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[llandwynwyn]

@The Sir Tendeth I doubt they would.

Modifié par llandwynwyn, 13 février 2013 - 01:02 .

[MIA115]

Striker + Explosive ammo? What is this?

[The Sir Tendeth]

llandwynwyn wrote...

@The Sir Tendeth I doubt they would.

agreed. Lets have it up there, hopefully with an ok, and leave it at that.

[oXTheReverendXo]

The Sir Tendeth wrote...

oXTheReverendXo wrote...

The Sir Tendeth wrote...

Dodge/rolling before revive animation completes. Ok

and because it was a briefly mentioned as an "exploit" in another thread. Nukeing a spawn with or without a missile. Particularly while forcing them using the player view mechanic.

One guy called it an exploit and he was the only one in that thread who thought so. Really, it's just spawn control. You could say that it exploits the spawn mechanics, yes, but deeming something "an exploit" in the context of this game/these forums has more to do with exploiting glitches.

Had great post about this, but I don't want to over argue it, and have even the slightest risk of having Bioware come down against it. 

Considering Bryan Johnson is an admitted speedrunner, and rumored/likely to have been the first, I really doubt they're going to "come down against it." I never even should have used the word "exploit" in my reply, as I think I just added to your confusion.

It's really just using a complex strategy. You said some people think it's bannable, but I've never heard that from anyone. Even the guy who called it an "exploit" didn't think it should be banned. He just expressed that he hoped spawn mechanics would be different in the next game.

As far as nuking spawns goes (whether or not you've forced them), using a missile on a spawn is a useful tactic for bringing down the wave budget, but it's not any mechanically different than nuking 5-8 enemies that have overrun a hack.

When have you heard anyone say they thought either one of these things were/should be bannable? If they knew tactics like these (because tactics is what these are, not glitches) were not bannable, what arguments did they offer that they should be?

(No hostility intended, btw. Just friendly, open debate ).

Modifié par oXTheReverendXo, 13 février 2013 - 02:03 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

It's well known that the "Clever Use of Game Mechanics" items are the ones Bryan Johnson likes to make use of in his spare time. They're only designated as cheats if he has no interest in using them when he plays.

[millahnna]

Regarding the hack circle glitch. I a few more times to activate the glitch without being the one who activates the hack (for science). All of my attempts on Giant were successful regardless of hack location. I failed to do it on London and Dagger (I've done it successfully on dagger in the past, I think my timing was off). So I'm just throwing out there the possibility that it's map dependent (i.e. perhaps the reason people think you have to be the one to activate the hack to activate the glitch is because on certain maps you do). That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me but I'll let bigger nerds than me chew on it.

What I haven't tested is if two people can hit the glitch at the same time (so that you could have 2 people outside the hack circle but registering as being inside of it). In theory I don't see why not. But again, not particularly comfortable using this glitch unless I'm trying to solo (because I suck at soloing). It feels a little cheaty to me.

[The Sir Tendeth]

@oXTheReverendXo

I have been accused of cheating, for rocketing spawns...  

Spawn control nukeing, requires compliant teammates to do, so no direct complaints are likely.

but bringing up any other points that I considered posting is not something that I want to do. what would be the benefit? 

I think it works to classify it as exploiting, or making clever use of game of game mechnics. 

And I think friendly debates are great so no worries 

Modifié par The Sir Tendeth, 13 février 2013 - 02:59 .

[klokked]

What did I hear about a Blade Armor/Explosive Ammo glitch?

[Rokayt]

We forgot something: HATESURFING.

[Titus Thongger]

I am a horrible, horrible abuser of the warp incendiary ammo mechanic.

oh well.

[Rokayt]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's well known that the "Clever Use of Game Mechanics" items are the ones Bryan Johnson likes to make use of in his spare time. They're only designated as cheats if he has no interest in using them when he plays.

Me and him were both striker infiltrators in that game where I showed him said glitch........


Maybe this has more truth then we think.

