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#226
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upinya slayin wrote...

unclemonster wrote...

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 if you noticed none of the posts i make or anyone else in thsi thread tell you how to do a glitch that can give an advantage. not only did you explain how to activate an unfair advanatge, you've also made your own thread about it and linked it here. You could have just posted that it isn't a random occurance and left it at that. The point of this thread is to list the known glitches/exploits and whether or not they are ok to use or not. Its not to give people advice on how to cheat. I appreciate you correcting the false info, but don't appreciate you giving people advice on how to exploit the game. With that said, lets stay on topic and not help people cheat for the rest of the thread. please and thank you


Not true at all. The how to hack circle trick was discussed as well as others.


the only one that was told on how to do it besides your psot on the wieght was the hack one. Which i agree shouldn't have been posted. but unless your doing a solo (which already put syou at a disadvanatge ebing down 3 players) there really isn't a big advanatge to it. The difference between 3 uploaders and 4 isn't huge and the enemies keep respawning until your done anyway. yes it wiull draw aggro but you can do that with 3 hackers anyway. its also situational as it really only helps with 1 possible objective you might get and its not a major help. having 100% extra cooldown the entire game is a much bigger advanatge and you can sue your abilites twice as often (assuming using 2 weight adding wepaon mods)

" if you noticed none of the posts i make or anyone else in thsi thread tell you how to do a glitch that can give an advantage"

So, the hack circle glitch discussion just doesn't count or what?

Not a big advantage?
You must be joking

A hack circle with 4 players will take 1 minute to complete whereas a hack circle with 3 players will take 2 minutes to complete (hardly insignificant, especially on platinum)
not only that, you have the advantage of leaving the circle and kiting the enemies away from teammates in the circle=HUGE ADVANTAGE

As far as the weight mod glitch is concerned, It mainly benefits snipers, shotties and pistols (mainly AR user)
it doesn't work at all on most guns I use/would use (PPR, Harrier, Typhoon, Reegar, Acolyte)
The only time I really use it is on my scorpion (extra 15% damage on a secondary weapon)
weight mod advantage for me=MINIMAL

Modifié par unclemonster, 13 février 2013 - 08:34 .


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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Everytime I play with BSNers they run with the pizza. Whether you regard running with the pizza as cheap is another Xbox vs. PC thing, IMO. Not a 'frowned on by BSN thing.'  


The only thing against PC-only "clever use of game mechanics", which consoles can't do, is skew the superiority of speedruns.
We've seen "the best xboxers can't match Team PC" comments, but if one side is shaving 30+ seconds per objective by such clever-use, then yes it skews time comparisons.  That is not often mentioned.
Apart from that we all suffer/benefit by the same stuff.  Solidarity brothers!

anyone PMed a dev to see if they wish to comment yet? ;)

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unclemonster wrote...

A hack circle with 4 players will take 1 minute to complete whereas a hack circle with 3 players will take 2 minutes 1:20 to complete (hardly insignificant, especially on platinum)


Fixed.

It is significant, but you are overstating it.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

unclemonster wrote...

A hack circle with 4 players will take 1 minute to complete whereas a hack circle with 3 players will take 2 minutes 1:20 to complete (hardly insignificant, especially on platinum)


Fixed.

It is significant, but you are overstating it.


Wow! So I was way wrong here. Not as significant as I believed it to be. D@mn threads containing wrong info! I always thought it was as I stated after reading it on another thread here.

Thank you for the correct info. It is much appreciated.

Modifié par unclemonster, 13 février 2013 - 08:32 .


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Stinja wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Everytime I play with BSNers they run with the pizza. Whether you regard running with the pizza as cheap is another Xbox vs. PC thing, IMO. Not a 'frowned on by BSN thing.'  


The only thing against PC-only "clever use of game mechanics", which consoles can't do, is skew the superiority of speedruns.
We've seen "the best xboxers can't match Team PC" comments, but if one side is shaving 30+ seconds per objective by such clever-use, then yes it skews time comparisons.  That is not often mentioned.
Apart from that we all suffer/benefit by the same stuff.  Solidarity brothers!

anyone PMed a dev to see if they wish to comment yet? ;)


Console can at least Asari dash with the pizza. Not quite running, but faster than walking.

Modifié par Asebstos, 13 février 2013 - 08:29 .


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double

Modifié par unclemonster, 13 février 2013 - 08:31 .


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What's so special about inc. ammo and warp? What, it detonates it and isn't supposed to, or something?

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Rolenka wrote...

What's so special about inc. ammo and warp? What, it detonates it and isn't supposed to, or something?


