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[riverbanks]

Dhiro wrote...

They may just be part of the same organization though, so who knows? There is also the Grey Warden, but BioWare usually shies away from giving us older LIs (I'd put him in his early 40s).

idk like I mentioned before, Cullen is at least into his late 30s as of the time of Inquistion, possibly Cassandra as well. I don't think they'll let us romance the Warden anyway, mostly on the principle of him being a Warden and possibly that older Responsible Adult figure we had in Wynne and somewhat in Aveline.

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Would anyone be interested in dwarves? I'm a bit shallow, so I doubt I would romance one since I don't find them very appealing. Many people love Varric though.

I would totally be interested in romancing a dwarf (Zev had the cutest kiss cutscene with dwarven Wardens), but reallistically I doubt we'll ever get a dwarven LI. It's a hard sell, despite everyone's theoretical love for Varric, I don't know that everyone who claimed to want him as a LI would actually have taken up the romance.

Thetford wrote...

I have a question, why do people think Cullen and Cassandra are likely candidates to be companions and love interests?

Mostly wishful thinking combined with vague hints colored by more wishful thinking. Cullen and Cassandra were both in the (old and possibly very outdated at this point) leaked character concept art, Greg Ellis confirmed doing VO work as Cullen for DA:I in some unspecified capacity, and Cassandra got a whole solo film about her pre DA2 adventures when in DA2 she was really just a minor peripheral character. Could be nothing, could be everything. Mostly we kind of take for granted that they'll be companions and LIs because there's a huge fan clamor for both, and fan clamor's capable of a lot (see, Kaidan in ME3). It seems more likely than not, but nothing's confirmed until it's confirmed.

I shall be sad if neither of them make it as companions, they're really interesting characters.

Modifié par riverbanks, 13 février 2013 - 02:00 .

[ElitePinecone]

He was deliberately written to be heading to Orlais at the end of DA2, I doubt the writers would include another older dark-haired Warden running around in the world when Stroud fits the bill. Plus, does he really look that different? Apart from the hairstyle?

As in, the most obvious explanation - that's Stroud - strikes me as the most likely.

[Soundsystem]

SgtElias wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Suspension of disbelief varies for everybody. In my case, I don't even think about dragons, magic, other fantasy stuff, but when everyone around me is open to romancing everyone else and its not stated somewhere that this is a thing that every single person is like, I head tilt.

Maybe I'm from a weird place, or have strange friends, but this seems completely normal to me. In a house with six adults (and this isn't including close friends that don't live with me), only one is straight. I had no problem whatsoever believing that my character, as well as four of their companions, would be sexually interested in both genders.

I should, however, preface that statement by admitting that I myself (and my husband) are bi, and so many of our friends are bisexual that sometimes I just think that everyone is, even though that's BS and I know it.

Anyway, I'm not trying to say that it's silly if that's where the realism broke down for you, just that it seemed so normal to me that I was completely taken aback when others reacted negatively. 

Just wanted to jump in and say that my friens group is very much the same. Very large bisexual/queer population and only a couple straight folks. So I also didn't find anything jarring with romances and DA2.

That being said, if people want DA3 characters to have set sexualities then there needs to be an equal amount. I'm so sick of seeing (not just in Bioware game) there being like.. three romance options for straight men, two options for straight women, one option for gay men and one for gay women. Because. Really. Especially if the romances are not as large as the straight romances are. 

[erilben]

ElitePinecone wrote...

He was deliberately written to be heading to Orlais at the end of DA2, I doubt the writers would include another older dark-haired Warden running around in the world when Stroud fits the bill. Plus, does he really look that different? Apart from the hairstyle?

As in, the most obvious explanation - that's Stroud - strikes me as the most likely.

Stroud doesn't say he's going to Orlais. He just says he's on a mission, and can't tell anything more about it.

[frostajulie]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

 Just gonna say that if you thought sex was the sole defining thing about Zevran's relationship, you either didn't play it, or didn't pay attention to it.  

QFT

And that makes me sad, you missed something awesome, but had to be on PC ejoslin fixed it so you got the correct dialogue to trigger at the end, Bioware never bothered to fix it themselves.  And it was worth the fix. 

[New Display Name]

Is it not possible that most (or more than in reality) people in Thedas are bisexual? That wouldn't necessarily have to mean that they end up in romantic/sexual relationships with the same sex.

