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[draken-heart]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I think everyone being bi is better than relegating S/S romances to second class status.

made no sense for any of the characters except Isabela. And you could add them to the list but not add them as party member, but meake them just as important to the story.

Why would the NPC need to be gay again? Could the NPC be straight and the companions be gay to have more diverse sexual orientation?

or all romances be NPC? that would hurt all of you.

[Knight of Dane]

draken-heart wrote...
I said that Merrill could have been a great character (as in her development could have been better) IF they did not cater to those who wanted a female mage. Do not get me wrong, Merrill was a great romance, but the fact that the developers catered to those people who wanted a female mage made it so that part of the resources that could have been used to better her character development was used to give her the bi/PC-sexual romance. and I mentioned Anders because he WAS ruined by being set as a bi option.

Hey, excuse me for saying this but where tf did you exactly get that " the fact that the developers catered to those people who wanted a female mage" for Merrill exactly?
Who has ever told you that?

And what resources? I doubt the six lines where Merrill exclusively mentions Hawke's sex wasn't very expensive.

Edit:
And for that matter, why should she be straight at all? They would have saved just as many "resources" by making her a flat out lesbian.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 13 février 2013 - 08:37 .

[SgtElias]

draken-heart wrote...

made no sense for any of the characters except Isabela.

I disagree. Just because it wasn't brought up in Origins didn't mean it completely re-wrote their characters.

draken-heart wrote...
or all romances be NPC? that would hurt all of you.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

I'd prefer that to making only the same-sex romance options NPCs. And least one way or the other, it'd be fair.

Modifié par SgtElias, 13 février 2013 - 08:37 .

[Fast Jimmy]

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

[Knight of Dane]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

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[Fast Jimmy]

draken-heart wrote...
or all romances be NPC? that would hurt all of you.

That would hurt me not at all. 


Standing next to someone I just had sex and may have then cheated on, a la, DA:O, while they hold a very lethal weapon is not my idea of playing it smart.

If all romances were with NPCs (or, Maker forbid, there were NO romances), I wouldn't lose the slightest bit of sleep.

[draken-heart]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

Cortez was the main reason I decided to bring this thread into being. I saw his romance online and there was more of a friendship aspect to it. I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

[Most Definitely Sane]

draken-heart wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

Cortez was the main reason I decided to bring this thread into being. I saw his romance online and there was more of a friendship aspect to it. I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

No, everyone's asking why Merrill, Anders, and from implication Fenris, are ruined by their bisexuality.

[draken-heart]

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

Cortez was the main reason I decided to bring this thread into being. I saw his romance online and there was more of a friendship aspect to it. I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

No, everyone's asking why Merrill, Anders, and from implication Fenris, are ruined by their bisexuality.

forget the OP for a second. I edited op and added the "Makes base feel like home giving someone who stays there and waits for you" Explanation.

Modifié par draken-heart, 13 février 2013 - 08:43 .

[RetroActiv]

I would be perfectly okay with all s/s options being npc only or not included at all.

[SgtElias]

draken-heart wrote...

I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

(Emphasis mine)

As I'm included in "everyone" I'll say this: I never said I required romances to be companions. I said that I didn't want to move only same-sex romances from companion to NPC status.

[Xilizhra]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

draken-heart wrote...
or all romances be NPC? that would hurt all of you.

That would hurt me not at all. 


Standing next to someone I just had sex and may have then cheated on, a la, DA:O, while they hold a very lethal weapon is not my idea of playing it smart.

If all romances were with NPCs (or, Maker forbid, there were NO romances), I wouldn't lose the slightest bit of sleep.

Yes, well, that's you. Personally, I very much like DA2's solution and hope they continue it. ME3 had to do something quick and dirty because the development team was too cowardly to implement non-Liara bisexuality earlier on.

I would be perfectly okay with all s/s options being npc only or not included at all.

But would you be okay with all heterosexual options being NPC-only or nonexistent, while all party romances were homosexual?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 13 février 2013 - 08:47 .

[Most Definitely Sane]

draken-heart wrote...

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

Cortez was the main reason I decided to bring this thread into being. I saw his romance online and there was more of a friendship aspect to it. I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

No, everyone's asking why Merrill, Anders, and from implication Fenris, are ruined by their bisexuality.

forget the OP for a second. I edited op and added the "Makes base feel like home giving someone who stays there and waits for you" Explanation.

Okay, that sounds a little better, I guess, but it doesn't change your statement that these characters are ruined.

I am all for gay characters being added, party or not. But if they are not in the party, I do think that some people might suspect that Bioware does not want gay people to be the more noticed characters than the straight/bi characters because of them doing this with ME3. I am hoping to get a gay character in the party, and if possible a gay NPC.

