Harle Cerulean wrote...
I don't care for Anders, but I had the option to go for Fenris. If one of those two was straight, one of us would have been unhappy at having no choice except the one we don't like. You didn't like Merrill (as a romance), so you went for Isabela. Fair!
If only I could have been dwarf-sexual!
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Everyone is demonically mind controlled in the Fade. Also, Marethari didn't take a bullet; she took an unloaded gun, loaded it, then shot herself.Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Blood magic never harms her or anyone else in the slightest. The entire ending fiasco is Marethari's fault, spurred on by Audacity. Marethari is completely full of **** throughout the entire game.Spot on. Plus she also gets countless warnings about blood magic being bad. She even fights a few hundred abominations and whatsnot throughout the game. Still she ignores it up untill her fingers gets badly burned. Thats what kids do. Thinking bad things won`t happen to them.
Actually she pretty much took a bullet for Merrill. Merrill also screws up in that fade mission, I belive. She is extremely succeptible to possession and whatsnot.
Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
Modifié par jillabender, 16 février 2013 - 05:33 .
Rawgrim wrote...
Harle Cerulean wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
sarakirrer wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Um, all elves look like that? Marethari has the exact same body type. So either all elves are 12, or you're just being incredibly silly. Hell, you don't even need in-game information, just enough knowledge of Bioware that they wouldn't put someone in who was only twelve.
I also thought Merrill was very childlike. While you're correct that all elves do have that body type, her body type combined with her general naivete about the world and the things in it made her seem very young.
Exactly. It was abit off-putting.
While it may have been offputting, you're missing the point. You had a choice, and you chose Isabela because Merrill wasn't to your taste, despite being female. Your tastes said she seemed too young to be appealing.
Now imagine Isabela wasn't romanceable by your male Hawke, only Merrill was. Then you have no choice if you want to play a het romance with your male Hawke. This is the situation people who wanted to play a gay romance with their male Warden were faced with in DA:O if they didn't like Zevran. Meanwhile, people who wanted to play a het romance with a male Warden, if they didn't care for Morrigan's attitude, could romance Leliana. And if they didn't like Leliana's devoutness, they could romance Morrigan.
DA2's system is more fair, because there are two options if you want to play straight, and two if you want to play gay. Plaintiff doesn't like Fenris (I believe - I could be wronf), but he had the option to go for Anders. I don't care for Anders, but I had the option to go for Fenris. If one of those two was straight, one of us would have been unhappy at having no choice except the one we don't like. You didn't like Merrill (as a romance), so you went for Isabela. Fair!
Ohh i have played plenty games where straight ones also only get 1 choice. Been there done that. Sometimes the romance has even been forced.
sarakirrer wrote...
Harle Cerulean wrote...
I don't care for Anders, but I had the option to go for Fenris. If one of those two was straight, one of us would have been unhappy at having no choice except the one we don't like. You didn't like Merrill (as a romance), so you went for Isabela. Fair!
And there's me, with the Hetero-Hawke that didn't like either Anders or Fenris.
(Disclaimer: THIS IS A JOKE.)
It depends on who you take. Aveline will be tempted by the Desire Demon and turn against you, but only if Isabela is not present. Similarly, Fenris, Merrill and Varric will all be tempted by the pride demon, but I forget what the order of priority is. I think it goes Merrill > Fenris >Varric.Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Everyone is demonically mind controlled in the Fade. Also, Marethari didn't take a bullet; she took an unloaded gun, loaded it, then shot herself.Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Blood magic never harms her or anyone else in the slightest. The entire ending fiasco is Marethari's fault, spurred on by Audacity. Marethari is completely full of **** throughout the entire game.Spot on. Plus she also gets countless warnings about blood magic being bad. She even fights a few hundred abominations and whatsnot throughout the game. Still she ignores it up untill her fingers gets badly burned. Thats what kids do. Thinking bad things won`t happen to them.
Actually she pretty much took a bullet for Merrill. Merrill also screws up in that fade mission, I belive. She is extremely succeptible to possession and whatsnot.
Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
Rawgrim wrote...
sarakirrer wrote...
Harle Cerulean wrote...
I don't care for Anders, but I had the option to go for Fenris. If one of those two was straight, one of us would have been unhappy at having no choice except the one we don't like. You didn't like Merrill (as a romance), so you went for Isabela. Fair!
And there's me, with the Hetero-Hawke that didn't like either Anders or Fenris.
(Disclaimer: THIS IS A JOKE.)
Just for the record, i was never unhappy with "having to pick Isabela". I didn`t mind one bit that I felt i only had one choice.
Modifié par sarakirrer, 16 février 2013 - 05:36 .
Xilizhra wrote...
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
Plaintiff wrote...
Don't worry, you're correct. Prior to the game's release, I thought his character sonded more interesting (also Anders wasn't confirmed as bisexual until closer to the release date, so as far as I knew Fenris was going to be my only option).Harle Cerulean wrote...
Plaintiff doesn't like Fenris (I believe - I could be wronf)
But when it came time to actually play, his attitude just turned me off completely.
