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[Computron2000]

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

[Original Twigman]

Computron2000 wrote...

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

would be too much. People would just use that instead of 100% barrier

[landylan]

Maybe it'd be good on a heavy weapons drell or asariguard since there grenades are off cooldown, and the extra charge basically counters the long cooldown.

[AHAHHH]

50% chance: double BC = 100% shields + 2x damage
vs. always 100% shields

this will make the volus a monster.

[henzinovitost]

Never used the 6A. With 6B, the biotic charge is a perfect panic button, never even contemplated on using 6A and even with the change from 33% to 50%, I still won't use it. Certainty beats likelihood.

[Clayless]

Who doesn't use 6A on a Kroguard already? It's now just even better.

[henzinovitost]

Robosexual wrote...

Who doesn't use 6A on a Kroguard already? It's now just even better.

I don't.

[Original Twigman]

henzinovitost wrote...

Never used the 6A. With 6B, the biotic charge is a perfect panic button, never even contemplated on using 6A and even with the change from 33% to 50%, I still won't use it. Certainty beats likelihood.

why are you panicking that frequently? I think this post has more to do with your own personal vanguard experience than an all encompassing point, especially considering you have never used it!!!

[Clayless]

henzinovitost wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Who doesn't use 6A on a Kroguard already? It's now just even better.

I don't.

That means you're doing it wrong.

[Deerber]

Feneckus wrote...

Why would anyone choose that evo on a Drellguard ?

Do I want to charge again ? Or do you I want to use my Claymore and/or grenades ? Hmmm, tough choice 

It only makes sense on the Volus, Kroguard and Broguard IMO.

Who says I'm using a Claymore on my Drellguard? 

[cronshaw]

I will try it out
probably on the batarian since he gets fist shields

[Computron2000]

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

would be too much. People would just use that instead of 100% barrier

Its consistency vs rolling the dice. If you depend on the free BC in any way, you're screwed if it does not come up. Maybe at 50% its attractive to the risk takers, but i don't like depending on something that might not work when i'm low on health (on a character with BC + stimpacks the yes, 50% is fine)

[Original Twigman]

Computron2000 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

would be too much. People would just use that instead of 100% barrier

Its consistency vs rolling the dice. If you depend on the free BC in any way, you're screwed if it does not come up. Maybe at 50% its attractive to the risk takers, but i don't like depending on something that might not work when i'm low on health (on a character with BC + stimpacks the yes, 50% is fine)

wouldn't it be the player's fault, not the evolution, if they are in that situation?

Personally, when i used 33%, i still had a Plan B if it didn't give me the bonus power. If I didn't have a plan B... then I wasn't really prepared to take such a evolution...

75% is too much. Once people saw the "great" youtube videos of people using it effectively, people would jump all over it.

Modifié par Original Stikman, 12 février 2013 - 10:44 .

[henzinovitost]

Robosexual wrote...

That means you're doing it wrong.

No, that means you think I'm doing it wrong. It's a matter of opinion.

[ToLazy4Name]

I already used it on a couple of my Vanguards, and now they'll be even better.

Nothing like being able to come out of a Biotic Charge and immediately hit my target with a 40% Power Synergy buffed Smash.

[drmoose00]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Why would anyone choose that evo on a Drellguard ?

Do I want to charge again ? Or do you I want to use my Claymore and/or grenades ? Hmmm, tough choice 

It only makes sense on the Volus, Kroguard and Broguard IMO.

I hear some people do it when they want to tank two turrets, yo. They were eaten shortly there after.

That said, I think the evolution could be fun.  I'll try it next time I've got a respect card.

it was a blast with the drell.

really, on gold, the drell has such low shields what is that extra 50% protecting you from? you at shieldgate instantly anyway. charge, shoot your claymore, and then charge again faster to the next target. actually i think fro the claymore it would be great, since you would avoid the longer cooldown.

[Original Twigman]

henzinovitost wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

That means you're doing it wrong.

No, that means you think I'm doing it wrong. It's a matter of opinion.

I think your "certainty beats liklihood" is also a matter of opinion... Given that you have never even tried it... its difficult to take the opinion with strong merit.

