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[Zorinho20_CRO]

When I played Platinum solo,I think 1 Phantom survived at least 4-5 Claymore shots:(

[Saradas85]

yes but there's one they fear

[Dracian]

^

You just saved my day.

Thanks.

Modifié par Dracian, 13 février 2013 - 01:35 .

[Theghostof_timmy]

I personally like it when my SI cloaks, EDs, then gets 3 black widow headshots, and the phantom loses 3 bars of barrier. Damn it, hosting cerberus is terrible.

Edit: Also, rapist adept FTW. Well done sir.

Modifié par herculeswill22, 13 février 2013 - 01:47 .

[GallowsPole]

So I was playing around earlier and, I swear, there is no difference in Phantoms, at least on xbox. I was soloing Gold with a level 13 AJ, Warp Ammo I and the Commando package, nothing else. Reave, which don't always work thanks to her bubble, but absolutely no problems with a Paladin X, AP mod and EB. Now, say what you want about the AP mod, but I rather have penetration than outright damage. Take the HVB and EB with and without an AP mod, and kill a Guardian without a headshot. It just goes right through their shield. Ill do more damage shooting through the glass on Glacier too, as an example, to mooks hiding up in the upper level by the LZ.

So, long story short, or the lame tl;dr so I can fit in, I see no difference on or off host.

[HolyAvenger]

herculeswill22 wrote...

I personally like it when my SI cloaks, EDs, then gets 3 black widow headshots, and the phantom loses 3 bars of barrier. Damn it, hosting cerberus is terrible.

Edit: Also, rapist adept FTW. Well done sir.

Trolololol Black Widow headshots wut?

[lazysundae]

GallowsPole wrote...

So I was playing around earlier and, I swear, there is no difference in Phantoms, at least on xbox. I was soloing Gold with a level 13 AJ, Warp Ammo I and the Commando package, nothing else. Reave, which don't always work thanks to her bubble, but absolutely no problems with a Paladin X, AP mod and EB. Now, say what you want about the AP mod, but I rather have penetration than outright damage. Take the HVB and EB with and without an AP mod, and kill a Guardian without a headshot. It just goes right through their shield. Ill do more damage shooting through the glass on Glacier too, as an example, to mooks hiding up in the upper level by the LZ.

So, long story short, or the lame tl;dr so I can fit in, I see no difference on or off host.

I almost always host, and last night I was spectating as my friend was taking down the last Phantom who was just STANDING there and taking her punishment, with very little movement. 

Whereas I would have gotten cartwheel/run/cartwheel/cartwheel/invisi/cartwheel/omfg where'd she go/melee/stabbed.

Phantoms act very noticeably different on host.

[GallowsPole]

I don't disagree that there is some kind of issue as there a lot of complaints about it. Its kinda funky though as I never had an issue with them at all. What DOES happen to me though, is usually on a wave or two, there is always left a 'indestructible' unit that I cant kill until later on. Ive had Geth Hunters I couldn't kill freaking tagging me with their GPS. Oi.

[SavagelyEpic]

Saradas85 wrote...

yes but there's one they fear

In their tongue he is...

[Dunvi]

Dracian wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Dracian wrote...

Annomander wrote...

It's high time that the phantom's DR was removed on host, as its blatantly imbalanced that host's can waste 180 typhoon bullets on phantoms, yet still not kill her even with 50% of the shots being headshots when she's in mid air, and yet that same host can take a projectile weapon that fires slow, predictable shots and the phantom doesn't dodge it.

Agreed. How many times have I raged seeing my Claymore doing almost nothing to them, even when firing at point-blank range a headshot !

Only way on-host is Stasis, wait three seconds, then press the barrel in her face and say goodbye.
Other than that, Phantoms are in no reasonable way defeatable by host except for rocket.

Shadow Strike, Scorpion, GPS, Dark Channel, any vanguard, Acolyte...anything that staggers her removes DR.


Really screws over hard-hitting weapons like Claymores and Javelins though.  

Well, personnally, I don't have any trouble with Javelin... Since I only use it on my GI with phasic rounds : Proxy Mine -> Hand of denial -> Headshot kthxbai.

But Claymore... I almost have to flee Phantoms we use mine and when I host (80% of the time...)

I can do proxy > headshot, and I do do proxy > headshot a lot. More often I do "wait for her to take cover" > headshot through a wall. But sometimes they like charging at me in packs. And sometimes I just need to get her out of my face. Off host? quickscope > headshot. On host? quickscope > WTFOMGBBQRRAAAAAAAGE. It doesn't help that, if she's not in cover, I find the easiest time to hit her is right after a flip.

[Blind2Society]

I hate just about everything about phantoms. I think a good way to balance them is to add the DR off-host and remove that bull**** palm cannon entirely.

[IllusiveManJr]

Blind2Society wrote...

I hate just about everything about phantoms. I think a good way to balance them is to add the DR off-host and remove that bull**** palm cannon entirely.

Not sure how I feel about this, I wish the Phantoms and Nemesis had their attacks switched around. Then she'd be a force to be reckoned with (the Nemesis, not the lolspaceninja).

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Saradas85 wrote...

yes but there's one they fear

wutisthisijustdon't.........

:D:D

[Arppis]

saints 944 wrote...

Crusader75 wrote...

I've been reading about this Phantom DR issue... when does it occur specifically? Only during cartwheeling and power blocking?

When they are JUST MOVING.

No wonder they take more bullets and powers than Atlas does.

[Blind2Society]

Arppis wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Crusader75 wrote...

I've been reading about this Phantom DR issue... when does it occur specifically? Only during cartwheeling and power blocking?

When they are JUST MOVING.

No wonder they take more bullets and powers than Atlas does.

They also get it when using the bubble (not moving at all).

[crashsuit]

Here's a 'fun' question:

Which is worse, the current Cerberus with Dragoons, or the old Cerberus with extra Phantoms?

[K_O_513]

Here's a 'fun' question:

Which is worse, the current Cerberus with Dragoons, or the old Cerberus with extra Phantoms?

Old / New Cerberus with invisible turrets

[TheNightSlasher]

Cerberus is sh*t, in any shape or form.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Do they have it in SP? Would it figure that however it works in SP is how it's supposed to work for both hosts and non-hosts in MP?

 

I think this is pretty much it.

 

And, from what I remember, they don't receive the DR in SP except for the brief moment that they're flipping, and it's not nearly as much DR. It's been 2 years since I played SP, though, so my brain is not a reliable source.

[waltervolpatto]

(necromanced!)

 

The new one... it is sh1t anyway...

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Here's a 'fun' question:

Which is worse, the current Cerberus with Dragoons, or the old Cerberus with extra Phantoms?

 

The old threads that shoulda been left dead are worse than either.

[Quarian Master Race]

Only thing phantoms are supposed to get is Claymoar, applied directly to the forehead. Cheating human bosh'tets

[DaemionMoadrin]

I make sure that each kit has a power or weapon that can deal with unexpected Phantoms. Scorpion is quite fun for that.

[crashsuit]

The old threads that shoulda been left dead are worse than either.

I googled Phantom DR for something I was posting on reddit and this thread was the top result.

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[Excella Gionne]

I think Phantoms have put their booty on every races crotch(besides hanar 'cause the possibilities are endless with tentacles). Phantoms are the "real" sluts of the galaxy.