaining to romance) that so far my "canon" romances have both been heterosexual, but that's not to say it'll always be so. I just happened to like Alistair/Anders more than Leliana, Merrill, or Isabela.

But none of that's technically related to M/M romance, so I'll stop derailing the thread.

[Battlebloodmage]

motomotogirl wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Hehe, our first Bioware post. There wasn't one in the last thread. 

Hopefully, it would deter the troll from posting. 

It came right after my post so I was like OMG did I get in trouble?! 

I thought he was talking to me since I joked a bit and saying "it's immoral". Hopefully, it's not me. 

Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Battlebloodmage wrote...
Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

Since when was stability an indication of a good romance option?

[Mummy22kids]

riverbanks wrote...

(...) Maybe this time just make it so that the gay options don't hit on you unless you flirt with them first to avoid making insecure straight male players feel uncomfortable the way they famously did with Anders (though I admit I wasn't a fan of Liara putting me on the spot back in ME either, so I understand where they're coming from).

Liara in Mass Effect is even worse. She imposes her feelings onto the player and acts like you're in a relationship with her throughout the entire trilogy, regardless of whether you're romancing someone else (or no one), regardless of how well or how badly you treat her, and regardless of you telling her in loud and clear words, we are NOT in a relationship ok goodbye.

I felt this more about Kaidan than Liara (playing as a female character).  Even if you turn Kaidan down in ME and are romancing someone else in ME3 he still asks you if you are interested in him unless you are "locked in" to your romance  In the playthrough I did when I romanced Garrus i found it a bit annoying that Kaidan would think I would go for him when I was plainly with Garrus- Even Tali knew we were together- but because I wasn't "locked in' he still propsitioned me.  I told him years ago I wasn't inerested- and I still wasn't- can't the guy take a hint.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

Since when was stability an indication of a good romance option?

Seriously. Qualities that make for a fulfilling real-life relationship are not necessarily things that make an engaging and thought-provoking fictional narrative.

[Battlebloodmage]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

Since when was stability an indication of a good romance option?

If he does something rash, it could ruin the romance somewhat for me. I romanced Anders and when he blew up the chantry, I want to scream "WTH, Anders?" to his face. I know that we shouldn't be influenced every action of the LI, but it just annoys me how Anders does stuffs behind my back sometimes. 

I know that not all romance are perfect, so I guess it's just me pouting about stuffs that weren't the ways I imagine. It makes great narrative, but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm not opposed to stuffs like that per se, but I guess I want at least one normal romance out of all the crazy ones.

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 12 février 2013 - 09:25 .

[upsettingshorts]

I suppose it comes down to whether or not romances should be vehicles for wish fulfillment or compelling drama unto themselves.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Battlebloodmage wrote...
If he does something rash, it could ruin the romance somewhat for me. I romanced Anders and when he blew up the chantry, I want to scream "WTH, Anders?" to his face. I know that we shouldn't be influenced every action of the LI, but it just annoys me how Anders does stuffs behind my back sometimes. 

See that's the thing about relationships, though.  They involve usually at least two unique people, right?  Anders was his own character with his own goals and thoughts and etc.  Doesn't make the romance bad, or anything.  It just didn't have that kittens and rainbows thing going on about it.

[SgtElias]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

Based on the Cole we know right now (not . . . whoever he might be in the game, assuming he's IN the game), I'd feel like I was taking advantage of him. He's got a lot to figure out without bringing romance into it.

Though who knows? Maybe it's something that he'll be curious about all by himself.

[CuriousArtemis]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

I haven't read Asunder, so all I know about Cole is that he is a murdering spirit-type in the shape/form of a cute young man.

Since I"m pretty shallow, my answer thus far is ABSOLUTELY! 

[syllogi]

motomotogirl wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Anyway... Would Cole be a good LIs though since he seems to be so unstable. 

I haven't read Asunder, so all I know about Cole is that he is a murdering spirit-type in the shape/form of a cute young man.

Since I"m pretty shallow, my answer thus far is ABSOLUTELY! 

LOL, the catch is that nobody (usually) remembers him, or can see him.  And sometimes he kills people who see him, just because.

I'm not really sure that he was described as "cute" either, but hey, who knows.  As long as it doesn't play out like "Fifty First Dates", I'd at least give it a chance.  

[Battlebloodmage]

I guess it depends on how you want your romance to be. An imperfect romance such as Anders is not a bad romance. I guess it depends on how you want your romance to be. It would make good storytelling for variation in romance option, but drama without happy ending just wasn't my thing, I suppose. Anders and Hawke become fugitive, Jacob cheated, Thane died. All these romances have very gloom outcome, and on subsequent playthrough, I just feel discourage to romance them since I know that the PC and the LIs won't have a happy ending together. I care more about whether the romance would last rather than the progression of that romance.