[bondiboy]

^ also this. (Computrons post)  I mainly charge to refill shields and if there is an Atlas on the field even better because it is like a shield well . Use it to refill shields and then go back to killing mooks. Charging in this situation with 6A is inviting disaster with my playstyle . INot saying that the the 6A evo won't work for others with a different approach.

Modifié par stricko, 12 février 2013 - 10:50 .

[henzinovitost]

Original Stikman wrote...

why are you panicking that frequently? I think this post has more to do with your own personal vanguard experience than an all encompassing point, especially considering you have never used it!!!

Where did I say I was panicking frequently? I said BC was a perfect panic button, never said there was no other purpose beyond panic button to it. Neither did I say that I panicked frequently, that's just your assumption. I just expressed my opinion, that I prefer certainty over chance.

[Computron2000]

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

would be too much. People would just use that instead of 100% barrier

Its consistency vs rolling the dice. If you depend on the free BC in any way, you're screwed if it does not come up. Maybe at 50% its attractive to the risk takers, but i don't like depending on something that might not work when i'm low on health (on a character with BC + stimpacks the yes, 50% is fine)

wouldn't it be the player's fault, not the evolution, if they are in that situation?

Personally, when i used 33%, i still had a Plan B if it didn't give me the bonus power. If I didn't have a plan B... then I wasn't really prepared to take such a evolution...

75% is too much. Once people saw the "great" youtube videos of people using it effectively, people would jump all over it.

In a way yes, its the players fault for choosing that evo and not thinking it through, but then you already have people swearing that the new 50% free BC is the same as 100% shields recharge.

I can see the free BC useful for defensive vanguards but needing a plan B puts it into the shadow category for me as in needing to play ore cautiously

[Original Twigman]

stricko wrote...

^ also this. (Computrons post)  I mainly charge to refill shields and if there is an Atlas on the field even better because it is like a shield well . Use it to refill shields and then go back to killing mooks. Charging in this situation with 6A is inviting disaster with my playstyle . INot saying that the the 6A evo won't work for others with a different approach.

good point.

I, personally, charge to close-in... not necessarily to refill shields.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

i will be using rank 6A on my volus vanguard, he was awsum with no cooldown before the buff. and now its better, and on the volguard with 200% and biotic orbs, the cooldown at worst is a second
cant wait to try him tomorrow, great buffs BIOWARE!

[Original Twigman]

Computron2000 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

No, would only consider it if it hits 75%

would be too much. People would just use that instead of 100% barrier

Its consistency vs rolling the dice. If you depend on the free BC in any way, you're screwed if it does not come up. Maybe at 50% its attractive to the risk takers, but i don't like depending on something that might not work when i'm low on health (on a character with BC + stimpacks the yes, 50% is fine)

wouldn't it be the player's fault, not the evolution, if they are in that situation?

Personally, when i used 33%, i still had a Plan B if it didn't give me the bonus power. If I didn't have a plan B... then I wasn't really prepared to take such a evolution...

75% is too much. Once people saw the "great" youtube videos of people using it effectively, people would jump all over it.

In a way yes, its the players fault for choosing that evo and not thinking it through, but then you already have people swearing that the new 50% free BC is the same as 100% shields recharge.

I can see the free BC useful for defensive vanguards but needing a plan B puts it into the shadow category for me as in needing to play ore cautiously

50% free BC is definitely not the same as 100% shield recharge.

I personally use the Bonus power to be even more offensive. So i think the "defensive vanguard" thing is more of a personal experience/opinion that could potentially be changed if you experienced it differently.

"needing" a plan B isn't a hinderance. All excellent players have an array of differnt "plans" in order to be more effective. Solely relying on one plan is more of a hinderance than understanding that one plan cannot encompass all situations

[henzinovitost]

Original Stikman wrote...

I think your "certainty beats liklihood" is also a matter of opinion... Given that you have never even tried it... its difficult to take the opinion with strong merit.

Then don't. I just prefer certainty over likelyhood, that's my general mindset. Never said it was the best universal approach for everyone. Just threw in my little chip.

[Feneckus]

With a Drellguard, if after the first biotic charge, the enemy isn't dead or almost dead, you're doing it wrong.