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[dreman9999]

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

Trying to make sense of this nonsense will literally break your brain.

Nonsense? Why they moved it to earth is obvious.So obviousit was bluntly explined in ME2.

[Mathias]

Because the plot demanded so.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 16 février 2013 - 11:03 .

[xMellowhype]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Because the plot demanded so.

This. To all the "make a reaper" posts, why didn't the Reapers move the Citadel to harvest humans on the colony worlds? There's several billion humans outside of Earth.

[FlamingBoy]

because the ending was really bad

seriously no one knows what the bloody hell was going on in the antagonists (and protagonists) heads at the time

[GHNR]

xMellowhype wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Because the plot demanded so.

This. To all the "make a reaper" posts, why didn't the Reapers move the Citadel to harvest humans on the colony worlds? There's several billion humans outside of Earth.

Because harvesting of a population of a planet takes a long time. While yes, their are a signifigant amount of humans outside of Sol, the Reapers wouldn't have allocated a slaughter ship to each one, and moving the Citadel to each one of these potentially remote colonies would take time.

Earth was one of the first planets hit during the Invasion, and has been the focus of the Reapers human harvesting. Therefore, it would make sense that the Citadel would first go there to recieve most of the workable genetic material.

[Jonata]

klarabella wrote...

Jonata wrote...

Earth was the second planet to fall after the annihilation of the Batarian Space, hence the closer plaent with heavy Reaper presence. Resistance on Earth was also going rogue and under the radars so it is possible that the Reapers didn't even though that Anderson's forces could be able to pull off a retaliation or open the way for a huge comeback strike as it happened in Priority: Earth.

I'd love to be able to see into Harbinger thoughs when he saw a Galaxy coming back at him.

Every time someone takes anything in ME this seriously an angel dies.

Probably.

But sometimes I just can't help but think that if everyone just kept this threads as lore-discussing serious threads instead of popularity contests or snarkfests, we could have one hell of a nice forum, full of interesting theories about the ME lore and spot on explanations that could work within the plot of the game.

That would be, however, something so different from the current state of the BSN that I do not even dare to dream about it. 

[The_Other_M]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Because the plot demanded so.

Basically, THIS^^

The sooner people stop trying the make sense of the plotholes, the poorly written 3rd Act, the Crucible, etc. the better off they'll be.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Because it was easier than hauling the Earth to the Citadel?

[Eterna]

It was where the bulk of their forces where, thus it would have the most defense.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Also I don't think the earth would fit through a mass relay.

[MegaSovereign]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also I don't think the earth would fit through a mass relay.

Wouldn't the Earth be inhabitable if it was moved at all?

[KeraWildmane]

adam32867 wrote...

mackan__s wrote...

Because... Anderson was born in London..

Really? 

Twice, in fact.

[dragonslaya]

its explained in the codex... (sarcasm)

how many times have you seen this answer given by people on here.

[StElmo]

GHNR wrote...

I would say probably to pool together all the harvested humans to create another Human-Reaper. As Vendetta says, Earth's Harvest is about to finish.

Yep

Reapers target earth first and therefore have the biggest presence in that system.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The-Biotic-God wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also I don't think the earth would fit through a mass relay.

Wouldn't the Earth be inhabitable if it was moved at all?

Not exactly you mean uninhabitable. Actually if they moved the earth away from the sun a smidge in say 50 million years they could extend the habitability of the earth, but they're not interested in doing that.

I just think that it would require more power than their entire fleet. Well maybe they could move it a bit, but it would be extremely difficult and I think they'd run out of fuel before they got it going in the direction they needed. It would be easier to bring the smaller item, the Citadel, here.

Also it would be less effort than making runs with bodies back and forth to the Citadel for processing.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 17 février 2013 - 07:15 .

[ZLurps]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also it would be less effort than making runs with bodies back and forth to the Citadel for processing.

This keeps coming up, but since they can move stuff between Citadel and whatever location via mass effect tech. what's the point of moving Citadel. It doesn't matter where it is. Only thing that matters is where the other portal(s) is/are located.

[nos_astra]

ZLurps wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also it would be less effort than making runs with bodies back and forth to the Citadel for processing.

This keeps coming up, but since they can move stuff between Citadel and whatever location via mass effect tech. what's the point of moving Citadel. It doesn't matter where it is. Only thing that matters is where the other portal(s) is/are located.

Good point! 

[Jonata]

I know the Human Reaper is very much still a priority for the Reapers in ME3 but I still think they just moved the Citadel where they could protect it better. As I already said a couple of posts ago, Earth was the second planet to fall and the most recent planet "conquered" by the Reaper forces, right at the beginning of the game.

So the bulk of the Reapers army is still there, waiting to complete the harvesting of Earth like they did with Kar'Shan, and it's easier for them to protect the Citadel from Earth instead of moving a massive amount of capital ships into Citadel space.

Modifié par Jonata, 17 février 2013 - 11:29 .

[Seboist]

klarabella wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also it would be less effort than making runs with bodies back and forth to the Citadel for processing.

This keeps coming up, but since they can move stuff between Citadel and whatever location via mass effect tech. what's the point of moving Citadel. It doesn't matter where it is. Only thing that matters is where the other portal(s) is/are located.

Good point! 