"Every LI being bisexual is unrealistic" argument only matters if Dragon Age is trying to have realistic sexuality demographics. If it isn't, then the argument is as valid as "darkspawn are unrealistic."

Also, if you don't flirt (and/or as well as other options), you/your player character don't necessarily need to know in every playthrough that the four love interests play for both teams.

[RetroActiv]

It just seems odd to me that it's gotten to the point that it's not even a question of "if" but a question of "who" and "how many" gay/bi companions we will see in each successive installment. Based on what we've seen so far with the dragon age series it seems bioware is has made it a mandatory rule to include a minimum of at least 2 or more major gay/bi companion characters in each game. I really really really hope that romances are handled differently in DAIII. Making everyone bisexual was just plain lazy and stupid imo. I was fine with how it was done in Origins. I'd like to see something in the way of Kelly Chambers esque romance options who aren't necessarily companions.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'm back after some Mardi Gras madness!!

So I didn't get to read everyone's fantasy Inquisitor/DA3 PC but it looks like we have quite a few potential mages and one person said s/he'd play a warrior. No love for the rogues?!

Those of you who are Cullen fans -- definitely a mage PC then? I'm still going with my rogue.

So if there is a Tevinter or just plain mage LI -- would you not want to also romance him with a mage or are you more into warrior/rogue for that type of character? I found it quite adorable to romance Anders with a mage Hawke, one who was more freespirited and open-minded about magic, and maybe needed to be taken under Anders' wing a bit in regards to blood magic and demons lol

[Battlebloodmage]

Like I said, I'm fine with DAO approach as long as the number of LIs are equal. I don't want to stuck with just one LI.

[Battlebloodmage]

motomotogirl wrote...

I'm back after some Mardi Gras madness!!

So I didn't get to read everyone's fantasy Inquisitor/DA3 PC but it looks like we have quite a few potential mages and one person said s/he'd play a warrior. No love for the rogues?!

Those of you who are Cullen fans -- definitely a mage PC then? I'm still going with my rogue.

So if there is a Tevinter or just plain mage LI -- would you not want to also romance him with a mage or are you more into warrior/rogue for that type of character? I found it quite adorable to romance Anders with a mage Hawke, one who was more freespirited and open-minded about magic, and maybe needed to be taken under Anders' wing a bit in regards to blood magic and demons lol

If Cole is a LI, I would want to romance him with a mage since mages and demons have affinity with one another. Cullen is destined to be with a mage as well. It just seems to fit his story so well. Rogues and warriors are just too similar to each other that I don't think it makes a difference narrative-wise. 

[Harle Cerulean]

RetroActiv wrote...

It just seems odd to me that it's gotten to the point that it's not even a question of "if" but a question of "who" and "how many" gay/bi companions we will see in each successive installment. Based on what we've seen so far with the dragon age series it seems bioware is has made it a mandatory rule to include a minimum of at least 2 or more major gay/bi companion characters in each game. I really really really hope that romances are handled differently in DAIII. Making everyone bisexual was just plain lazy and stupid imo. I was fine with how it was done in Origins. I'd like to see something in the way of Kelly Chambers esque romance options who aren't necessarily companions.

We ought to make a bingo card for these jokers.  "Bisexual = lazy/weak characterization" can be the free space.

[New Display Name]

In order to give everyone equal romance opportunities WITHOUT having everyone bisexual, you'd need

1 straight male love interest, 1 gay male love interest + 1 straight female love interest, 1 lesbian love interest

Which means people would only get one choice

or, you'd need

1 male straight love interest, 1 male gay love interest, 1 male bisexual love interest
1 female straight love interest, 1 female lesbian love interest, 1 female bisexual love interest

Which is 6 romances.

Having 4 bisexual love interests is smarter, more efficient, and would probably give Bioware more time and money to focus on other parts of the game.

[nightscrawl]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If Cole is a LI, I would want to romance him with a mage since mages and demons have affinity with one another. Cullen is destined to be with a mage as well. It just seems to fit his story so well. Rogues and warriors are just too similar to each other that I don't think it makes a difference narrative-wise.

I like the idea of matching class with the LI also, I frequently do that with DA2.

[Nefla]

I wish there was a gay LI that was a strong, manly, independant guy like Canderous, Sagacious Zu, Sten, Zaeed, etc...

