Cyonan wrote...
jm2207 wrote...
I have no idea how often I run into players with 10. They might only use 5, but the fact that they have 5 in reserve almost certainly affects their gameplay.
It is not theoretically unfair because it exists and IS unfair.
What do I want them to do? Either one. Or admit it's unfair.
It's theoretical because you don't even know if you've played with a player who had 10 missiles. You're complaining on the off chance that you might play with one, and that would be unfair to you.
They aren't going to trivialize the game by giving us 13 missiles each, and it's just as unfair to take away those missles from the people who got them. Admitting it's unfair wouldn't actually do anything unless they took some kind of action around it.
Bolo Xia wrote...
the same could be said about cheaters, i have only ran into 2 cheaters throughout my entire play time.
so then we shouldnt worry about cheaters either i suppose or at least i shouldnt then?
true it is such a small amount of people with extra stuff, but fair is fair.
btw if there was only 10 people that knew how to do a missile glitch or any other glitch that is considered cheating, is it ok then that they "get away with it?".
especially for argument sake that if bans are being handed out for other cheats regularly.
i know that is kind of a stretch argument there, but it is the principle of the matter at hand.
also, dont confuse my counter arguments with me being hostile or a direct attack, not accusing you of thinking so either.
just sayin, since im strongly arguing the other side of the topic.
plus the line has to be drawn somewhere on the "fairness" debate, as to why is it ok for 10 people to get or have something but the rest are not allowed to have the same thing, especially when we all start on the same playing field.
add: ignore my grammar errors, i have already seen a few flawed words in there that i used, i dont proof read and working on my 1st cup of coffee still when i 1st entered this landmine thread
As you said it's a stretch of an argument. Once you start comparing to cheaters the argument begins to fall apart =P
If the missile glitch was only known by 10 people it would be a non issue since we'd most likely not even know about it.
No matter what they do it either A. wont be fair to somebody or B. will trivialize the game in this case. It's equally unfair to take away those 5 extra missiles from the people who played a lot early on to get them, and giving everybody 10 missiles will make the game way too easy for groups using their missiles.
Fixing the missile glitch didn't take anything away from anybody, except the ability to cheat =P
good answer's, i dont see the argument falling apart, more like me "splitting hairs" tho.
but also raises the question, is it better to be fair to the whole group or be fair to the few?
in other words, setting those few back to make it fair to everyone else.
in this situation, i usually use the extreme human sacrafice as the example:
is it better that we sacrafice 10 people to save 1000 or should everyone suffer because of those 10 people?
maybe even a 3rd option there, as to ignore it because, its not really a life and death issue.
granted, this is a game and nobody is actually being sacraficed or suffering, but the fair and unfair factor still remains.
i agree, game balance in this situation is most likely the major concern for most parties and would be broken or trivilized if everyone had that many consumables.
so most likely, nothing will change after this debate is burried in the hoard of threads.
plus the only way we can change anything in this debate is via our "Chief/Judge/Executioner" or also know as the "Bioware Team".
which case they seem to feel strongly that those few people are not an issue, after all we can only present our cases and hope for the best.
case 1: game balance for the whole is more important than the few, without punishing those who have legitly obtained an advantage.
case 2: fairness should not be overlooked and should not have a blurred line between individual's and should have to play by the same rules as everyone else, reguardles of how legit something was obtained since it is no longer obtainable.
im sure there are more case's out there, but these 2 seems the most relevant to this topic and both cases have plenty of merit IMO.
seems like case 2 is going to lose again tho, providing BW's stance on the issue.
anyway, thats the best i got
also, a most enjoyable debate about something simple and complicated at the same time.
maybe someday we will know and understand the answer to all of life's morality questions, all the way down to an unimportant non-life threatening issue in a video game.
cheers
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