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[HolyAvenger]

Not you specifically but most of the thread definitely.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Bolo Xia wrote...

people keep saying they would be happy to be in a lobby with someone with extra consumables, because it would be a good thing or help them win.

then why were you guys not happy when you entered into a lobby with a cheat or a pre-nerf krysae user?
it would be a good thing right, because it would help you win, so how is a dude with extra consumables any different?

is that like, well if people only cheated or use the pre-nerf krysae just a little, like once per round then it would be ok?

im really curious why that argument is being made, because right when you get down to it, it makes no sense.

i get how it would destroy balance if everyone had 10 of whatever, but that argument up there just doesnt hold water.

You make a good point, but the extra missile is a one time thing, the Krysae was for 10 waves. It's just a matter of proportion. Pre-nerf Krysae lobby weren't fun because if you didn't have one, you would do squat for 10 waves. It was the good old "I win weapon", like the stim packs before they got nerfed.

Having a dude with extra consumables in your lobby, with only one of which affecting the whole team, is a different story.

[krknight]

the people who played this game early and a lot were rewarded for it. end of story.

[ufc345]

Comparing a Exploit that gives you unlimited rockets to something that gives a legit extra Rocket that is limited and only a few people have is just pointless

Heck I don't even get why this is being brought up a year after the fact

Modifié par ufc345, 15 février 2013 - 11:02 .

[TriniWarlord]

FateNeverEnds wrote...
Also, I've never gotten my hands on level IV consumables. I heard the RNG Store only drops them once you have your URs maxed. If that's true how can we compete cooperate in equal conditions with those who not only have Warp Ammo and Cyclonic IV, but have maxed URs? No contest here.

Oh how I've prayed and wished so so much that this were true
... alas u are incorrect 

[Bolo Xia]

i think, most people are arguing from a stance about absolutes.
^if that even makes sense.

example:
basically they are argueing that even if 1 advantage is given that it is still an advantage, reguardless if only 1 dude has it.

i think that is what the whole backbone of the issue is really.

i pretty much agree with what Bryan was saying in his post on page 9, so im not really argueing for either side atm.

just seems like a bad argument to use is all im sayin, reguardless of how super ultra rare it would be to get one of those players in the lobby.

i should go.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Bolo Xia wrote...
just seems like a bad argument to use is all im sayin, reguardless of how super ultra rare it would be to get one of those players in the lobby.

Yep, that's it. I'll go too and enjoy my coffee

[HolyAvenger]

_only1biggs_ wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

....If you want to talk about the "legitimacy" of a solo, who cares, get a life.

i'm sorry, but didn't i get called out earlier in the thread for suggesting someone may be stupid? i was told to stop insulting people. telling someone to "get a life" is clearly more of an insult than saying "you look stupid". this place amazes me

 I don't recall calling you out about anything.

[HolyAvenger]

_only1biggs_ wrote...

oh, no no, i didn't mean you specifically.

just curious as to why it's ok for others to call me out for one thing and not you for another, considering what you said was worse. i had 2 or 3 jump down my throat, along with a mod. who draws the line around hear? hence: this place amazes me

Calling someone stupid is worse than telling them to get a life.

As for getting jumped on...well I wrote that not very long ago, so maybe someone will tell me about it later. I stand by my statement though

[HolyAvenger]

_only1biggs_ wrote...


well, i didn't call someone stupid, i suggested it, tongue in cheek. telling someone to get a life is surely worse as you're making an assumption, plus it's prejudice.

...I hope this thread gets locked, its a mess now.

[Domnuxx]

HolyAvenger wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...


well, i didn't call someone stupid, i suggested it, tongue in cheek. telling someone to get a life is surely worse as you're making an assumption, plus it's prejudice.

...I hope this thread gets locked, its a mess now.

I'm more amazed it survived this long.

[Koenig888]

Dracian wrote...

There are so much things to fix in this game that are far more important than having 10/10/10/10 or 5/6/6/5 for everyone : PS3 freezing against Collectors, Scion double damage, problems with Shields/Health Gate, connection issues, credits/xp disappearing after each match.

Scion double damage has been fixed long ago.

[Grzlar]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Alright to make a farther wiping statement

The extended caps were present from March 6 (launch day) until March 27th (the day we fixed it server side).

The amount of users that were affected were small, it is especially small now. I for the record do have above the cap, I have 6 thermal clips.

At the time (nearly a year ago), we decided that those who received the packs with extended capacities would not have them taken away. That was the decision we made, and it is one that largely no one complained about until this month, I think this might fall under a statute of limitations.

Furthermore there is plenty of things that have been done that players can say benefited the past players more than now and the players now etc.

Lets look, at launch there was no such thing as PSPs, no such thing as JEP, no such thing as Reserves/Arsenal. Character cards were not cap'd, level IV consumables didn't exist etc.

Lets say that less than 1% of the users currently playing have extended capacities, do you really want them dictating how the game is played? We have heard a lot of people argue against exactly that.

Another option is to take it away from those that have it currently, which I dont know about you guys but if suddenly after 11 months my stuff was taken away just because of "popular opinion". I would be fairly upset.

Game landscapes change over time.

1) You took the right decision.