[CuriousArtemis]

HJF4 wrote...

Having 4 bisexual love interests is smarter, more efficient, and would probably give Bioware more time and money to focus on other parts of the game.

Yep and that's the main reason DG said that it's likely they'll stick with this format for DA3!

[CuriousArtemis]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rogues and warriors are just too similar to each other that I don't think it makes a difference narrative-wise. 

Not true, my friend! Well granted, the game itself does not really acknowledge the difference. But I see a warrior as a more noble type character, whereas a rogue is more clever and willing to use his wiley wiley ways

[CuriousArtemis]

Nefla wrote...

I wish there was a gay LI that was a strong, manly, independant guy like Canderous, Sagacious Zu, Sten, Zaeed, etc...

We don't really get manly LIs in general for DA. But I agree that it'd be a nice change of pace. Reason why I'm 100% behind the idea of a qunari LI...

[Harle Cerulean]

motomotogirl wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I wish there was a gay LI that was a strong, manly, independant guy like Canderous, Sagacious Zu, Sten, Zaeed, etc...

We don't really get manly LIs in general for DA. But I agree that it'd be a nice change of pace. Reason why I'm 100% behind the idea of a qunari LI...

I think that depends on your definition of 'manly'.  If by manly you mean 'macho' then... yes, you're correct.

[nightscrawl]

Or a cuddly bear like Varric.

[CuriousArtemis]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

I think that depends on your definition of 'manly'.  If by manly you mean 'macho' then... yes, you're correct.

Yep, pretty much  I'm talking Sten, Duncan, Donnic, Riordan ... you know the type 

[Nefla]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I wish there was a gay LI that was a strong, manly, independant guy like Canderous, Sagacious Zu, Sten, Zaeed, etc...

We don't really get manly LIs in general for DA. But I agree that it'd be a nice change of pace. Reason why I'm 100% behind the idea of a qunari LI...

I think that depends on your definition of 'manly'.  If by manly you mean 'macho' then... yes, you're correct.

I do

[CuriousArtemis]

nightscrawl wrote...

Or a cuddly bear like Varric.

LOL Varric defies classification. He's got the manly hairy chest but yet he's a sensitive writer...

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Nefla wrote...

I wish there was a gay LI that was a strong, manly, independant guy like Canderous, Sagacious Zu, Sten, Zaeed, etc...

Or a love interest in general. It's always the more sensitive more softspoken guy.
Edit: Kind of ninajed.

Modifié par HJF4, 13 février 2013 - 03:56 .

[Harle Cerulean]

motomotogirl wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

I think that depends on your definition of 'manly'.  If by manly you mean 'macho' then... yes, you're correct.

Yep, pretty much  I'm talking Sten, Duncan, Donnic, Riordan ... you know the type 

I know.  Just wanted to point out that there's more than one way to be a man.  Nothing wrong with wanting a macho-type for a change, as long as you're not saying that only macho types qualify as men.  

[riverbanks]

motomotogirl wrote...

So if there is a Tevinter or just plain mage LI -- would you not want to also romance him with a mage or are you more into warrior/rogue for that type of character? I found it quite adorable to romance Anders with a mage Hawke, one who was more freespirited and open-minded about magic, and maybe needed to be taken under Anders' wing a bit in regards to blood magic and demons lol

I don't like to romance mages with a mage PC because it all feels a little too cool kids clique. Specially in DA2 when mages were such a big plot point, I tried to romance Anders with a mage Hawke, but it felt too... us special snowflakes versus the big bad world, which is not my thing. If the plot of Inquisition focuses on mages again, I'll def be needing a different class to romance the mage LI(s) so I don't have that weird self-isolating feeling again.

But a lot of people seem to prefer Anders with mage Hawkes, so what do I know. 

I also just like to romance mages with other classes because they're all so touchy about someone who's not a mage being able to love one despite the stigma. I like to show them that yes, they can and deserve to be loved them even by someone who doesn't have magic. Conversely, when I'm the mage, I like to romance warriors or rogues to shove it to the system, my PC deserves to be loved and understood by someone who doesn't fear them.

Same reason I like human/elf romances so much too. Zev and Fenris were very mistreated by humans and generally assume the worst in them, I like giving them some love and showing that there's something in humans that can be good and loving and kind. Maybe. Sometimes. 

Modifié par riverbanks, 13 février 2013 - 04:02 .