From my understanding it does more damage than its supposed to.

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Invader Nemesis wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

What's so special about inc. ammo and warp? What, it detonates it and isn't supposed to, or something?


From my understanding it does more damage than its supposed to.


IIRC, if you hit a target with Warp and then shoot it with Incendiary, the damage stacks infinitely. Or something like that...

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unclemonster wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

unclemonster wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...


 if you noticed none of the posts i make or anyone else in thsi thread tell you how to do a glitch that can give an advantage. not only did you explain how to activate an unfair advanatge, you've also made your own thread about it and linked it here. You could have just posted that it isn't a random occurance and left it at that. The point of this thread is to list the known glitches/exploits and whether or not they are ok to use or not. Its not to give people advice on how to cheat. I appreciate you correcting the false info, but don't appreciate you giving people advice on how to exploit the game. With that said, lets stay on topic and not help people cheat for the rest of the thread. please and thank you


Not true at all. The how to hack circle trick was discussed as well as others.


the only one that was told on how to do it besides your psot on the wieght was the hack one. Which i agree shouldn't have been posted. but unless your doing a solo (which already put syou at a disadvanatge ebing down 3 players) there really isn't a big advanatge to it. The difference between 3 uploaders and 4 isn't huge and the enemies keep respawning until your done anyway. yes it wiull draw aggro but you can do that with 3 hackers anyway. its also situational as it really only helps with 1 possible objective you might get and its not a major help. having 100% extra cooldown the entire game is a much bigger advanatge and you can sue your abilites twice as often (assuming using 2 weight adding wepaon mods)

" if you noticed none of the posts i make or anyone else in thsi thread tell you how to do a glitch that can give an advantage"

So, the hack circle glitch discussion just doesn't count or what?

Not a big advantage?
You must be joking

A hack circle with 4 players will take 1 minute to complete whereas a hack circle with 3 players will take 2 minutes to complete (hardly insignificant, especially on platinum)
not only that, you have the advantage of leaving the circle and kiting the enemies away from teammates in the circle=HUGE ADVANTAGE

As far as the weight mod glitch is concerned, It mainly benefits snipers, shotties and pistols (mainly AR user)
it doesn't work at all on most guns I use/would use (PPR, Harrier, Typhoon, Reegar, Acolyte)
The only time I really use it is on my scorpion (extra 15% damage on a secondary weapon)
weight mod advantage for me=MINIMAL






I see you edited the part where you called me a noob lol.:(

either way as stated below it make sthe hack 20 seconds shorter or you know you can just stay in the hack. its very situational at best since there is like a 12.5% chance of getting one 3 times a game. I'd say its cheap yes just the like pizza running is cheap, but in no way is it game breaking or a huge advnatge.

now take a gun like teh wriath atht gives 150% cooldown roughly which goes down to about 50% with the melee and HVB attachments tahts 100% difference. so my 4 second warp is now a 2 second warp allwoing me double BEs all game long. thats a big advantage to create a BE twice as fast

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oXTheReverendXo wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

What's so special about inc. ammo and warp? What, it detonates it and isn't supposed to, or something?


From my understanding it does more damage than its supposed to.


IIRC, if you hit a target with Warp and then shoot it with Incendiary, the damage stacks infinitely. Or something like that...


i don't remember the exact thread but yeah you can 1 shot a brute using it on a claymore (gold)

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Wish I had pc version, I would like to play where the enemies don't shoot back. Must be nice. Along with the faster load screens, running with pizza like you don't even have it.

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upinya slayin wrote...

oXTheReverendXo wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

What's so special about inc. ammo and warp? What, it detonates it and isn't supposed to, or something?


From my understanding it does more damage than its supposed to.


IIRC, if you hit a target with Warp and then shoot it with Incendiary, the damage stacks infinitely. Or something like that...


i don't remember the exact thread but yeah you can 1 shot a brute using it on a claymore (gold)


I think it works both ways because of the ridiculous damage stack of Incendiary ammo (now highlighted and updated by peddroelmz!) - You can apply inc. ammo with a relatively high DPS weapon and then hit with warp (the power) for an easier than usual fire explosion, or you can hit with warp (the power) and then apply inc. ammo for OHKs with certain set ups.

@ Slayin - You must have contacted the central warehouse in Siberia. They don't speak emoticon there. I also suspect them of stockpiling.