If you didn't take Isabela, then who got possessed by the Desire Demon?Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And I didn`t bring Isabela. Where did you get that from?
Modifié par Plaintiff, 16 février 2013 - 05:37 .
Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And I didn`t bring Isabela. Where did you get that from?
sarakirrer wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
sarakirrer wrote...
Harle Cerulean wrote...
I don't care for Anders, but I had the option to go for Fenris. If one of those two was straight, one of us would have been unhappy at having no choice except the one we don't like. You didn't like Merrill (as a romance), so you went for Isabela. Fair!
And there's me, with the Hetero-Hawke that didn't like either Anders or Fenris.
(Disclaimer: THIS IS A JOKE.)
Just for the record, i was never unhappy with "having to pick Isabela". I didn`t mind one bit that I felt i only had one choice.
Sorry, I didn't mean to make that sound like I was making fun of you! That's actually how I felt--I actually ended up romancing Isabela in my main playthrough as well because I didn't like either of the men, and I felt satisfied with that outcome, too!
ETA: But I wish I could have gone for Varric. Fo' real.
For the first, you're getting me confused with someone else; I just defended the usage of the word. For the second, you were objectively wrong and your perceptions were highly skewed. If I used the wrong word choice, I'll admit to that, but it's not really a matter of opinion; you were wrong.You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
Harle Cerulean wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And I didn`t bring Isabela. Where did you get that from?
Hate to say, but you had to have. Unless you brought neither, of course, because if Isabela isn't there, and Aveline is, the Desire Demon will tempt her, and there is no way to prevent it.
Xilizhra wrote...
For the first, you're getting me confused with someone else; I just defended the usage of the word. For the second, you were objectively wrong and your perceptions were highly skewed. If I used the wrong word choice, I'll admit to that, but it's not really a matter of opinion; you were wrong.You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
Rawgrim wrote...
Harle Cerulean wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I've restrained myself from saying this earlier, but: you goddamned putz.Merrill was a loaded gun all through the game. It was like a 2 year old fickling with dynamite near a fireplace.
Well, she was certainly wrong about it bringing the taint back, we know that much.Assuming that you were only referring to Merrill's own blood magic never harming anyone (which is true if you do discount Marithari's loss at the end of her story arc), we don't really know the outcome of Merrill fixing the Eluvian, yet. Merrill fixed it towards the end of the game, so we haven't seen the consequences of her actions. We could see in DA:I that the Eluvian is completely harmless, or we could see that it really is a dangerous, evil artifact like Marethari thought. I just think it's too early to say whether or not Marethari was right about Merrill and the Eluvian.
That's because you brought Isabela and only one of them can be controlled at once.Aveline doesn`t get mind-controlled, by the way. Didn`t in my playthrough anyway.
You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And I didn`t bring Isabela. Where did you get that from?
Hate to say, but you had to have. Unless you brought neither, of course, because if Isabela isn't there, and Aveline is, the Desire Demon will tempt her, and there is no way to prevent it.
I had Merrill (I think). I know it wasn`t Isabela, because my Hawke was a rogue.
Multiple people can be wrong at the same time, it's hardly a great feat.Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
For the first, you're getting me confused with someone else; I just defended the usage of the word. For the second, you were objectively wrong and your perceptions were highly skewed. If I used the wrong word choice, I'll admit to that, but it's not really a matter of opinion; you were wrong.You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And yet several people agreed with me. They all saw why someone would think Merrill was too young and naive.
Plaintiff wrote...
Speaking of Skyrim, it's pretty damn hilarious that there are three Argonians that you can marry, but only one Redguard.
Modifié par Harle Cerulean, 16 février 2013 - 05:47 .
Plaintiff wrote...
Speaking of Skyrim, it's pretty damn hilarious that there are three Argonians that you can marry, but only one Redguard.
I only play Khajiit in Skyrim (It's just impossible to make a human that I could stand to look at for any length of time). I got bored with the game pretty quick, but if I ever go back to it, I'll have my Khajiit marry an Argonian, and make hideous cat-lizard babies.Harle Cerulean wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
Speaking of Skyrim, it's pretty damn hilarious that there are three Argonians that you can marry, but only one Redguard.
And no Wood Elves! Seriously, wtf. (No Khajiit, either - not even for Khajiit PCs. Beats me.) Also, no male high elves, and only one female high elf.
I'm not sure who decided which NPCs would be marriable, but I'm fairly certain they were drunk when they made the choices.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 16 février 2013 - 05:51 .
Xilizhra wrote...
Multiple people can be wrong at the same time, it's hardly a great feat.Rawgrim wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
For the first, you're getting me confused with someone else; I just defended the usage of the word. For the second, you were objectively wrong and your perceptions were highly skewed. If I used the wrong word choice, I'll admit to that, but it's not really a matter of opinion; you were wrong.You haven`t restrained yourself at all earlier. You have called people bigots for not agreeing with you, and you called me deranged because I thought Merrill was too young for me. Thats usually when you lose a discussion, you know. When you move away from the subject being discussed, and just do personal attacks against the oposition.
And yet several people agreed with me. They all saw why someone would think Merrill was too young and naive.
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