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 I decided to make this thread to talk about the idea of non-party S/S *exclusive* romance options. I feel it would work by giving players a more personal aspect to the base instead of having the party member romance around all the time, someone waiting at home.

Feel free to ad your reasons why you think the Idea would or would not work.

Modifié par draken-heart, 13 février 2013 - 08:42 .


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the heck is "S?"

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EntropicAngel wrote...

the heck is "S?"

Same (Same Sex)

Or Superhuman
Edit:
I'm sure some would argue they are the same ^^

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 13 février 2013 - 08:01 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

the heck is "S?"


unless I put S alone in the OP, S/S is Same Sex, as in Same Sex romance options.

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I see.


Is there a reason there are three different threads (active on this front page) on this topic?

Modifié par EntropicAngel, 13 février 2013 - 08:07 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

I see.


Is there a reason there are three different threads (active on this front page) on this topic?

 
one is for M/M (Male on Male) Romance options, specifically. Another is for F/F (Female on Female) Romances Specifically. This thread is to discuss the Idea of S/S Exclusive NPC romance options.

Modifié par draken-heart, 13 février 2013 - 08:10 .


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I'm heartily confused. Are you saying that male warriors and female mages cannot be bisexual, that everyone bisexual is a rogue? Or possibly a male mage/female warrior? If so, why were you concerned about Anders? And regarding Merrill, she never had any previous exploration of her sexuality at all, so how could that possibly be construed as ruination?

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Why can't the NPC be straight?

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Xilizhra wrote...

I'm heartily confused. Are you saying that male warriors and female mages cannot be bisexual, that everyone bisexual is a rogue? Or possibly a male mage/female warrior? If so, why were you concerned about Anders? And regarding Merrill, she never had any previous exploration of her sexuality at all, so how could that possibly be construed as ruination?


The idea is actually more that it was catering to the people who wanted a female mage for female hero and male warrior got them and the other options. It was ruining the character by catering to the people who wanted it. Merrill could have been a great character without the Romance being involved.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.


And, by the end of DA ]|[, mages.

Bisexual mages. Everyone.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.


And, by the end of DA ]|[, mages.

Bisexual mages. Everyone.


ENCHANTMENT!

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draken-heart wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm heartily confused. Are you saying that male warriors and female mages cannot be bisexual, that everyone bisexual is a rogue? Or possibly a male mage/female warrior? If so, why were you concerned about Anders? And regarding Merrill, she never had any previous exploration of her sexuality at all, so how could that possibly be construed as ruination?


The idea is actually more that it was catering to the people who wanted a female mage for female hero and male warrior got them and the other options. It was ruining the character by catering to the people who wanted it. Merrill could have been a great character without the Romance being involved.

What the living hell are you even talking about? Why did you mention Anders when Fenris was the male warrior? How did Merrill's romance damage her character? Did you want her to be only straight, or not romanceable at all, and how would either make the slightest bit of difference?

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

And, by the end of DA ]|[, mages.

Bisexual mages. Everyone.

Sounds normal to me. . . :lol:

Modifié par SgtElias, 13 février 2013 - 08:29 .


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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.

Varric was Biancasexual though.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.


And, by the end of DA ]|[, mages.

Bisexual mages. Everyone.


ENCHANTMENT!


can we pleas get to the topic of the thread? What do you all think about having S/S Exclusive Romances that happen to be on your side but not on the field of battle with you (Non-playable Characters)

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draken-heart wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Why can't the NPC be straight?


No one in Thedas is straight these days. Everyone is bisexual. The Maker has deemed it so.


And, by the end of DA ]|[, mages.

Bisexual mages. Everyone.


ENCHANTMENT!


can we pleas get to the topic of the thread? What do you all think about having S/S Exclusive Romances that happen to be on your side but not on the field of battle with you (Non-playable Characters)


Just have a brothel full of jiggalos or something.

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Unless it makes sense and not to exclude s/s characters as part of the entourage to make people feel more comfortable.

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I fail to see why bisexuality cheapened Merrill or Anders' characters. What, people can't like both sexes anymore? They don't have to be straight or gay exclusively.

I also think that keeping the S/S options as NPCs might cause some people to think that Bioware doesn't want the S/S options to be in parties, since they did that with ME3, but I am welcome to more exclusively gay characters.

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Xilizhra wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm heartily confused. Are you saying that male warriors and female mages cannot be bisexual, that everyone bisexual is a rogue? Or possibly a male mage/female warrior? If so, why were you concerned about Anders? And regarding Merrill, she never had any previous exploration of her sexuality at all, so how could that possibly be construed as ruination?


The idea is actually more that it was catering to the people who wanted a female mage for female hero and male warrior got them and the other options. It was ruining the character by catering to the people who wanted it. Merrill could have been a great character without the Romance being involved.

What the living hell are you even talking about? Why did you mention Anders when Fenris was the male warrior? How did Merrill's romance damage her character? Did you want her to be only straight, or not romanceable at all, and how would either make the slightest bit of difference?


I said that Merrill could have been a great character (as in her development could have been better) IF they did not cater to those who wanted a female mage. Do not get me wrong, Merrill was a great romance, but the fact that the developers catered to those people who wanted a female mage made it so that part of the resources that could have been used to better her character development was used to give her the bi/PC-sexual romance. and I mentioned Anders because he WAS ruined by being set as a bi option.

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I think everyone being bi is better than relegating S/S romances to second class status.

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draken-heart wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm heartily confused. Are you saying that male warriors and female mages cannot be bisexual, that everyone bisexual is a rogue? Or possibly a male mage/female warrior? If so, why were you concerned about Anders? And regarding Merrill, she never had any previous exploration of her sexuality at all, so how could that possibly be construed as ruination?


The idea is actually more that it was catering to the people who wanted a female mage for female hero and male warrior got them and the other options. It was ruining the character by catering to the people who wanted it. Merrill could have been a great character without the Romance being involved.

What the living hell are you even talking about? Why did you mention Anders when Fenris was the male warrior? How did Merrill's romance damage her character? Did you want her to be only straight, or not romanceable at all, and how would either make the slightest bit of difference?


I said that Merrill could have been a great character (as in her development could have been better) IF they did not cater to those who wanted a female mage. Do not get me wrong, Merrill was a great romance, but the fact that the developers catered to those people who wanted a female mage made it so that part of the resources that could have been used to better her character development was used to give her the bi/PC-sexual romance. and I mentioned Anders because he WAS ruined by being set as a bi option.

So it's not catering to those want a straight romance with Merrill? Anders wouldn't pout or blow up the chantry if he were straight?

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Wulfram wrote...

I think everyone being bi is better than relegating S/S romances to second class status.


made no sense for any of the characters except Isabela. And you could add them to the list but not add them as party member, but meake them just as important to the story.

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draken-heart wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I think everyone being bi is better than relegating S/S romances to second class status.


made no sense for any of the characters except Isabela. And you could add them to the list but not add them as party member, but meake them just as important to the story.

Why would the NPC need to be gay again? Could the NPC be straight and the companions be gay to have more diverse sexual orientation?

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draken-heart wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I think everyone being bi is better than relegating S/S romances to second class status.


made no sense for any of the characters except Isabela. And you could add them to the list but not add them as party member, but meake them just as important to the story.


Why does someone's sexuality have to "make sense" with their personality?