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[Titus Thongger]

I'd still take full barrier restore on the kroguard. replenishing over 3000 effective barriers in a single charge is nothing to turn your nose up at

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

It's fun to see different schools of thoughts, some seeing it's better on beefier classes, some thinking it's better on weaker ones.
I think I'll use it on Smashguard, Ballguard and Batguards

[Wyld Star]

Feneckus wrote...

Why would anyone choose that evo on a Drellguard ?

Do I want to charge again ? Or do you I want to use my Claymore and/or grenades ? Hmmm, tough choice 

It only makes sense on the Volus, Kroguard and Broguard IMO.

There's always going to be Phantoms around, especially on Platinum.  If you host a lot, they need to be charged before you claymore them to deal with stupid on-host DR.. :/

[vonSlash]

No. I generally take permanent passive buffs over effects with non-certain activation chances.

[Smallpox_Jenkins]

Gonna respec one of my Vanguards and see how it is.
Never took that evo ever though.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

I´m so bored,that I will try this.
After all,I have to spend credits on something.

[The JoeMan]

Tried this on my Ex-Cerb Vanguard and he felt considerably beefier. It was also nice to have smash available right out of charge half the time.

I do still get the feeling thought that the description should read: "Grants a 50% chance of not causing a cooldown but still only gives a 25% chance that Charge will activate the first time you push the Y button."

[Tyrannus00]

Nope.

[HolyAvenger]

People really need to try it before they pass judgement. Its a lot of fun on my asariguard.

[Stinja]

I already used it on my Volus Vanguard - the shield restore 50 or 100% didnt mean much after all... so this increase is going to be AWESOME!
I've already had 5 or 6 consecutive charges, cant wait for double digit bowling

[Wolfsbladex]

plundergore wrote...

Where did you see this change?

LMFAO:O

[Wolfsbladex]

 Depends. If you're choosing a shield retard (Drell, Volus) it can be handy considering their shields are like 300 max so its not like a makes a different if there shields are maxed or not 

[Homey C-Dawg]

I tried it with a few vanguards today. Asari, batarian, drell, and phoenix.

Still don't like it. On occasion it's fun when you get two or three (or more) charges in a row, but overall the whole experience reminded me that I don't like random elements in my builds. My playstyle is too dependent on knowing exactly what I can do next.

Maybe I'd like it more on a kroguard or something. Don't really care, I'll stick with full shield evo.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 13 février 2013 - 09:52 .

[FlowCytometry]

Heri wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

henzinovitost wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Who doesn't use 6A on a Kroguard already? It's now just even better.

I don't.

That means you're doing it wrong.

Why is that, exactly? A standard Kroguard build with a Reegar is all about melting the faces off of enemies. By taking full barrier restore, you get more DPS time before you have to worry about charging. Taking bonus power means that you're going to wind up charging more (otherwise why take the evo), which takes away from pewpew time.

Unless you're using some off-the-wall Kroguard build which uses BC as its primary damage source, I don't see how bonus power is in any way superior to full barrier restore when using a Reegar.

Its not better for weapons/reegar based KV- not at all. But that's not to say it isn't fun or semi-effective- works better w/ melee builds. Def far from optimal for the KV, though.. but that more has to do w/ the retarded 75% melee multiplier on armor for Krogans, shoody melee tracking, openess to SKs, and the broken-ness of the HVB_Shredder modded Reegar w/ high level ammo on any kit you put it on (dwarfing any other build/option in comparison).

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 13 février 2013 - 10:16 .

[Ronnie Blastoff]

I've been using this Evo since I came to the realization that everything "that matters" shoots your shields off with 1 shot anyway, so the more often your recharge them, the more you survive. Only time I see going the 100% barriers path as more usefull is if your playing bronze, then in that situation, you wouldn't even need it, so its almost useless to take the now barrier path.

My asari vanguard was tearing things apart at 33%, lol bioware, do you even concider the way people who don't spam bronze and silver play? Vanguard (in the right hands) just became an almost unstoppable class, unless the "no charge even though its a clear path to target" crap kicks in.

[Supremocognito]

Yes. It was already decent at 33%, now it's insane. You can get 7 to 8 charges in a row. 

Modifié par Supremocognito, 13 février 2013 - 11:14 .

[Kalas Magnus]

HolyAvenger wrote...

People really need to try it before they pass judgement.  

QFFT!

then again this is bsn

[dreman9999]

I did with my drell Vanguad...The power is sick. Though this is only for fast vanguards only.

[darkpassenger2342]

ive seen alot of :
well its good for vanguard A, yet not so much for vanguard B..
yet, ive seen every one of them mentioned as good,seems to me its just about preference and possibly a slight adjustment to playstyles, but obviously beneficial to all of them.

not directed at the poster above me, its an 8 page thread.

[HolyAvenger]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ive seen alot of :
well its good for vanguard A, yet not so much for vanguard B..
yet, ive seen every one of them mentioned as good,seems to me its just about preference and possibly a slight adjustment to playstyles, but obviously beneficial to all of them.

not directed at the poster above me, its an 8 page thread.

Agreed, depending on build and playstyle its definitely good for them all.

I personally prefer melee Kroguard, so will 100% be spec'ing this. Reegar Kroguards won't, of course.

[Ash J. Williams]

Nope, pointless buff, it would have to be 75% for me to take it

Modifié par Ash J. Williams, 13 février 2013 - 12:17 .

[darkpassenger2342]

so, if i dont pick the full barrier evo, does the 50% i recover mean 50% of my base shields or 50% of my modified shields??

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 13 février 2013 - 12:19 .

[dreman9999]

Heri wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

henzinovitost wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Who doesn't use 6A on a Kroguard already? It's now just even better.

I don't.

That means you're doing it wrong.

Why is that, exactly? A standard Kroguard build with a Reegar is all about melting the faces off of enemies. By taking full barrier restore, you get more DPS time before you have to worry about charging. Taking bonus power means that you're going to wind up charging more (otherwise why take the evo), which takes away from pewpew time.

Unless you're using some off-the-wall Kroguard build which uses BC as its primary damage source, I don't see how bonus power is in any way superior to full barrier restore when using a Reegar.

Or Kroguard with Weapon Synergy.

[Chealec]

ilaardi wrote...

I liked it before and now its even better, its nice to use other powers too right after BC.

That's sort of what I was thinking - I might experiment with putting Shockwave on my unused Human Vanguard and running it 6/6/6/4/4 ... or maybe the Phoenix; Charge > Smash might work (although the animation time is probably too long to make it viable).