I still want to hear why Merrill, Anders, and Fenris are destroyed and catered to people.

[Battlebloodmage]

RetroActiv wrote...

I would be perfectly okay with all s/s options being npc only or not included at all.

This is why I don't like S/S only NPC.

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 13 février 2013 - 09:09 .

[draken-heart]

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread exists because Samantha Traynor and Steve Cortez. For good, bad or indifferent.


Just pointing that out to anyone who hasn't picked up on it.

Cortez was the main reason I decided to bring this thread into being. I saw his romance online and there was more of a friendship aspect to it. I thought the Idea of an NPC that you could build a bond of friendship that turns into a romantic relationship would be good for DA, but I see everyone requires a Romance to be with a party member.

No, everyone's asking why Merrill, Anders, and from implication Fenris, are ruined by their bisexuality.

forget the OP for a second. I edited op and added the "Makes base feel like home giving someone who stays there and waits for you" Explanation.

Okay, that sounds a little better, I guess, but it doesn't change your statement that these characters are ruined.

I am all for gay characters being added, party or not. But if they are not in the party, I do think that some people might suspect that Bioware does not want gay people to be the more noticed characters than the straight/bi characters because of them doing this with ME3. I am hoping to get a gay character in the party, and if possible a gay NPC.

I still want to hear why Merrill, Anders, and Fenris are destroyed and catered to people.

just forget about that.

[Knight of Dane]

I mainly see the companions as romance material because they are the people an adventurer spend the most time with.

Traynor and Cortez works in ME3 because they live on the same ship as Shep.
Dragon Age 2 could have worked since Hawke is always in Kirkwall.

DA:I might work but it depends on the time.

I just thin k it's more natural to develop feelings for the people you travel with unless you have a "love at first sight" situation with one of the local lasses/laddies.

[draken-heart]

you know, if you all do not like the idea of the Developers ADDING two exclusively homosexual NPC romance options, just say you do not.

[Fast Jimmy]

Knight of Dane wrote...

I mainly see the companions as romance material because they are the people an adventurer spend the most time with.

Traynor and Cortez works in ME3 because they live on the same ship as Shep.
Dragon Age 2 could have worked since Hawke is always in Kirkwall.

DA:I might work but it depends on the time.

I just thin k it's more natural to develop feelings for the people you travel with unless you have a "love at first sight" situation with one of the local lasses/laddies.

So what you're saying is... S/S relationship with both Sandal and Bodahn for DA3?

[RetroActiv]

Xilizhra wrote...


But would you be okay with all heterosexual options being NPC-only or nonexistent, while all party romances were homosexual?

Yes i would be perfectly okay with all heterosexual options being NPC only or nonexistent. Unless there was a good  reason given in the story to explain why the PC specifically recuits homosexuals then I don't see how that would make any sense.

Modifié par RetroActiv, 13 février 2013 - 08:58 .

[Sutekh]

draken-heart wrote...

you know, if you all do not like the idea of the Developers ADDING two exclusively homosexual NPC romance options, just say you do not.

That's not the point, though. Why would they have to be NPCs while the straight ones are companions? Why not the other way around?

ETA:

RetroActiv wrote...

Yes i would be perfectly okay with all heterosexual options being NPC only or nonexistent. Unless there was a good  reason given in the story to explain why the PC specifically recuits homosexuals then I don't see how that would make any sense. 

Because the PC specifically recruiting heterosexual people would make more sense?

Modifié par Sutekh, 13 février 2013 - 09:00 .

[Knight of Dane]

Sure, if the PC lives with them again go right ahead

For that matter, I could have seen Hawke have a forbitten romance with Orana, if she just didn't look like someone who'd had all the water in her body sucked out.

[Knight of Dane]

RetroActiv wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...


But would you be okay with all heterosexual options being NPC-only or nonexistent, while all party romances were homosexual?

Yes i would be perfectly okay with all heterosexual options being NPC only or nonexistent. Unless there was a good  reason given in the story to explain why the PC specifically recuits homosexuals then I don't see how that would make any sense.

Everyone knows Homosexual people are immune to magic, perfect for an inqusition. 

[draken-heart]

Tell me what you think of these two ideas.

Guard captain: The captain of the guard at the Inquisitor's keep. S/he could 1) Provide information on Mage/Templar war sites and 2) Could even help out, as an NPC ally. S/he fights and you do not have to carry her/him with you to the keep or back.

Diplomat: A Diplomat that give you details on what the other nations want from you before that support you in the Mage/Templar war.

ideas would be appreciated.

[Battlebloodmage]

Regardless of their roles, the NPC could be S/S or straight, keeping the gays as NPC seem to intentionally discriminatory. Why are you so adamant in making NPCs as gay only anyway?