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Is the Reegar seriously that strong a gun???


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Simba501 wrote...

Haven't used it yet, but it actually sounds pretty balanced to me. Like the Harrier: powerful, but with sufficient drawbacks.


lol

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I've seen plenty use it, and melt things to gooey bits with it. And back in the day of the Flamer/Reegar glitch, you could kill just about anything in half a second.

Personally, I have never liked it, but I'm weird like that.

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Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.

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Feneckus wrote...

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Also, its accuracy can be modded so I can hit targets at a further distance.


You're talking about four classes in the game out of ? How many ? 40+ ?


Wait a second, using accuracy increasing mods/powers increases the weapons range?

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It's OP in the right hands. But I have very rarely seen a random truly dominate with it. I don't think your average player knows about the Warp/Incendiary/Valkyrie combo.

Truthfully, I rarely see anyone use it at all, and I PUG 95% of the time.

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heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 14 février 2013 - 02:46 .


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Kalas321 wrote...

I actually want to see someone use this gun and do well, without using the kroguard. The only time I've ever seen it used is in xcal's and sy7ar's videos.


feel free to add me and I'll show you.

On topic: A reegar discussion will bring in the same people blabbering the same talking points.

The ammonder post about "retarded/crap players" using the reegar made me lol though.

so unaware

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Zjarcal wrote...

PronozaSoldier wrote...

The only case where the Reegar is OP is on a Huntress with fully specced Warp and incendiary ammo.


Kroguard says hi.

Kroguard+ Reegar isn't OP... the fact that it's EZ mode vs Geth doesn't mean much which btw is EZ mode not because of the Reegar but because of stagger immunity, extremely high amount of shields, barrier DR and the fact that all his shields can be fully restored with one charge.

Pretty much all kits in the game can outscore a Reegar wielding Kroguard if the player has any idea what he's doing.

Original Stikman wrote...

PronozaSoldier wrote...

Let's just say that it's not the best. Half your shots miss for some reason, it has a small clip capacity and reserve ammo, it's beam has a very short range and it's not to good against armor without AP/incendiary ammo.

It is however ridiculously easy to use (no recoil, just hold down trigger and melt things) compared to it's damage output unlike say the Saber or Javelin which deal tons of damage but are more difficult to use than other guns.

The only case where the Reegar is OP is on a Huntress with fully specced Warp and incendiary ammo.


yeah... thats not true...

if this were the case, then any character with warp + Incendiary + reegar would be OP

That's true but you forgot that the Huntress has the advantage of cloacking and getting close to bosses without having your ass handed to you, which can't be said about any other Warp wielding adept or sentinel.

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I used the reegar on a while on my FQE for that rp feel of having a quarian weapon. I've happily switched back to my hurricane. On big maps, and on laggy games I really dont want to me totting a reegar about on a squishy character trying to close the distance with big nasties

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Original Stikman wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

I actually want to see someone use this gun and do well, without using the kroguard. The only time I've ever seen it used is in xcal's and sy7ar's videos.


feel free to add me and I'll show you.

On topic: A reegar discussion will bring in the same people blabbering the same talking points.

The ammonder post about "retarded/crap players" using the reegar made me lol though.

so unaware

gt in sig

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Simba501 wrote...

Haven't used it yet, but it actually sounds pretty balanced to me. Like the Harrier: powerful, but with sufficient drawbacks.


Its like 4/8 harriers firing at once.

Have.... You seen ammoboxes?

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?



All infiltrators except shadow.  Majority of the grenadiers.  High dps soldiers.  Paladin comes to mind.

I mean really?  Reegar kroguard is the unstoppable force of ME3?  

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No. But it's unbalanced when it comes to weapons for Vanguards. No weapon is even close to the Reegar. It's lighter than GPS, Graal, Claymore and the Raider. You don't have to worry about reloading or missing at all. It fires much faster than any of the lighter guns like the Wraith, Talon or Piranha.

BioWare said they want to balance weapons/powers when they hurt the variety in this game. As in you have to use this weapon to maximize your DPS with a Vanguard. And imo, the Reegar makes any other gun for Vanguards obsolete.

That's just my 2 cents and please don't get me wrong, i don't want it nerfed.

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Annomander wrote...

BurningLiquor wrote...