[Asebstos]

There's a glitch with the Striker and Explosive Ammo? What is it?

[Rokayt]

Asebstos wrote...

There's a glitch with the Striker and Explosive Ammo? What is it?

You explode.
Repeatedly.

[udinbak4]

Unknown BW stance
Infinite PPR ammo glitch - I haven't seen a response on this

Infinite PPR amo glitch?

[GunWraith]

How is pizza running frowned upon? If the forumites are complaining about that, they are idiots.

[peddroelm]

I suspect the striker + explosive ammo "bug" happens even without explsosive ammo (as in has nothing to do with it)

Modifié par peddroelmz, 13 février 2013 - 06:12 .

[Rokayt]

peddroelmz wrote...

I suspect the striker + explosive ammo "bug" happens even without explsosive ammo (as in has nothing to do with it)

Yeah, Peoples recollection of it sounds like using the striker off host.

Not an ammo bug :innocent:

[peddroelm]

Rokayt wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

I suspect the striker + explosive ammo "bug" happens even without explsosive ammo (as in has nothing to do with it)

Yeah, Peoples recollection of it sounds like using the striker off host.

Not an ammo bug :innocent:

off host ?  Start a new game without explosive ammo - face the nearest wall .. Aim head high .. Hold fire button and proceed to be blinded by the striker explosions ?

[Rokayt]

peddroelmz wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

I suspect the striker + explosive ammo "bug" happens even without explsosive ammo (as in has nothing to do with it)

Yeah, Peoples recollection of it sounds like using the striker off host.

Not an ammo bug :innocent:

off host ?  Start a new game without explosive ammo - face the nearest wall .. Aim head high .. Hold fire button and proceed to be blinded by the striker explosions ?

I normally face the floor.

Why would you shoot a wall.

[peddroelm]

Rokayt wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

I suspect the striker + explosive ammo "bug" happens even without explsosive ammo (as in has nothing to do with it)

Yeah, Peoples recollection of it sounds like using the striker off host.

Not an ammo bug :innocent:

off host ?  Start a new game without explosive ammo - face the nearest wall .. Aim head high .. Hold fire button and proceed to be blinded by the striker explosions ?

I normally face the floor.

Why would you shoot a wall.

upinya slayin wrote...

 basically if you fire too close to your body the explosions happen immeidatly and right on your face and you can't see a dam thing lol

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

warp + Inc ammo ???
Inf Grenades + Inc ammo ???
Striker + Explosive round glitch ???
Paladin FE glitch ???

[SavagelyEpic]

Consumable stacking? What?

[Stinja]

Any word on making your framerate <30 FPS (and/or available computer resources) to reduce AI accuracy and response?

http://social.biowar.../index/15711621

[SavagelyEpic]

The Sir Tendeth wrote...
[paraphrased] nuking spawns is an exploit

Are you seriously suggesting that killing enemies is an exploit and an offense?

What the hell are we supposed to do, then? Shake hands with the Praetorian?

[Mindfane]

millahnna wrote...

Regarding the hack circle glitch. I a few more times to activate the glitch without being the one who activates the hack (for science). All of my attempts on Giant were successful regardless of hack location. I failed to do it on London and Dagger (I've done it successfully on dagger in the past, I think my timing was off). So I'm just throwing out there the possibility that it's map dependent (i.e. perhaps the reason people think you have to be the one to activate the hack to activate the glitch is because on certain maps you do). That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me but I'll let bigger nerds than me chew on it.

What I haven't tested is if two people can hit the glitch at the same time (so that you could have 2 people outside the hack circle but registering as being inside of it). In theory I don't see why not. But again, not particularly comfortable using this glitch unless I'm trying to solo (because I suck at soloing). It feels a little cheaty to me.

^QFT

I don't know if this glitch is map specific. But any player can activate this glitch. You MUST be within the hack circle while the hack is activated(could be activated by anyone). Then you must exit the circle very quickly. It will still count you as within the circle. This is tricky if you are not hosting and there is lag.