2) Excuse me but that is not an option, that would be unfair and shame for Bioware's name.
If i was one of those people-customers i would never buy a Bioware's product again.
What we are talking about people? Try to enjoy the game and stop whinning... 

[ryanshowseason3]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

N172 wrote...

So, if BW or EA does something wrong and I (and noone else) receive a Valiant XI from my next commendation pack because of that, then i am allowed to keep it because i am just 1 player and did not do anything wrong?

If not, why is it different from those additional capacity upgrades?

More than likely, yes

We have made mistakes and let people keep them. As long as there is not obsence abuse of the system, we typically dont take things away.

I would think this would be a different kind of situation because it was never intended for anyone to ever get a weapon beyond X.

With the consumable caps BW and EA changed their minds early in the game before a rampant population had gotten to the capacity increases.

They decided not to take away from people who had very likely paid real money to get those bonuses, and with good reason. You'd be especially mad if you paid real money only to have your bonuses taken by BW in the interest of having an unfair advantage in a co op game.

[TheThirdRace]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

N172 wrote...

So, if BW or EA does something wrong and I (and noone else) receive a Valiant XI from my next commendation pack because of that, then i am allowed to keep it because i am just 1 player and did not do anything wrong?

If not, why is it different from those additional capacity upgrades?

More than likely, yes

We have made mistakes and let people keep them. As long as there is not obsence abuse of the system, we typically dont take things away.

With this line of thinking, it would be right to say you're allowed to keep a 6/6/6/6/6 build if you're the only one having it... Or that if the game glitch and you get 10M credit for the match it's ok because it only happened to you.

I understand that people don't like to get their things taken away, but they are very well aware they are over the cap. They are also very aware they get an advantage over other players each and every game today, tomorrow, the day after that, the day after that and so on.

My opinion is that you should rectify this because it's not fair for the rest of us. I would give them a commendation pack or two for their troubles, but they don't deserve to get a higher limit just because they benefit from a glitch that lasted less than a month

Modifié par TheThirdRace, 15 février 2013 - 02:54 .

[Djarknaein]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

The players who played at the beginning technically did not get an unfair advantage, every player had the capability to receive the same benefits.

This is a co-op game, there is no unfair advantage to these people, I would think you would more likely want these people on your team.

The second part of your post can be said about every exploiter.

As for the first part. Granted that at the time no-one had an unfair advantage but now they do.

If they don't have an unfair advantage now why not let everyone have that same amount why was it change?

[Saints]

Bravo. 22 hours.

[JLoco11]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Alright to make a farther wiping statement

The extended caps were present from March 6 (launch day) until March 27th (the day we fixed it server side).

The amount of users that were affected were small, it is especially small now. I for the record do have above the cap, I have 6 thermal clips.

At the time (nearly a year ago), we decided that those who received the packs with extended capacities would not have them taken away. That was the decision we made, and it is one that largely no one complained about until this month, I think this might fall under a statute of limitations.

Furthermore there is plenty of things that have been done that players can say benefited the past players more than now and the players now etc.

Lets look, at launch there was no such thing as PSPs, no such thing as JEP, no such thing as Reserves/Arsenal. Character cards were not cap'd, level IV consumables didn't exist etc.

Lets say that less than 1% of the users currently playing have extended capacities, do you really want them dictating how the game is played? We have heard a lot of people argue against exactly that.

Another option is to take it away from those that have it currently, which I dont know about you guys but if suddenly after 11 months my stuff was taken away just because of "popular opinion". I would be fairly upset.

Game landscapes change over time.

The part about 11 months later people complaining is completely not true... it just happens THIS thread managed to get more views than all the other threads.

One thread in the past that received quite a bit of attention was when the Medigel increase to 6 was announced for a weekend event and people thought we were going to receive upgrades to a 10 capacity.  That was the first time a majority of users heard that some people had more than 5.

But there was no Bioware response to that thread.

There have been multiple threads, however this is the first a Bioware employee seemed to reply giving that blue BIOWARE reference to it where people flocked to it. 

Regardless of how long ago something occurred, you're still supporting the game right?  You fixed the rocket glitch 11 months later, rumors of more content with Krogan HammerMaster pics have teased us, balances changes occur every week, and promotional weapon challenges are still being released.

So length of time shouldn't be the sole determining factor of whether something is addressed, especially since this isn't the first time it was brought up... it's just the first time Bioware is acknowledging it being brought up

[Ryquist]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Lance Armstrong had extra consumables.

[Dracian]

saints 944 wrote...

Bravo. 22 hours.

I am amazed how much time this thread has survived.

BTW, 1 page every 1 hour, 41 minutes and 30 seconds (give or take a few more or less).

Not bad.

[Saints]

Dracian wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Bravo. 22 hours.

I am amazed how much time this thread has survived.

BTW, 1 page every 1 hour, 41 minutes and 30 seconds (give or take a few more or less).

Not bad.

So far from what I'v read it's mostly been about "whats fair", "the lottery", and "insulting comments" People do like to debate I agree but 22 hours would of shown by now someone is wrong or nothing will be done, so get over it.

Modifié par saints 944, 15 février 2013 - 03:19 .

[Kinom001]

Geez, people are still whining about other peoples consumables?

Unbuh-friggin-lievable.

This thread has gone so far off the rails I can't see where it's even remotely constructive any longer.