Indeed, the Reapers could have used a ground based mini-relay like the Protheans built on Illos to ship the humans.

Moving the citadel to earth is completely nonsensical like the entire "take back earth" plot.

[BiO]

Seboist wrote...

klarabella wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Also it would be less effort than making runs with bodies back and forth to the Citadel for processing.

This keeps coming up, but since they can move stuff between Citadel and whatever location via mass effect tech. what's the point of moving Citadel. It doesn't matter where it is. Only thing that matters is where the other portal(s) is/are located.

Good point! 

Indeed, the Reapers could have used a ground based mini-relay like the Protheans built on Illos to ship the humans.

Moving the citadel to earth is completely nonsensical like the entire "take back earth" plot.

Oh, so let's see which is faster:

Creating an entirely new mass effect relay connected to the Citadel, leaving their forces separated, as they now have to guard two key locations instead of one

OR

Moving the Citadel through a mass effect relay to Earth, gather most Reapers there, and force the Alliend fleet to attack where they are the strongest.

Keep in mind, once that Reaper is completed, they will start obliterating everything in their path, no more harvesting, no more shepherding citizens into safe-zones for easier harvest, no more picking out most-population planets. Then they would have really shown their full capabilities of genocide. Which leaves the allied fleets no choice but to focus all their strenght on stopping them from finishing that damn Reaper.

Modifié par BiO_MaN, 17 février 2013 - 11:59 .

[Atekimagus]

But then one could counter that as soon as they have control of the citadel they have control of the relay network and can shut it down at their leasure.

Actually I am still not sure why they forgot about it......seems that reapers suffer from old age dementia or something.... .

But then, maybe since it is supposed to be the hub of the entire network, by moving it to earth they have maybe robbed themselves of the biggest tactical advantage one could think of.

Argh...no matter in which direction you go, sooner or later you bump your head on something glaringly unlogical....

[Maxster_]

Atekimagus wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I hate to break it to you but space is just mindbogglingly huge and 3-dimensional and there is no such thing as the next target on their invasion route. 

The Reapers could probably fly straight to to the Citadel's home nebula and not meet anyone on the way because the distances are THAT freakin' huge.

Wait....what? What has 3 dimensional space to do with anything? What have huge distances to do with anything?

So you are saying it was poor coincidence that we send appollo 13 to the moon and not pluto because according to your logic those distances are so mindbogglingly huge and 3-dimensional that there is no such thing as a next target?

If there were FTL at that time - there would be no difference.

Well colour me suprised. So, i hate to break it to you, but considering their starting point in this galaxy - mindboogling distances and 3dimensional space notwithstanding - we are lead to believe that earth indeed is the next big target on their list.

Which is nonsense, because Citadel, which controls mass relays - is instant win.

But ignore the distance, just view it from a military point of view. It is generelly not considered a wise move to leave an enemy behind you able to strike at your back, so for them steamrolling everything on their way to the citadel makes sense.
(Well it doesn't if we assume that they didn't forgot about shutting down the relays but then - as you yourself said - it's probably best not to think to hard about it since clearly those parts were written without common sense, military understanding and knowledge of the "the story so far....")

When there is a mass relay network - it doesn't matter, that enemies "left behind". And when you can turn off that network - no other target is valuable compared to that.
When reapers don't need supplies, and have no base(because of that) - there is no such thing as "behind".

[ZLurps]

[quote]BiO_MaN wrote...

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Oh, so let's see which is faster:

Creating an entirely new mass effect relay connected to the Citadel, leaving their forces separated, as they now have to guard two key locations instead of one

OR

Moving the Citadel through a mass effect relay to Earth, gather most Reapers there, and force the Alliend fleet to attack where they are the strongest.

Keep in mind, once that Reaper is completed, they will start obliterating everything in their path, no more harvesting, no more shepherding citizens into safe-zones for easier harvest, no more picking out most-population planets. Then they would have really shown their full capabilities of genocide. Which leaves the allied fleets no choice but to focus all their strenght on stopping them from finishing that damn Reaper.

[/quote]

What is that beam in London if not miniature relay? There isn't other technology than mass effect tech established in the series, so it's already there.

What comes to strategy, leave the Citadel in Widow, shut down Widow relay, establish link to Earth and then shut down Sol system relay and leave primitives trying to figure out what now.

[The Night Mammoth]

BiO_MaN wrote...

Oh, so let's see which is faster:

Creating an entirely new mass effect relay connected to the Citadel, leaving their forces separated, as they now have to guard two key locations instead of one

OR

Moving the Citadel through a mass effect relay to Earth, gather most Reapers there, and force the Alliend fleet to attack where they are the strongest.

Keep in mind, once that Reaper is completed, they will start obliterating everything in their path, no more harvesting, no more shepherding citizens into safe-zones for easier harvest, no more picking out most-population planets. Then they would have really shown their full capabilities of genocide. Which leaves the allied fleets no choice but to focus all their strenght on stopping them from finishing that damn Reaper.

Neither. Moving humans to the Citadel serves no immediate purpose. Consolidating power around the hub of the Relay network is the primary objective, it is better served by never moving the Citadel at all, closing it up, so allowing no access, and forcing the galaxy into a futile space battle. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 17 février 2013 - 06:57 .