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[Battlepope190]

Still a pointless evo.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I've been meaning to try it. This buff makes that intention easier to follow through with. So yeah, I'll try it.

[R0binME]

Kalas321 wrote...

R0binME wrote...

isnt it evolution 6?

nope 

5a=5
6b=6

Title of thread and quote from balance changes are confusing me:unsure:

OT: I won't take it. Never put your life in the hands of rng

[IllusiveManJr]

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing.

I understand the utility of it. But off host it can be a nightmare trying to set off a Biotic Charge. The last thing I want is more frustration heaped onto that by trying to use it more. Especially when I get a Russian host and it's down to just me and him because he's using a toaster as a router.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

Been doing it for the Asariguard. It was fine then, I'm sure it'll be awesome now.

/hipster

[Jayhau]

Like it... Would be nice if they did it to stasis as well

[Eelectrica]

I can see it having use on Pheonix VG. Charge then smash straight away.
But having a 50% chance means 50% chance of failing when you need it most.
So probably not.

[SirRooster]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing.

I understand the utility of it. But off host it can be a nightmare trying to set off a Biotic Charge. The last thing I want is more frustration heaped onto that by trying to use it more. Especially when I get a Russian host and it's down to just me and him because he's using a toaster as a router.

Okay

This is an EVO for people who ONLY play vanguard hosting

[Original Twigman]

Battlepope190 wrote...

Still a pointless evo.

not true!!

[Learn To Love Yourself]

It was already very useful on the Volus. I'll definitely be trying it out on some squishy classes. If it works very well, it will give some incentive to carrying a heavy weapon, too.

Even before the buff, there would be times I'd get sometimes up to 6 charges in a row with the bonus power.

Hopefully, it will actually work and increase chances of a bonus power.

[solidprice]

Jayhau wrote...

Like it... Would be nice if they did it to stasis as well

this. asari guard would be even better.
and gamble charge? might promote vanguards and try it out,who knows, there might be a few ill try this on.

[IllusiveManJr]

I'm sure if you're playing with BSNers or friends and know that the connection is good you can use it safely, but for people who play public matches it's just too much of a risk.

[Original Twigman]

SirRooster wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing.

I understand the utility of it. But off host it can be a nightmare trying to set off a Biotic Charge. The last thing I want is more frustration heaped onto that by trying to use it more. Especially when I get a Russian host and it's down to just me and him because he's using a toaster as a router.

Okay

This is an EVO for people who ONLY play vanguard hosting

also not true!!

[Cyonan]

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing. Do you miss those 225 shields on Gold with your Drellguard? Those 250 shields on your no fitness Volus Cannonball? Do you need the other half of your shields with a Krogan Vanguard with CycloMod IV and heavy melee DR? All you need full barrier for is for the vanilla humans and the Slayer, because their powers depend on how much barriers they have.

Seriously people, you just don't know... BioWare finally struck gold with these balance changes. 50% chance is massive considering how many times in a row I could charge with 33%.

It can actually mean the difference between dying to a single burst from an enemy or not for quite a few Vanguards if you fail your RNG roll.

[Deerber]

SirRooster wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing.

I understand the utility of it. But off host it can be a nightmare trying to set off a Biotic Charge. The last thing I want is more frustration heaped onto that by trying to use it more. Especially when I get a Russian host and it's down to just me and him because he's using a toaster as a router.

Okay

This is an EVO for people who ONLY play vanguard hosting

Sooo... It's an EVO for smart people? 

[YouAreHorse]

Maybe on the DrellGuard or AsariVang. Maybe.

[Kalas Magnus]

R0binME wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

R0binME wrote...

isnt it evolution 6?

nope 

5a=5
6b=6

Title of thread and quote from balance changes are confusing me:unsure:

OT: I won't take it. Never put your life in the hands of rng

messed up.  

6a=5 

Modifié par Kalas321, 12 février 2013 - 09:14 .

[Blarg]

I prefer to have shields on most vanguards, though I suppose it could help with damage output on the volus and krogan...

[MetalDeggial]

Cyonan wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Some of the responses on this thread are funny. People don't know what they are missing. Do you miss those 225 shields on Gold with your Drellguard? Those 250 shields on your no fitness Volus Cannonball? Do you need the other half of your shields with a Krogan Vanguard with CycloMod IV and heavy melee DR? All you need full barrier for is for the vanilla humans and the Slayer, because their powers depend on how much barriers they have.

Seriously people, you just don't know... BioWare finally struck gold with these balance changes. 50% chance is massive considering how many times in a row I could charge with 33%.

It can actually mean the difference between dying to a single burst from an enemy or not for quite a few Vanguards if you fail your RNG roll.

Oh, but it never did make a difference in my survivability. It just improved it. Most of the vanguards have lame shields and will bite the dust as soon as they pop out of charge, full shields or not, unless they can charge again. If you got your precious 400 shields on a Drellguard you are still going to bite the dust, whether you come out at the start of an enemy burst, in the middle of it or at the end of it. You rely on gating, light cooldowns and soft cover to survive with those fragile kits. And why on Earth should a Krogan Vanguard care about 100% barriers when he's got all the DR in the World? It doesn't make sense that people are against this evo. Hell, do you even realize you can also select shield regen builds with the Kroguard and the Brawler and get the other half of those shields back anyway in the middle of a charge?

Oh, and I host my games. Hell, when you are a vanguard, you should always host your games or die.

Oh well... Some people should just try these things instead of judging them methinks. Bonus Power was awesome then, and now it's gonna be more awesome. But if you don't like it, don't take it. Nobody's forcing you. The mo fo me the mo bettah.

Modifié par MetalDeggial, 12 février 2013 - 09:24 .

[Apl_Juice]

 50% chance? I'll take it!

Now I can Biotic Slash after Cha--

Now I can Smash after--

Now I can Nova after--

Now I can throw a grenade aft---

*ahem*

Nevermind.

Modifié par Apl_J, 12 février 2013 - 09:22 .

[tatski]

A significant buff IMO... Great for non-tank/squishy vanguards like Volus/Drell/Phoenix...

[megawug]

I'm gonna try it on my AV. Might be cool, might go horribly wrong. :>

[holdenagincourt]

Jack Crapper wrote...

It was already very useful on the Volus. I'll definitely be trying it out on some squishy classes. If it works very well, it will give some incentive to carrying a heavy weapon, too.

Even before the buff, there would be times I'd get sometimes up to 6 charges in a row with the bonus power.

Hopefully, it will actually work and increase chances of a bonus power.

All true, Jack....

As I was telling a certain sexy Geth last night, this change further detaches vanguards from the encumbrance system. But alienation from weight has been the general trend the game has gone in since launch.

I would have preferred 40% since I think of these things conservatively, but 50% isn't a bad change in the universe of bad balance changes.

[Original Twigman]

megawug wrote...

I'm gonna try it on my AV. Might be cool, might go horribly wrong. :>

try my batarian vangaurd build! its tanky enought that you will still survive if you slip up!!!

[Arppis]

Might give it a try.