Inb4Annomander


I'm hardly the only one who believes the reegar should be adjusted.

I proposed nerfing its base damage by 50% and boosting its shield/barrier modifier from 1.5 to 3.0.

That keeps its damage roughly the same but ruins its DPS versus armour. And make it so it cannot benefit from piercing / weakening.

But, as usual, a whole load of really terrible players will come in here, defending their n00b gun and telling me that the reetard carbine is a balanced gun. 

The reegar is only a balanced gun if you are terrible at this game. And even terrible players get a lot of mileage out of their beloved reegar crutchbine.

if the gun is so overpowered/broken why isnt everyone using it on every kit?


I thought scrubs liked easy mode weapons.

edit:Ill pick my harrier 10 with ap4 every time except on the kroguard.

Modifié par Kalas321, 14 février 2013 - 03:19 .


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Kalas321 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

I actually want to see someone use this gun and do well, without using the kroguard. The only time I've ever seen it used is in xcal's and sy7ar's videos.


feel free to add me and I'll show you.

On topic: A reegar discussion will bring in the same people blabbering the same talking points.

The ammonder post about "retarded/crap players" using the reegar made me lol though.

so unaware

gt in sig


wont be on til sunday :(

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Pretty much anyone who is good enough to get in close without dying all the time is good enough to not need that much damage. I hate it personally. Not because I think it's OP. I just hate the sound it makes.

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manbearpig654 wrote...

Pretty much anyone who is good enough to get in close without dying all the time is good enough to not need that much damage. I hate it personally. Not because I think it's OP. I just hate the sound it makes.


I like this manbearpig. It(?) understands!

No true Krogan would ever use this piddly watergun-sounding weapon.

Needs more clayMOAR.

In fact, we should all just use the clayMOAR instead and call it a day.

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heybigmoney wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?



All infiltrators except shadow.  Majority of the grenadiers.  High dps soldiers.  Paladin comes to mind.

I mean really?  Reegar kroguard is the unstoppable force of ME3?  



Show me numbers, or I'll know you're pulling it out of someplace dark.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?



All infiltrators except shadow.  Majority of the grenadiers.  High dps soldiers.  Paladin comes to mind.

I mean really?  Reegar kroguard is the unstoppable force of ME3?  



Show me numbers, or I'll know you're pulling it out of someplace dark.



Oh please.  This is a completely disingenuous argument and you know it.  Reegar kroguard can't slay half as efficiently as a TGI harrier even tho the dps numbers say otherwise.

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Happy Shepard wrote...

And imo, the Reegar makes any other gun for Vanguards obsolete.

That's just my 2 cents and please don't get me wrong, i don't want it nerfed.


That's not true. Many vanguards are better off with weapons without a firing delay. 

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heybigmoney wrote...

Reegar kroguard can't slay half as efficiently as a TGI harrier even tho the dps numbers say otherwise.


How come the solo speedrun record is held by a Reeguard Kroguard then ?

Stentron didn't even come that close with his Talon GI.

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heybigmoney wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?



All infiltrators except shadow.  Majority of the grenadiers.  High dps soldiers.  Paladin comes to mind.

I mean really?  Reegar kroguard is the unstoppable force of ME3?  



Show me numbers, or I'll know you're pulling it out of someplace dark.



Oh please.  This is a completely disingenuous argument and you know it.  Reegar kroguard can't slay half as efficiently as a TGI harrier even tho the dps numbers say otherwise.


I don't know this, and you haven't exactly backed up your claims with evidence.   How many solo speedruns were done with the Harrier TGI?

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 14 février 2013 - 03:41 .


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ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Wow, the group think mob mentality is strong in this thread.

Sure, its too strong if your best class is the reegar kroguard and you are incapable of using the 10+ classes with ranged options that can easily outdamage him.


What classes are those?


All infiltrators except shadow.  Majority of the grenadiers.  High dps soldiers.  Paladin comes to mind.

I mean really?  Reegar kroguard is the unstoppable force of ME3?  


Show me numbers, or I'll know you're pulling it out of someplace dark.


Well, infs have TC, so that's a given.  And the Valk has AF + Warp.  Kroguard gets a 25% bonus from BC, so it's not bad.

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Lots of people die with reegar in places that make reviving difficult.
Theoretical dps != actual dps