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upinya slayin wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

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I ordered my jkthunder in the mail weeks ago and still haven't recieved it? :huh:


Currently on backorder. Sorrez:bandit:


When i placed the order they said they have a few left in stock?:wub:
The it doesn't come so i call customer care:sick:
after my talk with them i was like :?
But they assured me it had been shipped :o
now i have ti wait more :crying:


I am your replacement order :kissing:

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Everytime I play with BSNers they run with the pizza. Whether you regard running with the pizza as cheap is another Xbox vs. PC thing, IMO. Not a 'frowned on by BSN thing.' If it is, it's certainly less so than exploiting the warp/incendiary glitch which you have classified as 'ok'.

Personally, whenever I run the pizza I drop it several times, go into cover, and get stabbed by a phantom while trying to pick it up again. In the end it probably only saves me 10 seconds when I can pull it off.



I would run with the pizza on Rio every time if I were on PC. Especially if it spawns back in the boxes.

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I have no sympathy towards console complaints about running the pizza or reload cancel being easier on PC making speed runs easier. Console will always win because the 30 FPS console frame cap has always screwed up the AI. Having played both, I guarantee that certain mobs like Marauders and Collector Captains are far more deadly on PC.

As far as the infinite PPR ammo, it just bypasses the cd if you overheat. I've reported it to BW repeatedly and it still isn't fixed. I don't bother with using it since it is very possibly a ban in waiting, ymmv.

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What do you call that "movement" bug? the one in which u dont really know where u are when ur sprinting?! Sometimes you're running, you think ur half way across the map when in fact, ur stuck running against a wall and only realise it 1-3 secs later?!
I've always wanted to know what causes this. Is it only on certain maps or with certain characters? Is there a way to avoid it?

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MJHawke wrote...


What do you call that "movement" bug? the one in which u dont really know where u are when ur sprinting?! Sometimes you're running, you think ur half way across the map when in fact, ur stuck running against a wall and only realise it 1-3 secs later?!
I've always wanted to know what causes this. Is it only on certain maps or with certain characters? Is there a way to avoid it?


sounds like lag to me?

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SilentBacon wrote...

Wish I had pc version, I would like to play where the enemies don't shoot back. Must be nice. Along with the faster load screens, running with pizza like you don't even have it.


enemies react faster and are more accurate on pc to offset the advantage we get in ease-of-control of the game

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Titus Thongger wrote...

SilentBacon wrote...

Wish I had pc version, I would like to play where the enemies don't shoot back. Must be nice. Along with the faster load screens, running with pizza like you don't even have it.


enemies react faster and are more accurate on pc to offset the advantage we get in ease-of-control of the game


that was proven false. one PC player tested it and basically said on a high end PC running at 60FPS enemies will be harder but you can lower the FPS to make them easier or on a crap PC they are easier period. what he couldn't test was whether 60FPS on PC was equal to 30FPS on xbox. it would depend on if BW made the game to run 60 FPS on PC then they would be equal. if not then 60FPS would be harder then xbox.

in other words depnding on your setup your silver could feel like a gold or bronze on xbox

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llandwynwyn wrote...

Is warp+ inc. ammo ok? I still use it a lot after learning. ignf I always love IA, and probably used it more than warp with all my adepts/sent. First time I solo'd gold was with a Tsel using it. I didn't know. :(

upinya slayin wrote...

Falling through the map to get to LZ - Bad


You know, I never saw anyone standing on a key location just for it to happen.


I did earlier today.

PUGs used the Hydra glitch so that another guy and I could do all the work while they sat up top not doing anything. On extraction, they continued to stay there until there were about three seconds left, then they intentionally fell off the map to join us at the LZ.

Couple of pricks.

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Can we get banned for the server disconnect glitch or the store ate my credits glitch?
There's also the I threw grenades but they disappeared into air glich is that bannable?
There's also the invsible banshee glitch.
Gee I'm so gonna get banned for all these glitches I've had.

Modifié par Eelectrica, 14 février 2013 - 07:04 .


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upinya slayin wrote...


I see you edited the part where you called me a noob lol.:(




That was just a joke! I have been lurking here a long time and I KNOW you are not a noob. Anyhow, nice thread and nice discussion. I apologize for my post that linked the mods.:)

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Is it bannable to use map glitches, like on that one map where you can dodge to the edge and then run up into the back edge of it and shoot from safety with no mobs getting close enough to melee?

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unclemonster wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...


I see you edited the part where you called me a noob lol.:(




That was just a joke! I have been lurking here a long time and I KNOW you are not a noob. Anyhow, nice thread and nice discussion. I apologize for my post that linked the mods.:)


lol its all good. i was just giving you s**t. no offense taken :P
and its all good. there were alot more glitches then even i was aware of appently.